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pedfreeboxing wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 18:57

Old bones Ian wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 16:33 Khan has a better resume to get in the BHOF but I don't think either warrant entry

Lol khan its like you're not even factoring in all of Khans losses. Hes done nowhere near enough to even be considered!


Brook hasn't either. But I'd have brook above khan in every way now. Brook has half the number of losses, never lost to no mediocre fighters, never had a love affair with the canvas, suceeded in the much tougher 147 division which Amir failed in. And was always the superior fighter to Amir, as you could see in that 6 round obliteration!

And like I said neither warrant admission but thanks for agreeing

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 19:09

handsofstone wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 18:45 Had the talent, I still maintain prime Brook hangs with the best of his era including the versions of Mayweather and Pacquiao that were around at that time, he should've been world champ a few years before he beat Porter but no never in HOF

Brooks a party animal he never took the game as seriously as Floyd and the other great fighters of his prime years. Hence why now he’s been beaten by the best he’s faced. Fantastic talent at his peak. Nowhere near a HOF career.

turned pro in 2004, was it about 2014 he finally won a world title? As you say never lived the life and was probably starting to regress by time Porter came about

handsofstone wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 03:55

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 19:09

handsofstone wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 18:45 Had the talent, I still maintain prime Brook hangs with the best of his era including the versions of Mayweather and Pacquiao that were around at that time, he should've been world champ a few years before he beat Porter but no never in HOF

Brooks a party animal he never took the game as seriously as Floyd and the other great fighters of his prime years. Hence why now he’s been beaten by the best he’s faced. Fantastic talent at his peak. Nowhere near a HOF career.

turned pro in 2004, was it about 2014 he finally won a world title? As you say never lived the life and was probably starting to regress by time Porter came about

Definitely mate, I remember when he destroyed McIntyre I was in shock. He went backwards after that imo.

There’s no way it’s possible to score Brook-Porter to Porter. 9-3’s fairer than 6-6.

The only dispute comes from Jim Watt’s bizarre commentary at the time where he decided away fighters had to win by a country mile to get the decision.

He scored this to Porter & Haye - Valuev to Valuev & soon after ‘retired’.

On American TV there was no doubt at that Brook was a clear winner & Porter himself has admitted he lost the fight.

Brook - No
Khan - No - but would be closer than brook - but no.

stujones wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 06:36 Brook - No
Khan - No - but would be closer than brook - but no.

I think Khan could. The Olympics at 17 and the impact he's had on Asians taking up boxing. Plus his willingness to fight anyone.

a force wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 05:14 There’s no way it’s possible to score Brook-Porter to Porter. 9-3’s fairer than 6-6.

The only dispute comes from Jim Watt’s bizarre commentary at the time where he decided away fighters had to win by a country mile to get the decision.

He scored this to Porter & Haye - Valuev to Valuev & soon after ‘retired’.

On American TV there was no doubt at that Brook was a clear winner & Porter himself has admitted he lost the fight.

Soon after? - it was about 6 years after Valuev - and he is sorely missed on the commentary.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 06:42

stujones wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 06:36 Brook - No
Khan - No - but would be closer than brook - but no.

I think Khan could. The Olympics at 17 and the impact he's had on Asians taking up boxing. Plus his willingness to fight anyone.

yeh, his achievements goes beyond what he's just done in the ring. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the HOF.

He's done a lot for the sport without even knowing.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 08:41

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 06:42

stujones wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 06:36 Brook - No
Khan - No - but would be closer than brook - but no.

I think Khan could. The Olympics at 17 and the impact he's had on Asians taking up boxing. Plus his willingness to fight anyone.

yeh, his achievements goes beyond what he's just done in the ring. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the HOF.

He's done a lot for the sport without even knowing.

Mcguigan got in for his impact on the troubles. It's not always just boxing.

tigermoth87 wrote: ↑21 Feb 2022, 01:32 No

Joke of a career. 40 wins, only one is actually any good. Wasted his career fighting bums like Donut Dan and Frankie Gavin.

Come on......... 'a joke of a career'

IBF World champion, defended it numerous times as he was contractually obliged to.

Had a go v the monster that was GGG, and kel gave a fab account of himself, lifted GGG of the floor with an uppercut that would have put a lot of fighters to sleep.

Has been unlucky with injuries, was doing very well in the Spence fight until the fractured orbit.

Was outclassed v Crawford but questions remain unanswered with regards Kells preparation.

If Kell had stuck with Dominic throughout his career, If kell had lived the life a bit more outside the ring, If if if

But he is a multi millionaire and gave us some great nights (as fans) in victory and defeat.

If thats a joke of a career, ill have some of that!!

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 08:50

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 08:41

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 06:42
I think Khan could. The Olympics at 17 and the impact he's had on Asians taking up boxing. Plus his willingness to fight anyone.

yeh, his achievements goes beyond what he's just done in the ring. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes the HOF.

He's done a lot for the sport without even knowing.

Mcguigan got in for his impact on the troubles. It's not always just boxing.

That is true but then I think the IBHOF have also got to think about that word "international" in their title a bit more. For example, Henry Maske and yes I will say it, Sven Ottke did some amazing things for boxing in Germany - really got it to become quite the sport there and really without those pioneers would we have had the big Klitschsko nights with the Red Hot Chilli Peppers playing etc. Yet both get overlooked year in year out.

Similarly I am sure there are others in Asia and other parts of the world that need consideration also - but perhaps cos English isn't their first language the cross over to the states hasn't been as strong.

McGuigan was also a boxing broadcaster for a number of years also.

I’d like to see a British Boxing Hall of Fame open. Does anyone know where the US ones get their money? I mean is it a museum that customers pay for entry? I wonder if there’s enough interest to open one in the U.K.?

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 13:35 I’d like to see a British Boxing Hall of Fame open. Does anyone know where the US ones get their money? I mean is it a museum that customers pay for entry? I wonder if there’s enough interest to open one in the U.K.?

Everything is donated. The creator did a Tris life stories.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 14:05

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑22 Feb 2022, 13:35 I’d like to see a British Boxing Hall of Fame open. Does anyone know where the US ones get their money? I mean is it a museum that customers pay for entry? I wonder if there’s enough interest to open one in the U.K.?

Everything is donated. The creator did a Tris life stories.

So they exist purely from donations? Any big donors or just average fan?