Wilder will surely duck AJ challenge to replace Usyk in May

[bjornborgbook]

AJ is a draw win or lose. He's a true superstar. But rematches always sell even better. You have to really look for all the signs of the tank job but they were there before the ruiz and usyk fights. Watch the strange interview with AJ after the usyk weigh in, he said he had no gameplan other than praying and he was just happy for the fans and the sport to have a big fight. Very bizarre comments. Then look at the actual performance, pushing punches one at a time. No urgency, no pride. Remember AJ is a partner in matchroom and now matchroom has a third hwt star attraction in usyk to sell. So it actually benefits AJ' future income to have usyk as a major star under the matchroom banner.

Why he tanked to Ruiz is also explainable. Hearn knew wilder and fury were not going to fight AJ and the dazn investors wanted a ROI so it made sense to tank the fight to Ruiz to set up the big money rematch which did huge numbers. There is a photo of Ruiz and Aj in the ring together after the MSG fight and both were smiling together - like business partners. Remember Hearn forced Ruiz to do the rematch clause which haymon tried to escape because he knew AJ would fight for real in the rematch. AJ Hearn refused to let haymon escape the rematch clause. So Ruiz knew he had no chance and showed up even fatter but blamed it on over celebrating the fake win.

Expect AJ to beat Usyk easily in the rematch but no KO because they also need to preserve Usyk's value for future matchroom profits.

[Bandog]

AJ is a draw win or lose. He's a true superstar. But rematches always sell even better. You have to really look for all the signs of the tank job but they were there before the ruiz and usyk fights. Watch the strange interview with AJ after the usyk weigh in, he said he had no gameplan other than praying and he was just happy for the fans and the sport to have a big fight. Very bizarre comments. Then look at the actual performance, pushing punches one at a time. No urgency, no pride. Remember AJ is a partner in matchroom and now matchroom has a third hwt star attraction in usyk to sell. So it actually benefits AJ' future income to have usyk as a major star under the matchroom banner.

Why he tanked to Ruiz is also explainable. Hearn knew wilder and fury were not going to fight AJ and the dazn investors wanted a ROI so it made sense to tank the fight to Ruiz to set up the big money rematch which did huge numbers. There is a photo of Ruiz and Aj in the ring together after the MSG fight and both were smiling together - like business partners. Remember Hearn forced Ruiz to do the rematch clause which haymon tried to escape because he knew AJ would fight for real in the rematch. AJ Hearn refused to let haymon escape the rematch clause. So Ruiz knew he had no chance and showed up even fatter but blamed it on over celebrating the fake win.

Expect AJ to beat Usyk easily in the rematch but no KO because they also need to preserve Usyk's value for future matchroom profits.

Looks like we'll have to sick EO on you. That should be entertaining.

[Lackeos]

That's another stupid thread by bjornborgbook. Gonna have to put this idiot on ignore.

[tiny_acres]

That's another stupid thread by bjornborgbook. Gonna have to put this idiot on ignore.

I wish admin would just ban idiots like him

[Thomastearns]

AJ is a draw win or lose. He's a true superstar. But rematches always sell even better. You have to really look for all the signs of the tank job but they were there before the ruiz and usyk fights. Watch the strange interview with AJ after the usyk weigh in, he said he had no gameplan other than praying and he was just happy for the fans and the sport to have a big fight. Very bizarre comments. Then look at the actual performance, pushing punches one at a time. No urgency, no pride. Remember AJ is a partner in matchroom and now matchroom has a third hwt star attraction in usyk to sell. So it actually benefits AJ' future income to have usyk as a major star under the matchroom banner.

Why he tanked to Ruiz is also explainable. Hearn knew wilder and fury were not going to fight AJ and the dazn investors wanted a ROI so it made sense to tank the fight to Ruiz to set up the big money rematch which did huge numbers. There is a photo of Ruiz and Aj in the ring together after the MSG fight and both were smiling together - like business partners. Remember Hearn forced Ruiz to do the rematch clause which haymon tried to escape because he knew AJ would fight for real in the rematch. AJ Hearn refused to let haymon escape the rematch clause. So Ruiz knew he had no chance and showed up even fatter but blamed it on over celebrating the fake win.

