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Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:14

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 14:57

DrDuke wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 10:28

The Loma fight gotta be the biggest, it'll be nice, if he choses it.

Loma is No 1 challenger for a few titles , so he may have a chance to fight for his titles.

My eyes told me that Lomachenko is still very capable, but almost certainly less impressive than his heyday.

A fighter on the cusp of turning 34 years of age delivering a performance that is less impressive than his prime, proves they’re no longer in their prime.

Two words that helps provide context: Richard Commey.

In essence, just wave a magic wand when a fighter moves up a division and is obviously struggling against the size differential. Commey is a freaking natural LWW/borderline WW, and Lomachenko is a more natural SFW. If Canelo moves up to CW, he's automatically past prime because he's going to look different than when he was fighting at SMW. Take your own advice and look at the context, Un-Enlightened One: Richard Commey.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:14

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 14:57

DrDuke wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 10:28

The Loma fight gotta be the biggest, it'll be nice, if he choses it.

Loma is No 1 challenger for a few titles , so he may have a chance to fight for his titles.

My eyes told me that Lomachenko is still very capable, but almost certainly less impressive than his heyday.

A fighter on the cusp of turning 34 years of age delivering a performance that is less impressive than his prime, proves they’re no longer in their prime.

Two words that helps provide context: Richard Commey.

We will see. Its hard to look impressive when step up in competition. First lets see what fight Loma is getting next. I don't think it will be Kambo, Haney, Garcia and most definitely not Tank.

Loma vs Rolando Romero would be a fight that I'd like to see.

Mexi-Box wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:44

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:14

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 14:57

Loma is No 1 challenger for a few titles , so he may have a chance to fight for his titles.

My eyes told me that Lomachenko is still very capable, but almost certainly less impressive than his heyday.

A fighter on the cusp of turning 34 years of age delivering a performance that is less impressive than his prime, proves they’re no longer in their prime.

Two words that helps provide context: Richard Commey.

In essence, just wave a magic wand when a fighter moves up a division and is obviously struggling against the size differential. Commey is a freaking natural LWW/borderline WW, and Lomachenko is a more natural SFW. If Canelo moves up to CW, he's automatically past prime because he's going to look different than when he was fighting at SMW. Take your own advice and look at the context, Un-Enlightened One: Richard Commey.

Very good point. Loma is small compared with these top 135 fighters.

130 is his weight class but at 130 ain't those big fights.

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:53

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:14

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 14:57

Loma is No 1 challenger for a few titles , so he may have a chance to fight for his titles.

My eyes told me that Lomachenko is still very capable, but almost certainly less impressive than his heyday.

A fighter on the cusp of turning 34 years of age delivering a performance that is less impressive than his prime, proves they’re no longer in their prime.

Two words that helps provide context: Richard Commey.

We will see. Its hard to look impressive when step up in competition. First lets see what fight Loma is getting next. I don't think it will be Kambo, Haney, Garcia and most definitely not Tank.

Loma vs Rolando Romero would be a fight that I'd like to see.

who you think loma will fight next my man?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:55

apollo creed wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:53

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 16:14
My eyes told me that Lomachenko is still very capable, but almost certainly less impressive than his heyday.

A fighter on the cusp of turning 34 years of age delivering a performance that is less impressive than his prime, proves they’re no longer in their prime.

Two words that helps provide context: Richard Commey.

We will see. Its hard to look impressive when step up in competition. First lets see what fight Loma is getting next. I don't think it will be Kambo, Haney, Garcia and most definitely not Tank.

Loma vs Rolando Romero would be a fight that I'd like to see.

who you think loma will fight next my man?

I'd like to see Loma vs Romero or Ryan Garcia , if no Kambo or Haney fights.

From what I've gathered, Loma is the #1 contender for 3 out of 4 of the major belts..
So even if he sits back, he should be ordered to face Kambosos or Garcia, and if the orgs stick to the rules, it will be Garcia first due to inactivity.
I don't want to think this, but there could be a possibility of Garcia being made to drop his belt and Loma going for a vacant.
I say that because the orgs are greedy bastards and out of Loma/Garcia/Kambosos (outside of Australia) it is Loma who will bring them the most sizable cut of purse..

So I'm guessing Loma being over-rated isn't an issue anymore? lol. Remember it was Commey, who lost every time he has stepped up. The result was very easy to predict.
Loma vs Kombosis may be the biggest money fight, but Haney vs Kombosis would settle undisputed. Haney tried to get a Loma fight a year or two before. I'd pick Loma over Kombosis, but close over Haney? not sure. Haney also beats Kombosis.

