Murata is on the same talent level as Munguia, Charlito and Andrade with the only mention that Murata is a boxing star and he is selling big time in his country, Japan!
So you’re basically saying that any individual only needs to be matched against Gennadiy Golovkin to have their status in the sport automatically elevated above the likes of Munguia, Charlo and Andrade, even if they’ve never won a legitimate world title fight, have never defeated a legitimate current or former world champion, have only won two fights within the last four years and having also been inactive for the last 28 months?
For the record, I’m not criticising GGG... and I actually hope he wins his next outing. Instead, all I’m doing is stating the obvious, because Ryota Murata is not a good fighter.
There’s no point in pretending he’s something that he clearly isn’t, simply because GGG is facing him.
you re such little weasel.
RYOTA MURATA
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN
Ryota Murata has never won a legitimate world title fight.
Ryota Murata has never defeated a legitimate current or former world champion.
Ryota Murata has only won two fights within the last four years and has currently been inactive for 28 months.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 13:32
by apollo creed
Nobody cares.
Murata is a solid mw.
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN
solid achievements for a fighter!
also Murata is a boxing star in Japan!
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 13:36
by cormack
probly canelo fanboys with hands down their pants
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 13:54
by Enlightened-One
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:32
Nobody cares.
Murata is a solid mw.
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN
solid achievements for a fighter!
also Murata is a boxing star in Japan!
Ryota Murata hasn’t won anything notable within the last decade.
He was elevated to the super WBA world middleweight titleholder OUTSIDE the ring.
He has never won a legitimate world title fight.
He has never beaten a legitimate former or current world champion.
He’s been inactive for the last 28 months.
He’s only won two fights within the last four years.
He’s been competing as a pro for almost nine years and his resume is quite weak.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 15:12
by apollo creed
Ok son. Now go to your bed.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:32
Nobody cares.
Murata is a solid mw.
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN
solid achievements for a fighter!
also Murata is a boxing star in Japan!
Ryota Murata hasn’t won anything notable within the last decade.
He was elevated to the super WBA world middleweight titleholder OUTSIDE the ring.
He has never won a legitimate world title fight.
He has never beaten a legitimate former or current world champion.
He’s been inactive for the last 28 months.
He’s only won two fights within the last four years.
He’s been competing as a pro for almost nine years and his resume is quite weak.
I feel like I've seen this post before in another thread(s).
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 17:27
by The Gratest
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:32
Nobody cares.
Murata is a solid mw.
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN
solid achievements for a fighter!
also Murata is a boxing star in Japan!
Ryota Murata hasn’t won anything notable within the last decade.
He was elevated to the super WBA world middleweight titleholder OUTSIDE the ring.
He has never won a legitimate world title fight.
He has never beaten a legitimate former or current world champion.
He’s been inactive for the last 28 months.
He’s only won two fights within the last four years.
He’s been competing as a pro for almost nine years and his resume is quite weak.
Could he beat john ryder or liam smith?
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
apollo creed wrote: ↑04 Apr 2022, 13:32
Nobody cares.
Murata is a solid mw.
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN
solid achievements for a fighter!
also Murata is a boxing star in Japan!
Ryota Murata hasn’t won anything notable within the last decade.
He was elevated to the super WBA world middleweight titleholder OUTSIDE the ring.
He has never won a legitimate world title fight.
He has never beaten a legitimate former or current world champion.
He’s been inactive for the last 28 months.
He’s only won two fights within the last four years.
He’s been competing as a pro for almost nine years and his resume is quite weak.
Could he beat john ryder or liam smith?
It’s challenging to evaluate how poor the current iteration of Ryota Murata really is, because he hasn’t accomplished anything notable in the paid ranks within the last decade, he has been inactive for the last 28 months and has only won two fights within the last four years.
Ryota Murata’s resume is very weak and he was defeated by the only two moderately decent names he faced (i.e. Rob Brant and Hassan N’Dam).
Of course, he deserves a certain amount of kudos for avenging those losses, but let’s not pretend that Brant and N’Dam are better fighters than they really are, shall we?
Both of those guys were stopped within eight rounds last year by the apparently avoided Zhanibek Alimkhanuly.
Put it this way, when the 47 year old Sergio Martinez announced his comeback, he said that he was targeting a title shot against Ryota Murata, because he didn’t feel ready for the other titleholders.
So what does that tell you?
Anyway, to answer your question, Ryota Murata is a middleweight, whereas Liam Smith is a 154lb-er and John Ryder being a 168lb-er.
