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Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 04:02
by nickcat0
I don't think the quality of MMA is having much affect on boxing.
The opportunity for youngsters to pursue other activities has increased greatly, boxing is competing with many other sports/hobbies for their attention in those formative years.
Also, the ridiculous politics of the pro game, and the removal of it from terrestrial tv to (often) obscure satellite channels, has led to boxing not being on many people's radar.
It's a numbers game, if you reduce the number of kids taking up the sport, it will affect the number of quality fighters having a pro career.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 04:09
by tonyevs
589555 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 03:24
gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 19:19
For now the prodigy children are still boxing, because it takes a dad boxer to get there son on the mits at 4, but that will slowly change as MMA fighters/fans have kids and get them leg kicking at 3.... Max Holloways son would probably bash me...
Start leg kicking before you have gone through puberty and you will be finished by the time you are 20 like the Thais. Very bad for the body. Leave it until 16 to start like the Dutch and you'll get far more longevity in the sport, you'll still be a wreck by the time you are 50 though. At least boxing only ruins the hands, elbows and shoulders.
.. and brains.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 04:26
by mickey1975
Why does my area seem to be the only one to absolutely boom over the last ten years? When I was growing up, there was one gym, no shows. Now there's loads of both. Fact.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 04:26
by mickey1975
Why does my area seem to be the only one to absolutely boom over the last ten years? When I was growing up, there was one gym, no shows. Now there's loads of both. Fact.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 04:26
by mickey1975
Why does my area seem to be the only one to absolutely boom over the last ten years? When I was growing up, there was one gym, no shows. Now there's loads of both. Fact.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 04:27
by mickey1975
Why does my area seem to be the only one to absolutely boom over the last ten years? When I was growing up, there was one gym, no shows. Now there's loads of both. Fact.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 04:28
by margaret thatcher
i think it's due to your enthusiasm

Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 05:10
by jimmystone
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 04:27
Why does my area seem to be the only one to absolutely boom over the last ten years? When I was growing up, there was one gym, no shows. Now there's loads of both. Fact.
A lot of new money has flowed into York which has increased the price of living in the city. This has resulted in a significant increase in poverty amongst those whose families have been in York for generations. Couple this with the fact it's a very white city and white working class lads have really struggled everywhere in the last 20 years or so makes a fertile recruiting ground for boxing gyms. When you also include the travelling lads in the area, who tend to be poor, white and game it's a double whammy.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 05:38
by gregregegg
589555 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 03:24
gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 19:19
For now the prodigy children are still boxing, because it takes a dad boxer to get there son on the mits at 4, but that will slowly change as MMA fighters/fans have kids and get them leg kicking at 3.... Max Holloways son would probably bash me...
Start leg kicking before you have gone through puberty and you will be finished by the time you are 20 like the Thais. Very bad for the body. Leave it until 16 to start like the Dutch and you'll get far more longevity in the sport, you'll still be a wreck by the time you are 50 though. At least boxing only ruins the hands, elbows and shoulders.
OK this wasnt ment to be that literal. Point is they will figure it out. Mabey todlers will be choking out full grown men, i dont know what i do know is eventualy those lil 3 year old boxers hitting combos on the pads, well half them will be doing MMA.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 05:45
by jimmystone
gregregegg wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 05:38
589555 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 03:24
gregregegg wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 19:19
For now the prodigy children are still boxing, because it takes a dad boxer to get there son on the mits at 4, but that will slowly change as MMA fighters/fans have kids and get them leg kicking at 3.... Max Holloways son would probably bash me...
Start leg kicking before you have gone through puberty and you will be finished by the time you are 20 like the Thais. Very bad for the body. Leave it until 16 to start like the Dutch and you'll get far more longevity in the sport, you'll still be a wreck by the time you are 50 though. At least boxing only ruins the hands, elbows and shoulders.
OK this wasnt ment to be that literal. Point is they will figure it out. Mabey todlers will be choking out full grown men, i dont know what i do know is eventualy those lil 3 year old boxers hitting combos on the pads, well half them will be doing MMA.
I know what you mean, probably more like 5% though. Most kids with ridiculously pushy parents walk away from sport and resent them for it for life. I know I do anyway.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 07:33
by jamesmcdonnell
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 22:16
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 15:08
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 13:09
Tell me exactly who is in the heavyweight division of MMA who could have made a serious impact in boxing.
Also explain the rewards situation.
You are clueless as usual.
Bore off.
Exactly. That’s all you’ve got.
I've no time to argue with foolishness
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 09:46
by Wee Tommy
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 07:33
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 22:16
Exactly. That’s all you’ve got.
I've no time to argue with foolishness
That’s because you are a bellend who knows he’s wrong but as usual can’t admit it. One of the few guys on here I’d like to slap.

Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 19 Feb 2022, 14:35
by jamesmcdonnell
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 09:46
jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 07:33
Wee Tommy wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022, 22:16
Exactly. That’s all you’ve got.
I've no time to argue with foolishness
That’s because you are a bellend who knows he’s wrong but as usual can’t admit it. One of the few guys on here I’d like to slap.
You need help.
Re: Is the popularity and rewards of MMA watering down the quality in boxing?
Posted: 21 Feb 2022, 23:48
by mickey1975
589555 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 05:10
mickey1975 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2022, 04:27
Why does my area seem to be the only one to absolutely boom over the last ten years? When I was growing up, there was one gym, no shows. Now there's loads of both. Fact.
A lot of new money has flowed into York which has increased the price of living in the city. This has resulted in a significant increase in poverty amongst those whose families have been in York for generations. Couple this with the fact it's a very white city and white working class lads have really struggled everywhere in the last 20 years or so makes a fertile recruiting ground for boxing gyms. When you also include the travelling lads in the area, who tend to be poor, white and game it's a double whammy.
There's always been poverty here. My area has been overrun with students living in people who cashed in on the right to buy's house's. TH if you're reading Ned.