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Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 07:15**

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 06:56
Bandog wrote: ↑30 Nov 2021, 22:47 To the ignorant that don't know: Liam Williams was a mandatory last April. Name one champion, major belt holder, that has 2 (two) mandatories ordered within a one year period. Any major beltholder....I'll wait, and stand corrected when I see it.
Refer to the timeline detailed within this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=251081&p=5663133#p5663133

That's some sort of a useless thread, as that stuff can be discussed here. No one on earth would create that thread or the topics like 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight', unless someone is sexually attracted towards Andrade.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 07:23**

DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:15
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 06:56
Bandog wrote: ↑30 Nov 2021, 22:47 To the ignorant that don't know: Liam Williams was a mandatory last April. Name one champion, major belt holder, that has 2 (two) mandatories ordered within a one year period. Any major beltholder....I'll wait, and stand corrected when I see it.
Refer to the timeline detailed within this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=251081&p=5663133#p5663133
That's some sort of a useless thread, as that stuff can be discussed here. No one on earth would create that thread or the topics like 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight', unless someone is sexually attracted towards Andrade.

I've never created threads about 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight'.

The dates and timeline detailed within this thread are accurate and also illustrate Andrade's attempt to duck Alimkhanuly:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=251081&p=5663133#p5663133

You're trying to undermine the arguer via fictitious and facetious claims, because you’re embarrassed about the fact you can’t undermine my argument, since even you’re not stupid enough to pretend that real-world historical events actually happened!

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 07:27**

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:23
DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:15
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 06:56
Refer to the timeline detailed within this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=251081&p=5663133#p5663133
That's some sort of a useless thread, as that stuff can be discussed here. No one on earth would create that thread or the topics like 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight', unless someone is sexually attracted towards Andrade.
I've never created threads about 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight'.

The dates and timeline detailed within this thread are accurate and also illustrate Andrade's attempt to duck Alimkhanuly:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=251081&p=5663133#p5663133

You're trying to undermine the arguer via fictitious and facetious claims, because you’re embarrassed about the fact you can’t undermine my argument, since even you’re not stupid enough to pretend that real-world historical events actually happened!

Why are you so upset? Is it because your intellect isn't enough for bringing some other trolling, except the soap opera about facts?

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 07:36**

DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:27
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:23
DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:15

That's some sort of a useless thread, as that stuff can be discussed here. No one on earth would create that thread or the topics like 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight', unless someone is sexually attracted towards Andrade.
I've never created threads about 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight'.

The dates and timeline detailed within this thread are accurate and also illustrate Andrade's attempt to duck Alimkhanuly:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=251081&p=5663133#p5663133

You're trying to undermine the arguer via fictitious and facetious claims, because you’re embarrassed about the fact you can’t undermine my argument, since even you’re not stupid enough to pretend that real-world historical events actually happened!
Why are you so upset? Is it because your intellect isn't enough for bringing some other trolling, except the soap opera about facts?

Are you, therefore, claiming that facts are irrelevant?

Demetrius Andrade is trying to duck Janibek Alimkhanuly.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 07:41**

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:36
DrDuke wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:27
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 07:23
I've never created threads about 'how Alimkhanuly ducks Andrade' or 'how much Andrade and Al are offered for the fight'.

The dates and timeline detailed within this thread are accurate and also illustrate Andrade's attempt to duck Alimkhanuly:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=251081&p=5663133#p5663133

You're trying to undermine the arguer via fictitious and facetious claims, because you’re embarrassed about the fact you can’t undermine my argument, since even you’re not stupid enough to pretend that real-world historical events actually happened!
Why are you so upset? Is it because your intellect isn't enough for bringing some other trolling, except the soap opera about facts?
Are you, therefore, claiming that facts are irrelevant?

Demetrius Andrade is trying to duck Janibek Alimkhanuly.

Since you didn't answer the question and kept the facts soap opera, that's now pretty clear, that your intellect isn't enough for bringing some other trolling.

To answer your own question, I don't give much damn about Andrade and I won't follow his encounters with Alimkhanuly, until the opening bell rings, if it does.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 09:00**

EO acts like a horny slut who wants so badly a big cawk inside her but also she loves to tease the heck of that dude.

EO does this with everybody on BR forum. lol

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 09:08**

Will Boo Boo vacate and move up at 168 to fight for the wbo smw title?

Would you like to see Andrade vs Janibek@160 or Andrade vs Parker, Jacobs or Benavidez@ 168?

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 11:21**

apollo creed wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 09:00 EO acts like a horny slut who wants so badly a big cawk inside her but also she loves to tease the heck of that dude.

EO does this with everybody on BR forum. lol

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 11:27**

I hope Andrade takes the fight, but also I'm sure why they never ordered Munguia, who has been his mando for much longer, and has been at the weight 2 yrs and had 4 fights there.

