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Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 16:40
by brilo33
peter barlow wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:37
brilo33 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:08
peter barlow wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:06
From clips of Plant does he still have that cut from the presser under his eye?
they reckon it could of hinderd his sparing
Not a good omen really for Plant! Seems like a decent guy though
i agree peter i like plant too ,but i think his amontions are showing at that show down , he might blow his tank in 3 , and with that eye there not going to saying anything cause they dont want the fight to be stopped
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 16:42
by Thomastearns
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:26
peter barlow wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:05
brilo33 wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 15:45
is that mexican lamb chops , he is and he aint ,plant deserves his shot, he can box he has great hands and shot selection yes he is up against ,i think he will come to win and if he does fair play to the man unlike smith
Canelo prefers Mexican beef
mexican lamb chops may give you more power
Plant is going to give boxings PED poster boy an easier time inside the ring than outside.
Credit to Plant for raising Canelo's drugs issue.
He more or less earned his purse then and there.
Now it's time for Caleb to cash in on an already accomplished career.
A points defeat may well be a moral victory for Plant.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 16:55
by brilo33
Thomastearns wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:42
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:26
peter barlow wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:05
Canelo prefers Mexican beef
mexican lamb chops may give you more power
Plant is going to give boxings PED poster boy an easier time inside the ring than outside.
Credit to Plant for raising Canelo's drugs issue.
He more or less earned his purse then and there.
Now it's time for Caleb to cash in on an already accomplished career.
A points defeat may well be a moral victory for Plant.
all jokes aside i dont think there is many clean fighters , maybe no fault of there own
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 17:22
by ironbeard
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:29
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:20
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 14:34
Nope. Plant is too soft for Canelo.
If Plant catches Canelo with that picture perfect hook a few times early the Mexican will feel it and likely make adjustments that may leave the door open for the American to win enough rounds to get an objective decision.
A lot must go right for Caleb to have a chance, but the odds are too long last I looked.
Canelo ate well GGG's heavy hands. Plant is featherfisted for Canelo's iron beard.
Plant’s left hook comes from outside the radar.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 17:33
by KiwiRider
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:22
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:29
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:20
If Plant catches Canelo with that picture perfect hook a few times early the Mexican will feel it and likely make adjustments that may leave the door open for the American to win enough rounds to get an objective decision.
A lot must go right for Caleb to have a chance, but the odds are too long last I looked.
Canelo ate well GGG's heavy hands. Plant is featherfisted for Canelo's iron beard.
Plant’s left hook comes from outside the radar.
Beardie,
Reality check- Plant has a 57% KO rate against pretty lowly opposition, Canelo has been up against some pretty fierce punchers and no one has stopped him in nearly 60 fights...
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 17:39
by ironbeard
KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:33
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:22
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:29
Canelo ate well GGG's heavy hands. Plant is featherfisted for Canelo's iron beard.
Plant’s left hook comes from outside the radar.
Beardie,
Reality check- Plant has a 57% KO rate against pretty lowly opposition, Canelo has been up against some pretty fierce punchers and no one has stopped him in nearly 60 fights...
Plant doesn’t have to stop Canelo and I do not believe that he can. He absolutely MUST give him pause as he stalks. Caleb has that potential if he lands that left hook perfectly a few times early.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 19:23
by bobcatbox
Solid analogy except that Lambs die in the slaughter and Plant is making Canelottery money.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 19:31
by KiwiRider
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:39
KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:33
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:22
Plant’s left hook comes from outside the radar.
Beardie,
Reality check- Plant has a 57% KO rate against pretty lowly opposition, Canelo has been up against some pretty fierce punchers and no one has stopped him in nearly 60 fights...
Plant doesn’t have to stop Canelo and I do not believe that he can. He absolutely MUST give him pause as he stalks. Caleb has that potential if he lands that left hook perfectly a few times early.
I do appreciate your optimistic outlook.
And I hope your right, because even though I don't have a favourite, I do like close fights.
It's just that I've seen GGG and Kov land their right hand flush on him.