Expect AJ to beat Usyk easily in the rematch but no KO because they also need to preserve Usyk's value for future matchroom profits.

I enjoy reading your posts. It's clear that you care about the sport and give it some thought.

However there might be some evidence that you might have overlooked in your appraisal of Joshua v Ruiz 1.

How could AJ have known that Ruiz would get up from either of the 2 big bombs AJ landed in Rd 3?

Anyway, it's always refreshing to read a different take on proceedings as things aren't always what they seem to be.

[bjornborgbook]

The first KD left hook was about a two inch punch, not much on it. The other punches may have been pulled. Then all the sudden he gets hit and goes down. All the AJ knockdowns looked weird. Very odd fight, four inch height advantage reach ad, all he had to do was box smart and shut the butterbean out 120-108. For me eyes and senses he lost on purpose and the rematch was huge money, so it paid off for everyone. Dont forget about the gambling profits for those who knew.

AJ physically looked great, super shape, why he would box so dumb and sloppy against such an overmatched opponent makes no sense. Plenty of motive for the dive. There's also the photo of them smiling together in the ring after.

[Bandog]

Obviously a tennis fan. Better off with that Bjorn Borg.

[bjornborgbook]

So what happened to wilder's one man, once face, one name, one champiom campaign? Did he give up and surrender on this just because he lost one fight (he only lost the second fight because he told us Fury cheated and his costume was too heavy on his legs)?

How does anyone explain wilder's lack of confidence to get back up on the horse and try to redeem himself vs AJ who looked absolutely awful (intentionally?) in his recent fights vs usyk and the first ruiz fight?

Why is wilder walking away from a guaranteed at least $10m to fight AJ in May which if he lands a lucky punch could bring in $100m for his next fights?

Or is wilder a complete wwf sham fraud of a pretender masquerading himself as the counterfeit greatest ko machine of all time?

If wilder is indeed a complete wwf fraud pretender, just how many more haymon pbc fighters are also protected frauds? Floyd, Spence, Thurman, Broner, Davis, Charlos?

[Counter-puncher]

How does anyone explain wilder's lack of confidence to get back up on the horse and try to redeem himself

i don't know, that's a difficult one, let's put it to the forum

why might a fighter who was brutally knocked out in his last two fights have a lack of confidence?

a real headscratcher, that one.

vs AJ who looked absolutely awful (intentionally?) in his recent fights vs usyk and the first ruiz fight?

no matter how often you say this sh1t I'm going to call you an attention seeking freak and weirdo, every time, just so you know.

[bjornborgbook]

How does anyone explain wilder's lack of confidence to get back up on the horse and try to redeem himself

i don't know, that's a difficult one, let's put it to the forum

why might a fighter who was brutally knocked out in his last two fights have a lack of confidence?

a real headscratcher, that one.

vs AJ who looked absolutely awful (intentionally?) in his recent fights vs usyk and the first ruiz fight?

no matter how often you say this sh1t I'm going to call you an attention seeking freak and weirdo, every time, just so you know.

We don't see things as THEY are, we see things as WE are. - Anais Nin

He was not knocked out cold brutally, he was just beaten up and hit with thudding shots by an average punching giant.

[squiggy]

Yeah, hit with those thudding shots so many times he looked like he might die soon, that's all.

[Bandog]

Don't feed the troll.

[bjornborgbook]

Yeah, hit with those thudding shots so many times he looked like he might die soon, that's all.

Then why hasn't he retired Doc?

[Jake Savage]

I honestly think, it may be best for Deontay Wilder to retire. He's been stopped twice in a row, and knocked out quite badly by Fury last time out. Those were 2 vicious beatings and he may need time, months, years to fully recover.

If he does want to fight on, fighting AJ would be a bad choice (assuming he wants to win and not just fighting for $) and I think off of 2 KO losses his chances would not be high to win it. If he is going to do a comeback, he needs 1 or maybe 2 easy touches, then perhaps a journeyman or gatekeeper type before being thrown into the mix with a top 5 guy. Ease back, if you are going to do a comeback.