Bandog wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 20:10 So I'm guessing Loma being over-rated isn't an issue anymore? lol. Remember it was Commey, who lost every time he has stepped up. The result was very easy to predict.
Loma vs Kombosis may be the biggest money fight, but Haney vs Kombosis would settle undisputed. Haney tried to get a Loma fight a year or two before. I'd pick Loma over Kombosis, but close over Haney? not sure. Haney also beats Kombosis.

I'm not sure Haney has the power to deter Kambosos Jr? Furious George would walk through him.
Agree- Loma Kambosos Jr

How about Davis?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 20:16

Bandog wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 20:10 So I'm guessing Loma being over-rated isn't an issue anymore? lol. Remember it was Commey, who lost every time he has stepped up. The result was very easy to predict.
Loma vs Kombosis may be the biggest money fight, but Haney vs Kombosis would settle undisputed. Haney tried to get a Loma fight a year or two before. I'd pick Loma over Kombosis, but close over Haney? not sure. Haney also beats Kombosis.

I'm not sure Haney has the power to deter Kambosos Jr? Furious George would walk through him.
Agree- Loma Kambosos Jr

kambo doesnt really have a walk through them style. he times counter attacks. lee selby and mickey bey didnt have power either and he didnt walk him - his fights become chest matches most of the time

I think Kambo is the kind of fighter that he performs better vs a better opponent but indeed Lopez had a poor game plan and fought the wrong fight.

Kambo vs Haney- I'd pick Kambo bc he has that grit to win and also he has valuable experience with Pacquiao and also Lopez. But if Haney would fight negative then Kambo would have troubles.

Loama vs Kambo - I'd pick Loma to win in a tough fight

Kambo vs Garcia/ Tank - I'd pick Kambo

I really hope that George chooses Loma. I feel that Loma is most deserving of the opportunity. Teo already said that he’s done at the weight and wasn’t interested in a rematch. Not only did Loma look absolutely incredible against a powerful top boxer with distinct advantages in size but what was most noteworthy were how Loma-friendly that MSG FANS were. I don’t think that people realize how difficult that is. MSG fans are never continuously chanting on a boxer like that. Loma’s ticket selling ability is much greater than everyone ever thought. Usually MSG fans get won over during a fight on the basis of the efforts put forth but these fans were chanting Loma from minute one. So hard to do.

I also want kambo vs loma. will it be a case of who can offer more? or who can accept less? If it comes down to who will accept less loma has to be in the hunt, think he would fight kambo literaly free (weather his team would let him is unknown). the belts are payment enough.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 Dec 2021, 13:03 I really hope that George chooses Loma. I feel that Loma is most deserving of the opportunity. Teo already said that he’s done at the weight and wasn’t interested in a rematch. Not only did Loma look absolutely incredible against a powerful top boxer with distinct advantages in size but what was most noteworthy were how Loma-friendly that MSG FANS were. I don’t think that people realize how difficult that is. MSG fans are never continuously chanting on a boxer like that. Loma’s ticket selling ability is much greater than everyone ever thought. Usually MSG fans get won over during a fight on the basis of the efforts put forth but these fans were chanting Loma from minute one. So hard to do.

Lot of expat Russian and Eastern Block rabid fans there. Remember Kownacki and his support- it wasn't just Poles, it was every Eastern European expat got behind him. The Krusher did well there too.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 20:16

Bandog wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 20:10 So I'm guessing Loma being over-rated isn't an issue anymore? lol. Remember it was Commey, who lost every time he has stepped up. The result was very easy to predict.
Loma vs Kombosis may be the biggest money fight, but Haney vs Kombosis would settle undisputed. Haney tried to get a Loma fight a year or two before. I'd pick Loma over Kombosis, but close over Haney? not sure. Haney also beats Kombosis.

I'm not sure Haney has the power to deter Kambosos Jr? Furious George would walk through him.
Agree- Loma Kambosos Jr

The guy Haney just beat said Haney would walk through Kombosis.

Haney wanted the fight vs Loma, but Loma lobbied to get the frachise tag to avoid it and fight Campbell. Take it fir what its worth. Does the franchise guy have a real belt?

lol, no sh!t the guy haney beat is gonna up haney

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2021, 19:35 lol, no sh!t the guy haney beat is gonna up haney

You are a special kind of stupid.

Loma is in a good spot right now. Hearn recently said if Haney gets the Kambo fight and wins, he'll definitely fight Loma next. If Loma gets it, not sure if he will give Haney the fight next. Hopefully whoever doesn't get the fight will go up vs Tank next.

