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Bandog wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 16:49

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 14:03

Bandog wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 11:21

Usyk would expose Fury I think, showing how over-rated as a skilled boxer Fury is.

Wilder is far from highly skilled, so if you can keep from getting KOd, you win, as Fury did. Usyk is much more skilled in every category, and too smart to only head hunt.

Fury outboxed the most skilled dominant boxer of the 00s/10s. If Usyk wins fair enough, but he isn't 'exposing' anything. If anything Usyk's workrate is more likely to be an issue for Fury than his 'skills'

Outboxed? That fight vs Wlad was the worst fight, with the least punches landed in the history of heavyweight boxing. The fight was so pathetic, it should have been ruled a no contest.

You sir do not appreciate the sweet science

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:09

Bandog wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 16:49

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 14:03

Fury outboxed the most skilled dominant boxer of the 00s/10s. If Usyk wins fair enough, but he isn't 'exposing' anything. If anything Usyk's workrate is more likely to be an issue for Fury than his 'skills'

Outboxed? That fight vs Wlad was the worst fight, with the least punches landed in the history of heavyweight boxing. The fight was so pathetic, it should have been ruled a no contest.

You sir do not appreciate the sweet science

Did you appreciate that fight?

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:50

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:09

Bandog wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 16:49

Outboxed? That fight vs Wlad was the worst fight, with the least punches landed in the history of heavyweight boxing. The fight was so pathetic, it should have been ruled a no contest.

You sir do not appreciate the sweet science

Did you appreciate that fight?

No one can say they appreciate that fight and be honest
Yes Fury win but it was the most boring heavyweight title fight in history

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:50

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:09

Bandog wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 16:49

Outboxed? That fight vs Wlad was the worst fight, with the least punches landed in the history of heavyweight boxing. The fight was so pathetic, it should have been ruled a no contest.

You sir do not appreciate the sweet science

Did you appreciate that fight?

I appreciate the footwork, defense, use of angles, feints and the timing. I consider shutting down Wlad's offense a very impressive feat. Here's a guy who barely lost a round for a decade or so and he simply couldn't get his jab off. I am someone who likes a chess match of a bout though so I realise it's not everyones cup of tea.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2022, 19:15

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:50

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:09

You sir do not appreciate the sweet science

Did you appreciate that fight?

No one can say they appreciate that fight and be honest
Yes Fury win but it was the most boring heavyweight title fight in history

Someone's not old enough to remember the John Ruiz and Chris Byrd cards

fury-chis 2 was worse than fury-wlad

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 01:47

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2022, 19:15

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:50

Did you appreciate that fight?

No one can say they appreciate that fight and be honest
Yes Fury win but it was the most boring heavyweight title fight in history

Someone's not old enough to remember the John Ruiz and Chris Byrd cards

I'm probably one of the oldest on this site
I do remember Ruiz Byrd but Klitschko Fury threw no punches
Super slow paced. Not what anyone would expect from 2 super heavyweights

Well it’s not like Fury to exaggerate so I’d say he’s done…

Phenomenal-Nutrition wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 01:47

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2022, 19:15

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑09 Apr 2022, 13:50

Did you appreciate that fight?

No one can say they appreciate that fight and be honest
Yes Fury win but it was the most boring heavyweight title fight in history

Someone's not old enough to remember the John Ruiz and Chris Byrd cards

By the way Byrd stayed busy in most of his fights. He may have not wanted to go toe to toe but he kept himself in there
Ruiz was a hugging machine but effective. No one can ever mistake his fights for classics but he was good at punch hold hold hold punch.