I have a lotta respect for Wilder, went out on his shield vs Fury 3. He was a good champion, nothing to be ashamed of in his loss and he has nothing further to prove. If he asked for my advice, I think the best thing he could do for his own well being would be to retire.

[margaret thatcher]

apparently, despite wilder being brutally ktfo last time , ko'd twice in a row, no wins since 2019, saying he's not sure if he wants to box ever again, and being way uncharatersically silent by his standards, many ppl seem to think it would be aj with the confidence problem between the two of them

wilder will be prob be 37 if he fights again, if he comes back i think a ruiz pbc ppv would be good for him

[Jake Savage]

The KO That Wilder suffered in Fury Wilder 3 is the type f of KO that some fighters never recover from. I don't believe Wilder will ever return to his previous form. Had he never fought Fury, I would like his chances to KO Joshua. Unfortunately, Wilder may be damaged goods now. He's still got a punchers chance vs Joshua tho.

[bjornborgbook]

Wilder told us AJ is a bum, AJ looked awful in his last fights. Wilder didn't take near the punishment Foreman or Lyle took in their fight. Bowe and Holyfield took in their three. It's as if Wilder and his team know he is a total fraud and has zero chance to land the lottery shot on AJ.

By the way they talked about AJ, they made it seem like AJ could never do any damage to Wilder, they also made it seem like Fury was much better than AJ. So why not accept AJ's challenge for at least $10m?

Wilder was a complete Seth Mitchell fraud just with better more careful protection.

[Syntax Error]

Joshua and Wilder circled each other for over 3 years whilst both were champions and didn't manage to fight each other, so I'd be stunned if they managed to negotiate a fight now, especially considering the loser becomes a busted flush on the world stage.

Both can stay relevant by engaging in far less risky fights.

[The Docker]

Wilder didn't take near the punishment Foreman or Lyle took in their fight. Bowe and Holyfield took in their three.

That is actually a very valid point.

Because of the style of boxing (they tended to stand frontally shoulder to shoulder and just winged away at one another) , boxers of yesteryear easily dished out and absorbed more leather than today’s crop.

Factor in they should be nutritiously more healthy and also aided by modern advancements in medicines and therapeutic delivery systems, I can’t see why Wilder would be more washed up post the Fury fights than his counterparts from previous generations who fought tougher fights and continued on to do so.

[Perkin Warbeck]

I've been wanting to see Wilder vs Joshua for a long time, but I can't imagine Wilder being willing to do it.

I'd prefer Wilder or Joyce, but Wallin fighting Joshua this summer is more realistic.

[Thomastearns]

Wilder told us AJ is a bum, AJ looked awful in his last fights. Wilder didn't take near the punishment Foreman or Lyle took in their fight. Bowe and Holyfield took in their three. It's as if Wilder and his team know he is a total fraud and has zero chance to land the lottery shot on AJ.

By the way they talked about AJ, they made it seem like AJ could never do any damage to Wilder, they also made it seem like Fury was much better than AJ. So why not accept AJ's challenge for at least $10m?

Wilder was a complete Seth Mitchell fraud just with better more careful protection.

Wilder's legacy, what it is, is precariously balanced right now.

Getting blasted out by AJ is probably a risk Deontay is not willing to face for $10 million, not when he could have accepted ten times that amount earlier.

AJ himself is also at a crossroads. He desperately needs to win fights to shut his doubters down before any possible showdowns with Fury and Usyk.

Step forward Mr Wallin.

[bjornborgbook]

Wilder told us AJ is a bum, AJ looked awful in his last fights. Wilder didn't take near the punishment Foreman or Lyle took in their fight. Bowe and Holyfield took in their three. It's as if Wilder and his team know he is a total fraud and has zero chance to land the lottery shot on AJ.

By the way they talked about AJ, they made it seem like AJ could never do any damage to Wilder, they also made it seem like Fury was much better than AJ. So why not accept AJ's challenge for at least $10m?