All it seemed to do was make him angry.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 19:37
by Boxerbeetle
‘Fully pumped’ is certainly the perfect description for Canelo. He might actually surpass AJ for PED intake, which is impressive in its own right.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 19:56
by brilo33
KiwiRider wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:33
ironbeard wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 17:22
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 16:29
Canelo ate well GGG's heavy hands. Plant is featherfisted for Canelo's iron beard.
Plant’s left hook comes from outside the radar.
Beardie,
Reality check- Plant has a 57% KO rate against pretty lowly opposition, Canelo has been up against some pretty fierce punchers and no one has stopped him in nearly 60 fights...
totally agree that is it in a nut shell
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 05:11
by apollo creed
bobcatbox wrote: ↑04 Nov 2021, 19:23
Solid analogy except that Lambs die in the slaughter and Plant is making Canelottery money.
We just talkin, Plant must be very happy that Canelo is giving him this big payday. Its just a "paper-title-fight" imo.
Benavidez, Beterbiev and Bivol - the '3 B's' could be legit fights for Canelo like GGG was.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 05:26
by apollo creed
Canelo is built like a fu.kin m1 abrams tank. Although he is not a big dude, he has a stocky-strong body.
No matter what "beef" he's "eating" the dude is very focused, dedicated and disciplined about his work. Also he is generating a lot of money and he puts food to the table for many people especially on pandemy.
Psychological, Canelo is a very strong and healthy fighter.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 05:28
by candyslim
I agree with the thread title and I would do even without the potential for cuts. Maybe I should STF up because if I'm being honest I don't know a great deal about Plant. I know about Canelo though.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 05:32
by apollo creed
I feel pity for Plant but also I know he's gonna be rich.
I hope he is gonna be ok, after the fight.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 05:35
by DrDuke
I'm not that pessimistic about Plant. I don't expect him to win, but I predict him to look at least better than Callum Smith and BJS.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 06:36
by Enlightened-One
The Canelo-Plant bout makes me laugh!
It’s being talked about like a stereotypical Filip Hrgovic mismatch!
Everyone is quite rightly expecting the American to lose, with the only discussion point about whether he’ll fare slightly better or worse than Billy Joe Saunders.
It’s kind of incredible when you really think about it, because Caleb Plant is rated 2nd by TBRB, 3rd by The RING and 3rd by ESPN at 168lbs.
The American is a huge athletic 168lb-er in his physical prime, skilful, unbeaten as a pro, hasn’t tasted defeat in boxing for 8½ years, emerged victorious in four world title fights and has also defeated two world champions.
But despite all this, the vast majority of people (including myself) feel he has literally no chance of beating Canelo.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 07:42
by Bandog
It will be interesting. No one has gotten in the head of Canelo like Plant has. It may work in Plant's favor or bring out the beast in Canelo. Regardless, I expect a great fight for 7-8 rounds, with Plant in the lead, then we'll see what both are made of.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 08:32
by tiny_acres
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 06:36
The Canelo-Plant bout makes me laugh!
It’s being talked about like a stereotypical Filip Hrgovic mismatch!
Everyone is quite rightly expecting the American to lose, with the only discussion point about whether he’ll fare slightly better or worse than Billy Joe Saunders.
It’s kind of incredible when you really think about it, because Caleb Plant is rated 2nd by TBRB, 3rd by The RING and 3rd by ESPN at 168lbs.
The American is a huge athletic 168lb-er in his physical prime, skilful, unbeaten as a pro, hasn’t tasted defeat in boxing for 8½ years, emerged victorious in four world title fights and has also defeated two world champions.
But despite all this, the vast majority of people (including myself) feel he has literally no chance of beating Canelo.
You talk so highly of Plant and his resume but take a dump on Crawford's resume. Even though Crawford's resume is better.
Double standards much????
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 09:22
by Enlightened-One
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 08:32You talk so highly of Plant and his resume but take a dump on Crawford's resume. Even though Crawford's resume is better.
Context is key, don’t you agree?
I assume you didn’t read my prediction of the Canelo-Plant bout?
If not, then you probably should, because it renders you claim as being ludicrous!