DrDuke wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 11:58

Monzon83 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 11:36 Prime still but does he have the killer streak anymore?

You couldn't imagine Hagler or Duran backing off the way he did against Commey.

People exaggerate this situation. It looked like Loma simply had fun with Commey and his corner and he just decided not to take risks after breaking the opponent down.

True about the risks I feel and he's neither hagler or duran

Loma and tank are top two but tanks faced the lesser opposition. Sadly, I feel the promoters of the younger fighters will avoid giving loma a shot and wait for father time.

A teofimo vs Loma rematch was deserved and for this reason I hope Kambosos gives the fight to Loma as the winner of these two will actually go on to make good fights happen.

Besides Loma, I feel tank is the most gifted and although naturally the smallest he could beat them all. Doubt we will see him in the ring with any of those guys anytime soon

You'll all now excatly when Lomo starts slipping ,, the others will actually start asking and actually wanting the fight , instead of just name dropping ,, he's probably coming to that stage now , but my guess is they will all wait and see what happens in his next one or two .

1981timur wrote: ↑22 Dec 2021, 17:54

DrDuke wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 11:58

Monzon83 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 11:36 Prime still but does he have the killer streak anymore?

You couldn't imagine Hagler or Duran backing off the way he did against Commey.

People exaggerate this situation. It looked like Loma simply had fun with Commey and his corner and he just decided not to take risks after breaking the opponent down.

True about the risks I feel and he's neither hagler or duran

Loma and tank are top two but tanks faced the lesser opposition. Sadly, I feel the promoters of the younger fighters will avoid giving loma a shot and wait for father time.

A teofimo vs Loma rematch was deserved and for this reason I hope Kambosos gives the fight to Loma as the winner of these two will actually go on to make good fights happen.

Besides Loma, I feel tank is the most gifted and although naturally the smallest he could beat them all. Doubt we will see him in the ring with any of those guys anytime soon

Tank is pissing his career away - what a waste of talent.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Dec 2021, 07:25

1981timur wrote: ↑22 Dec 2021, 17:54

DrDuke wrote: ↑12 Dec 2021, 11:58

People exaggerate this situation. It looked like Loma simply had fun with Commey and his corner and he just decided not to take risks after breaking the opponent down.

True about the risks I feel and he's neither hagler or duran

Loma and tank are top two but tanks faced the lesser opposition. Sadly, I feel the promoters of the younger fighters will avoid giving loma a shot and wait for father time.

A teofimo vs Loma rematch was deserved and for this reason I hope Kambosos gives the fight to Loma as the winner of these two will actually go on to make good fights happen.

Besides Loma, I feel tank is the most gifted and although naturally the smallest he could beat them all. Doubt we will see him in the ring with any of those guys anytime soon

Tank is pissing his career away - what a waste of talent.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑23 Dec 2021, 07:32

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑23 Dec 2021, 07:25

1981timur wrote: ↑22 Dec 2021, 17:54

True about the risks I feel and he's neither hagler or duran

Loma and tank are top two but tanks faced the lesser opposition. Sadly, I feel the promoters of the younger fighters will avoid giving loma a shot and wait for father time.

A teofimo vs Loma rematch was deserved and for this reason I hope Kambosos gives the fight to Loma as the winner of these two will actually go on to make good fights happen.

Besides Loma, I feel tank is the most gifted and although naturally the smallest he could beat them all. Doubt we will see him in the ring with any of those guys anytime soon

Tank is pissing his career away - what a waste of talent.

Kind of ironic how boxing seems to have become a risk aversion sport these days.

I guess it must just be human nature.

Those crazy mountaineers that used to attempt the Eiger with minimal prep are a thing of the long past.

The modern climber wants up to the minute weather forecasts and the most carefully planned routes and looks for the best possible 14 day window in the year. The other 350 days often hold no interest for them.

Just what were those climbers of the 19th century thinking of?

You could argue a similar case for those boxers who would fight all comers, often ending up with a 3 digit fight career.

Boxing is an entirely different sport today.
It's more of a business still masquerading as a sport out of sheer muscle memory for the benefit of the rubes.

Loma v Kambo would be a real throwback fight.

It's a megafight but it's up to Kambo, let's hope he's up for it.

Who I want to see Loma fight next in order of preference followed by list of who on that list is greatest threat to beat Loma.

fight I want to see most:

1-Tank Davis vs Loma

2-Kambossa vs Loma

3-Haney vs Loma

4-Shakur Stevenson vs Loma at 130 or 135

Most chance of beating Loma:

1-Tank Davis

2-Shakur Stevenson at 130 or 135

3-Kabmossas

4-Haney