Wilder was a complete Seth Mitchell fraud just with better more careful protection.

Wilder's legacy, what it is, is precariously balanced right now.

Getting blasted out by AJ is probably a risk Deontay is not willing to face for $10 million, not when he could have accepted ten times that amount earlier.

AJ himself is also at a crossroads. He desperately needs to win fights to shut his doubters down before any possible showdowns with Fury and Usyk.

Step forward Mr Wallin.

Wilder's legacy - manufactured protected fraud pretender puppetmastered by al haymon for a decade. Then scam actually would have succeeded except Joshua emerged as the new king by KOing Wladimir in a spectacular fight. If Wlad KO'ed AJ, Wilder would have waited for Wlad to retire and taken over as Haymon and King worked out a deal to "transfer the WBC title" from Stiverne to Wilder.

But AJ exposed Wilder as a fraud when Wilder ducked the $120m to unify vs AJ. Right then and there is when we knew Wilder was a total fraud pretender. This duck forced them to fight Fury as it was the only money option, they hoped Fury was shot and fat and mentally done but even a faded Fury still beat Wilder easy.

[caldo2025]

Hearn and AJ are slapping wilder in the face with $10m and the big bird legged loud mouth fraud pretender bomb squad goes into hiding.

wilder was never nothing but another seth mitchell fraud with better protection.

Pretty dopey posts man. Don’t you understand what fighters go through after getting knocked out? Wilder was having serious issues upstairs after the first Fury TKO. This time, he got cleanly knocked the hell out. There’s a lot that goes into getting that fighter in a healthier mindset enough to get back in the gym never mind another super fight like this would be against AJ. Lastly, after considering all of the stuff above, Wilder is now a very rich man already. He could retire comfortably right now for life without working another minute in his whole life. His children are covered for life. His grand children are set. It’s not like offering, let’s say, you this sum of money. Of course we’d take the money. It’s different when the money isn’t so much of what tells the story when it comes to matchmaking.

[bjornborgbook]

Hearn and AJ are slapping wilder in the face with $10m and the big bird legged loud mouth fraud pretender bomb squad goes into hiding.

wilder was never nothing but another seth mitchell fraud with better protection.

Pretty dopey posts man. Don’t you understand what fighters go through after getting knocked out? Wilder was having serious issues upstairs after the first Fury TKO. This time, he got cleanly knocked the hell out. There’s a lot that goes into getting that fighter in a healthier mindset enough to get back in the gym never mind another super fight like this would be against AJ. Lastly, after considering all of the stuff above, Wilder is now a very rich man already. He could retire comfortably right now for life without working another minute in his whole life. His children are covered for life. His grand children are set. It’s not like offering, let’s say, you this sum of money. Of course we’d take the money. It’s different when the money isn’t so much of what tells the story when it comes to matchmaking.

None of his fights made big money. Don't forget haymon and finkel took their cuts so did Uncle Sam.

[caldo2025]

Hearn and AJ are slapping wilder in the face with $10m and the big bird legged loud mouth fraud pretender bomb squad goes into hiding.

wilder was never nothing but another seth mitchell fraud with better protection.

Pretty dopey posts man. Don’t you understand what fighters go through after getting knocked out? Wilder was having serious issues upstairs after the first Fury TKO. This time, he got cleanly knocked the hell out. There’s a lot that goes into getting that fighter in a healthier mindset enough to get back in the gym never mind another super fight like this would be against AJ. Lastly, after considering all of the stuff above, Wilder is now a very rich man already. He could retire comfortably right now for life without working another minute in his whole life. His children are covered for life. His grand children are set. It’s not like offering, let’s say, you this sum of money. Of course we’d take the money. It’s different when the money isn’t so much of what tells the story when it comes to matchmaking.

None of his fights made big money. Don't forget haymon and finkel took their cuts so did Uncle Sam.

His net worth is between 30-40m dude. He didn’t make that jank fighting all of the other taxi drivers on his resume. Wilder is living well from here on out whether he fights again or not.