People are talking about the Canelo-Plant bout as if it’s a Filip Hrgovic-style mismatch, even though the American clearly isn’t a journeyman (hence the reason why I listed his credentials).
I’ve never claimed that Plant’s resume is better than Crawford’s, but apparently you feel I have?
According to my browser, there are 391 pages of threads on the ‘Current Scene’ board, dating back to 2014, with there being 45 threads per page.
Therefore, you could go through all 17,595 threads and you would never find a single post of mine claiming Caleb Plant’s resume is superior than Terence Crawford’s.
In fact, you will never find a single post of mine claiming that Caleb Plant possesses an impressive resume.
I’ve actually been criticised for my harsh evaluation of the American super-middleweight.
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 08:32Double standards much????
I think you need to learn what that phrase means before using it.
I look forward to your reply. And I expect you to respond with an insult, because you can’t prove me wrong and you almost certainly won’t apologise.
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 09:35
by tiny_acres
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 09:22
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 08:32You talk so highly of Plant and his resume but take a dump on Crawford's resume. Even though Crawford's resume is better.
Context is key, don’t you agree?
I assume you didn’t read my prediction of the Canelo-Plant bout?
If not, then you probably should, because it renders you claim as being ludicrous!
People are talking about the Canelo-Plant bout as if it’s a Filip Hrgovic-style mismatch, even though the American clearly isn’t a journeyman (hence the reason why I listed his credentials).
I’ve never claimed that Plant’s resume is better than Crawford’s, but apparently you feel I have?
According to my browser, there are 391 pages of threads on the ‘Current Scene’ board, dating back to 2014, with there being 45 threads per page.
Therefore, you could go through all 17,595 threads and you would never find a single post of mine claiming Caleb Plant’s resume is superior than Terence Crawford’s.
In fact, you will never find a single post of mine claiming that Caleb Plant possesses an impressive resume.
I’ve actually been criticised for my harsh evaluation of the American super-middleweight.
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 08:32Double standards much????
I think you need to learn what that phrase means before using it.
I look forward to your reply. And I expect you to respond with an insult, because you can’t prove me wrong and you almost certainly won’t apologise.
I have no need to apologize.
I stand by my statement
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 10:03
by Enlightened-One
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 09:35
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 09:22
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 08:32You talk so highly of Plant and his resume but take a dump on Crawford's resume. Even though Crawford's resume is better.
Context is key, don’t you agree?
I assume you didn’t read my prediction of the Canelo-Plant bout?
If not, then you probably should, because it renders you claim as being ludicrous!
People are talking about the Canelo-Plant bout as if it’s a Filip Hrgovic-style mismatch, even though the American clearly isn’t a journeyman (hence the reason why I listed his credentials).
I’ve never claimed that Plant’s resume is better than Crawford’s, but apparently you feel I have?
According to my browser, there are 391 pages of threads on the ‘Current Scene’ board, dating back to 2014, with there being 45 threads per page.
Therefore, you could go through all 17,595 threads and you would never find a single post of mine claiming Caleb Plant’s resume is superior than Terence Crawford’s.
In fact, you will never find a single post of mine claiming that Caleb Plant possesses an impressive resume.
I’ve actually been criticised for my harsh evaluation of the American super-middleweight.
tiny_acres wrote: ↑05 Nov 2021, 08:32Double standards much????
I think you need to learn what that phrase means before using it.
I look forward to your reply. And I expect you to respond with an insult, because you can’t prove me wrong and you almost certainly won’t apologise.
I have no need to apologize.
I stand by my statement
I guess you believe your dreams and feelings are far more important than reality.
Good for you kid!
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 10:05
by The Gratest
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 10:12
by oogiebe
truly
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 15:26
by apollo creed
Re: Realistically I think Plant is like a lamb to the slaughter, Plant gets cut to easy
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 20:45
by jezzamundo
Maybe Plant's best strategy is to fight like it's a 6 round fight, bank early rounds and go in to clinch like a billy goat, hoping for an 'accidental' headclash that sees the fight go to the scorecards for a technical decision.