Fury Klitschko just seemed to be 2 big guys doing nothing for 12 rounds

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2022, 19:15Yes Fury win [vs Wlad] but it was the most boring heavyweight title fight in history

Honourable mentions:

• Mike Tyson vs. Bonecrusher Smith
• Muhammad Ali vs. Alfredo Evangelista
• Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye
• Wladimir Klitschko vs. Sultan Ibragimov
• David Haye vs Nikolai Valuev
• Jimmy Ellis vs. Jerry Quarry
• Ruslan Chagaev vs. Matt Skelton
• Henry Akinwande vs Scott Welch
• Lennox Lewis vs. David Tua
• Chris Byrd vs. DaVarryl Williamson

No but it might be another year or year and a half "retirement"

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑11 Apr 2022, 09:26

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Apr 2022, 19:15Yes Fury win [vs Wlad] but it was the most boring heavyweight title fight in history

Honourable mentions:

• Mike Tyson vs. Bonecrusher Smith
• Muhammad Ali vs. Alfredo Evangelista
• Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye
• Wladimir Klitschko vs. Sultan Ibragimov
• David Haye vs Nikolai Valuev
• Jimmy Ellis vs. Jerry Quarry
• Ruslan Chagaev vs. Matt Skelton
• Henry Akinwande vs Scott Welch
• Lennox Lewis vs. David Tua
• Chris Byrd vs. DaVarryl Williamson

Byrd vs Williamson was definitely unbearable. That and one of them Mickey Bey fights are the 2 worst I've ever seen. Fury vs Wlad is the 3rd worst, and probably holds the record in my mind for the most gutless way a great Champion ever lost his title.

The obvious reason why Fury will fight again after Whyte is because he's just now really peaked as far as his starpower goes. There's no way he'll leave 10's of Millions on the table in fights where he'll be the betting favorite.

Fork tongued Fury understands that 'money talks bullshit walks'.

This slippery tongued loquacious giant is also a businessman supreme.

A gentleman and a man of honour, he most definitely is not.

fury is making huge money now and would be favoured over everyone in the world, would be ridiculous for him to retire now.

fight da aj-usyk 2 winner bruh, become undisputed

Fury knows he won't beat Usyk.

ya, and he was going to lose all 3 fights to wilder right

would love to see fury-usyk, fury prob wins but it's a serious challenge and we'd finally have an undisputed champ, assuming uzzy beats josh of course. if aj wins the rematch fair, we need fury vs josh instead. if fury or the aj-uzzy 2 winners just straight up retires next, they can go f@ck themselves

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 01:08 ya, and he was going to lose all 3 fights to wilder right

would love to see fury-usyk, fury prob wins but it's a serious challenge and we'd finally have an undisputed champ, assuming uzzy beats josh of course. if aj wins the rematch fair, we need fury vs josh instead. if fury or the aj-uzzy 2 winners just straight up retires next, they can go f@ck themselves

Fury was in a few seconds of losing 2 of the 3. We may see how those big punches he took affects his punch resistance.

more chance of him giving that £7m to charity than there is of him retiring, god bless him.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑ more chance of him giving that £7m to charity than there is of him retiring, god bless him.

Oh that?

That was just his Amber Heard type pledge.

Fork tongued Fury indeed.

listen to that sweet silence from Whyte. appreciate that if nothing else

Bandog wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 08:13

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 01:08 ya, and he was going to lose all 3 fights to wilder right

would love to see fury-usyk, fury prob wins but it's a serious challenge and we'd finally have an undisputed champ, assuming uzzy beats josh of course. if aj wins the rematch fair, we need fury vs josh instead. if fury or the aj-uzzy 2 winners just straight up retires next, they can go f@ck themselves

Fury was in a few seconds of losing 2 of the 3. We may see how those big punches he took affects his punch resistance.

But were they all cleanly landed on the button blows, I think not. Even in the first fight where he rose like the undertaker the blow wasnt as flush as even TV might suggest. Fury rides with the punches beautifully, or has done so far. Personally feel a really cleanly landed blow would count him out. So yeah, besides the age of time, the Wilder fights have taken nothing out of him. He's probably fresher and as big a force as he ever could ever be right now, and for the next few years.

Depends on how much numbers are on the pay cheque in my eyes.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑31 Mar 2022, 09:28 End of thread! Moderators, please lock it.

Come on Lightie
I know you like a discussion, so even after your comprehensive time line there is room for interpretation because Tyson talks a load of bollocks.