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Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 18:25
by margaret thatcher
3rd fight he got dropped (hey, joe louis got dropped by tony galento too! lol) but never looked out of it and then won all the remaining rounds, 1st fight he looked hurt worse
wilder didnt get 1 win out of that series anyway, almost aint good enough my man. the big man reigned supreme
wilder's 6'7 , 83 inch reach, and averaged a ripped, non blubber arsed 225. by weight, height, and reach he's a huge fighter himself by historic standards anyway.
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 19:36
by Ambling Alp II
The point is he weighed a lot less than Fury and still was competitive even though Wilder was not particularly talented. The fight would have gone down to what Quarry and Ibeabuchi could do; not what the scales said.
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 13 Feb 2022, 20:44
by margaret thatcher
im just wondering, where all these ring ready 195 dudes at when they could be taking over the heavyweight division and be making huge money. these light heavyweights who weigh 190 on fight night might be the real top dogs without hardly having to gain a pound
with the stakes involved, crazy that more guys arent campaigning in the 190s at heavy
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 03:00
by DrDuke
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 18:02
My apologies for my reference to the scoring of the first fight. I forgot about the rule that if your guy doesn't get decked, he automatically won the round. Just impossible to imagine giving Wilder three of the other 10 rounds to make a draw. Obviously Fury won all 10. Who could forget all those bombs Fury landed in the first fight.
And Fury never came close to being stopped in either the first or third fights. Those were just optical illusions.
Glad that is all cleared up.
If someone watched the first fight and he is enough sound, he'll indeed find troubles with giving a round to Wilder. Nothing to do with the "doesn't get decked, he automatically won the round" thing, so not sure why you're bringing your lame irony.
And, yeah, calling Fury close to be KOed after the 1st KD of the first fight and after both KDs of the third fight is super-moronic.
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 12:02
by Ambling Alp II
DrDuke wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 03:00
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 18:02
My apologies for my reference to the scoring of the first fight. I forgot about the rule that if your guy doesn't get decked, he automatically won the round. Just impossible to imagine giving Wilder three of the other 10 rounds to make a draw. Obviously Fury won all 10. Who could forget all those bombs Fury landed in the first fight.
And Fury never came close to being stopped in either the first or third fights. Those were just optical illusions.
Glad that is all cleared up.
If someone watched the first fight and he is enough sound, he'll indeed find troubles with giving a round to Wilder. Nothing to do with the "doesn't get decked, he automatically won the round" thing, so not sure why you're bringing your lame irony.
And, yeah, calling Fury close to be KOed after the 1st KD of the first fight and after both KDs of the third fight is super-moronic.
When your guy doesn't get decked, you seem to think he almost automatically won the round. ie You have Lewis-Holyfield I a shutout. Every single round for Lewis. Somehow you had Lewis winning 9 of 12 in the rematch. Ali-Norton was a robbery. etc. Sorry, that's not how it works.
Fury-Wilder I, has several close rounds, mostly because not much was happening. Fury did not win 10 clear cut rounds. There were three round of those 10 rounds (besides the two in which Fury got decked) that a judge could reasonably give to Wilder. That's all it takes for a draw.
Anyone that has watched boxing for any length of time has seen fights stopped where a guy was not as hurt as badly as Fury was in the first and third fights.
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 12:16
by DrDuke
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 12:02
DrDuke wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 03:00
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 18:02
My apologies for my reference to the scoring of the first fight. I forgot about the rule that if your guy doesn't get decked, he automatically won the round. Just impossible to imagine giving Wilder three of the other 10 rounds to make a draw. Obviously Fury won all 10. Who could forget all those bombs Fury landed in the first fight.
And Fury never came close to being stopped in either the first or third fights. Those were just optical illusions.
Glad that is all cleared up.
If someone watched the first fight and he is enough sound, he'll indeed find troubles with giving a round to Wilder. Nothing to do with the "doesn't get decked, he automatically won the round" thing, so not sure why you're bringing your lame irony.
And, yeah, calling Fury close to be KOed after the 1st KD of the first fight and after both KDs of the third fight is super-moronic.
When your guy doesn't get decked, you seem to think he almost automatically won the round. ie You have Lewis-Holyfield I a shutout. Every single round for Lewis. Somehow you had Lewis winning 9 of 12 in the rematch. Ali-Norton was a robbery. etc. Sorry, that's not how it works.
Fury-Wilder I, has several close rounds, mostly because not much was happening. Fury did not win 10 clear cut rounds. There were three round of those 10 rounds (besides the two in which Fury got decked) that a judge could reasonably give to Wilder. That's all it takes for a draw.
Anyone that has watched boxing for any length of time has seen fights stopped where a guy was not as hurt as badly as Fury was in the first and third fights.
No surprise Norton-Ali III wasn't a robbery for you, as you notoriously have sexual attraction towards Ali.
Bringing up Lewis-Holyfield is even more suicidal for you, since your inflamed brain scored it for Evander. Btw, I'm fan of both Lewis and Holyfield, so "your guy" stuff from you doesn't work here at all.
I don't know, why you repetitively keep talking about "doesn't get decked, automatically won the round", while it's clear enough that Fury did more in virtually every round.
And, of course, it's outrageously moronic to consider Fury enough hurt to be waved in the third fight and after the 1st KD of the first fight.
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 16:03
by margaret thatcher
lol wilder and vander didnt win a fight in those meetings, wouldnt it be great though if we could all pull an alpy and just change whichever results we wanted , i guess it is the mythical forum
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 14 Feb 2022, 16:43
by Ambling Alp II
So Mini me, did you also have the first Lewis-Holyfield fight a shutout?
Did you also have the second Lewis-Holyfield a 9-3 win for Lewis in rounds?
Was Ali-Norton III a "robbery"?
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 15 Feb 2022, 00:44
by DrDuke
Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 16:43
So Mini me, did you also have the first Lewis-Holyfield fight a shutout?
Did you also have the second Lewis-Holyfield a 9-3 win for Lewis in rounds?
Was Ali-Norton III a "robbery"?
Don't worry, no sound man gave Holy more than 2 rounds in the first fight and scored the rematch for him.
As well as no sound man is obssessed with a fighter like you are with Ali.
Re: HW's Jerry Quarry Vs Ike
Posted: 15 Feb 2022, 05:17
by Cutman Scabbers
So... getting back to Jerry Q vs. Ike, has anyone's opinion changed?