If no belt fight at 168, he'll be in the same situation as 160. They should have ordered him and Charlo to fight, if that's possible.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 12:27**

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 11:27 I hope Andrade takes the fight, but also I'm sure why they never ordered Munguia, who has been his mando for much longer, and has been at the weight 2 yrs and had 4 fights there.

If no belt fight at 168, he'll be in the same situation as 160. They should have ordered him and Charlo to fight, if that's possible.

Tbh If Andrade would take this fight and beat Jani I'd rank this win on a par with bating an opponent like Mung, Murata or Eubank Jr.

On the other hand if Andrade would vacate his wbo mw title and move up at 168 to fight for the smw wbo title-which I assume it would be vacated by Canelo, then it would be an ironic ducking move.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 12:43**

Eddie will hopefully ensure he takes the fight.
It must be exasperating being Andrades promoter. You have a title holder who is a very good boxer that coasts in the ring when he is on top, rubs fans up the wrong way, and after being an unbeaten pro for 13 years- hasn't had one fight of note.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 14:42**

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 04:36
gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 00:18
Bandog wrote: ↑30 Nov 2021, 23:17

Mungia was, for at least a year if I'm not mistaken, but chose to give it up apparently, not confident of winning against Andrade is my only guess.
Not wanting 25% vs andrade when he can Mabey earn tripple the purse (probably more) for an easier fight with GGG. cant knock that logic honestly.
Just because your mandatory doesn’t mean your getting 25%. That’s only if it goes to purse bids.

That’s true. But if you can get more than your mandated split you can probably get the fight without being mandatory anyway, so if your mung no need to rush into it. Would I of liked mung to take it, yes. But I see why he didn’t.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 19:56**

janibek got his shot ordered a few days ago, and demetrius still hasnt signed the contract!!!

blatant duck from dimmy!!

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 20:22**

gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 14:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 04:36
gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 00:18

Not wanting 25% vs andrade when he can Mabey earn tripple the purse (probably more) for an easier fight with GGG. cant knock that logic honestly.
Just because your mandatory doesn’t mean your getting 25%. That’s only if it goes to purse bids.
That’s true. But if you can get more than your mandated split you can probably get the fight without being mandatory anyway, so if your mung no need to rush into it. Would I of liked mung to take it, yes. But I see why he didn’t.

Do you actually think money was the reason Mung didn't take the fight? He's probably totaled the amount in his last 4 fights he could have gotten fighting Andrade. It was not about the money..it was about derailing his career with a loss, imo.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 20:24**

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 19:56 janibek got his shot ordered a few days ago, and demetrius still hasnt signed the contract!!!

blatant duck from dimmy!!

Totally.
Unless the contract got held up in the Christmas rush post?
Maybe we should give it until February?

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 22:09**

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 20:22
gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 14:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 04:36

Just because your mandatory doesn’t mean your getting 25%. That’s only if it goes to purse bids.
That’s true. But if you can get more than your mandated split you can probably get the fight without being mandatory anyway, so if your mung no need to rush into it. Would I of liked mung to take it, yes. But I see why he didn’t.
Do you actually think money was the reason Mung didn't take the fight? He's probably totaled the amount in his last 4 fights he could have gotten fighting Andrade. It was not about the money..it was about derailing his career with a loss, imo.

Absolutely I think it’s money, money plus risk like every fight negotiation. . It’s not what he makes vs Andrade it’s what he risks losing. Lose to Andrade no GGG pay day. It also makes the down the line canelo pay day less likely. Obviously if he wins it’s great, but it’s a tough fight that he would probably be underdog in.

My guess is Mung wants GGG, mabey charlo if he shows weakness or pays amazing otherwise fornicate it., then probably try snipe a weak 168 belt and hunt canelo for big money.

Posted: **01 Dec 2021, 22:13**

lmao, ya, cuz pro boxing isnt about money at all right

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 07:17**

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 20:22
gregregegg wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 14:42
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 04:36

Just because your mandatory doesn’t mean your getting 25%. That’s only if it goes to purse bids.
That’s true. But if you can get more than your mandated split you can probably get the fight without being mandatory anyway, so if your mung no need to rush into it. Would I of liked mung to take it, yes. But I see why he didn’t.
Do you actually think money was the reason Mung didn't take the fight? He's probably totaled the amount in his last 4 fights he could have gotten fighting Andrade. It was not about the money..it was about derailing his career with a loss, imo.

Yup. true. A possible loss to Andrade even for a good payday would derail future bigger money fights vs GGG and Canelo.

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 07:20**

KiwiRider wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 20:24
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Dec 2021, 19:56 janibek got his shot ordered a few days ago, and demetrius still hasnt signed the contract!!!

blatant duck from dimmy!!
Totally.
Unless the contract got held up in the Christmas rush post?
Maybe we should give it until February?

We will see but vacating his mw wbo title and moving up at 168 to fight for the wbo smw title may be an option for Andrade.

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 09:27**

Key extracts of an interview Eddie Hearn performed with the ‘Behind The Gloves’ YouTube channel, which was published a few hours ago:

When asked about the reason why he wouldn’t stop banging the drum for the Andrade-Charlo bout and instead make more realistic in-house fights with the likes of Golovkin and Munguia:

“…but they're not in-house fights, they're in-network [fights], like I can't, I don't represent those fighters. And if I did, I'll be telling them you got to fight Demetrius Andrade, because I can't say to Golden Boy, look, you have to listen, DAZN would love to see Munguia against Andrade, or Golovkin against Andrade.

“So it's incredibly frustrating, but when they say don't worry about the other guys [Charlo], you know, look at your in-house guys. I don't have any in-house guys at 160 to fight Demetrius Andrade. Alright. Why do we have to look in-house?”

When asked for his thoughts about the WBO ordering Demetrius Andrade to fight Zhanibek Alimkhanuly:

“How convenient was that?!?

“We write to the WBC, who have the ability by the way, within their rules… to order their champion to fight another champion… from another governing body.

“And one day later, we got the [Alimkhanuly] mandatory from the WBO!”

“What we’re doing is asking the WBC to order the [Charlo-Andrade] fight, but [WBO president Paco Valcarcel] then has the right to say we approve that, or we don’t approve that.

“But we wrote to both governing bodies and said ‘Mauricio, please order Charlo to fight Andrade for the good of boxing’

“Paco [Valcarcel], just to let you know, we’ve written to Mauricio Sulaiman, and if [the WBC] orders that [Charlo-Andrade fight], then please accept it for the good of boxing.’

“48 hours later, we get another mandatory [from the WBO]. No disrespect to the guy [Zhanibek Alimkhanuly]. He is a good fighter. I know who he is, but I’m not being facetious. But come on, who wants to see that?

“So now I’m in a situation where I’ve got to be creative. I don’t know what I’m going to do yet.

“Maybe Andrade moves up to 168lbs and becomes the mandatory as a WBO world champion.

“But we’ve got to do something, because we can’t fight that [Andrade- Alimkhanuly] fight!”

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 09:37**

Since signing with Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA almost four years ago, Demetrius Andrade has only fought the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa.

And Eddie Hearn has just admitted that Demetrius Andrade would rather vacate his WBO title to either face Jermall Charlo or make the jump to 168lbs to challenge for the vacant belt, rather than allowing Boo Boo to face his mandatory challenger, Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.

Does anybody seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Demetrius Andrade has only performed one mandatory defence of his WBO middleweight championship during the course of a 38-month title reign.

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 11:05**

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021, 09:37 Since signing with Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA almost four years ago, Demetrius Andrade has only fought the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa.

And Eddie Hearn has just admitted that Demetrius Andrade would rather vacate his WBO title to either face Jermall Charlo or make the jump to 168lbs to challenge for the vacant belt, rather than allowing Boo Boo to face his mandatory challenger, Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.

Does anybody seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Demetrius Andrade has only performed one mandatory defence of his WBO middleweight championship during the course of a 38-month title reign.

who is ANDRADE expected to fight @ 168 for the vacant belt ???

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 11:27**

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 11:44**

dickbelden wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021, 11:05
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑02 Dec 2021, 09:37 Since signing with Eddie Hearn’s Matchroom USA almost four years ago, Demetrius Andrade has only fought the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa.

And Eddie Hearn has just admitted that Demetrius Andrade would rather vacate his WBO title to either face Jermall Charlo or make the jump to 168lbs to challenge for the vacant belt, rather than allowing Boo Boo to face his mandatory challenger, Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.

Does anybody seriously believe that Zhanibek Alimkhanuly is inferior in comparison to the likes of Jason Quigley, Liam Williams, Luke Keeler, Maciej Sulecki, Artur Akavov and Walter Kautondokwa?

Demetrius Andrade has only performed one mandatory defence of his WBO middleweight championship during the course of a 38-month title reign.
who is ANDRADE expected to fight @ 168 for the vacant belt ???

The belt hasn’t been vacated by Canelo yet, but when it does become vacant, Andrade could end up fighting Zach Parker or Danny Jacobs for the vacant WBO super-middleweight crown.

I suspect it’s the former, since the latter is expected to compete at 175lbs to fight Joe Smith Jr.

Posted: **02 Dec 2021, 12:47**

Andrade vs Parker for the wbo smw title coming soon....

Also Benavidez is ranked no 4 by wbo .

The irony

Andrade- "No top 160 fighter wants to fight me!"

Janibek Alimkhanuly- "I DO!"

Andrade-"I'm moving up at smw!"

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