So I'm not sure why you'd want to compare three fighters competing in three different weight classes?
The fact that both Brits compete regularly and are a few years younger than Murata, means I’d favour Smith and Ryder to defeat the Japanese fighter.
This is because I feel that a combination of age and inactivity adversely affects a veteran fighters’ athleticism and pugilistic ability.
Don’t you agree?
In terms of the GGG-Murata bout itself, by the 9th April:
• It would have taken a combined total of six years and ten months for both men to have scored their most recent two wins apiece.
• Both men will have a combined total age of 76 years and three months.
Both of those stats are worse than the fighters that participated in the 1990 bout between Foreman and Cooney, which was then dubbed by critics as the two old “Geezers at Caesars”.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 05:19
by Enlightened-One
Does anybody seriously believe that DAZN and GGG Promotions would be willing to proceed with the Golovkin-Murata bout if there was a reasonable chance the Japanese fighter could defy the betting odds to score an upset that would scupper September’s highly-lucrative Canelo rematch?
The answer is a definite no. DAZN and GGG both feel the outcome of the Murata fight is a foregone conclusion. There’s far too much money riding on a decisive victory for Golovkin.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 05:40
by KiwiRider
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:19
Does anybody seriously believe that DAZN and GGG Promotions would be willing to proceed with the Golovkin-Murata bout if there was a reasonable chance the Japanese fighter could defy the betting odds to score an upset that would scupper September’s highly-lucrative Canelo rematch?
The answer is a definite no. DAZN and GGG both feel the outcome of the Murata fight is a foregone conclusion. There’s far too much money riding on a decisive victory for Golovkin.
100% GGG and his team are focused on the money fight after this one, and they are professional enough not to overlook Murata.
If there has been a steeper decline in the 14 months since his last fight, we will have to see.
There have been bigger upsets.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:19
Does anybody seriously believe that DAZN and GGG Promotions would be willing to proceed with the Golovkin-Murata bout if there was a reasonable chance the Japanese fighter could defy the betting odds to score an upset that would scupper September’s highly-lucrative Canelo rematch?
The answer is a definite no. DAZN and GGG both feel the outcome of the Murata fight is a foregone conclusion. There’s far too much money riding on a decisive victory for Golovkin.
100% GGG and his team are focused on the money fight after this one, and they are professional enough not to overlook Murata.
If there has been a steeper decline in the 14 months since his last fight, we will have to see.
There have been bigger upsets.
I agree.
DAZN and GGG Promotions have picked Murata to make Golovkin look good.
It’s a showcase fight to convince the masses into believing that Gennadiy “still has it”, which will make September’s Canelo PPV easier to sell to DAZN’s mainstream audience.
Golovkin is professional enough to realise he has to fulfil his obligation, which is to be at his best against Murata, in order to secure a decisive victory and look good in the process.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:19
Does anybody seriously believe that DAZN and GGG Promotions would be willing to proceed with the Golovkin-Murata bout if there was a reasonable chance the Japanese fighter could defy the betting odds to score an upset that would scupper September’s highly-lucrative Canelo rematch?
The answer is a definite no. DAZN and GGG both feel the outcome of the Murata fight is a foregone conclusion. There’s far too much money riding on a decisive victory for Golovkin.
100% GGG and his team are focused on the money fight after this one, and they are professional enough not to overlook Murata.
If there has been a steeper decline in the 14 months since his last fight, we will have to see.
There have been bigger upsets.
I agree.
DAZN and GGG Promotions have picked Murata to make Golovkin look good.
It’s a showcase fight to convince the masses into believing that Gennadiy “still has it”, which will make September’s Canelo PPV easier to sell to DAZN’s mainstream audience.
Golovkin is professional enough to realise he has to fulfil his obligation, which is to be at his best against Murata, in order to secure a decisive victory and look good in the process.
The detractors are coming out, trying to denigrate a unification fight before it happens. If only Mall Charlo had the courage to do the same with Andrade. Murata wasn't "chosen to make GGG look good, he happens to hold one of the belts.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:40
100% GGG and his team are focused on the money fight after this one, and they are professional enough not to overlook Murata.
If there has been a steeper decline in the 14 months since his last fight, we will have to see.
There have been bigger upsets.
I agree.
DAZN and GGG Promotions have picked Murata to make Golovkin look good.
It’s a showcase fight to convince the masses into believing that Gennadiy “still has it”, which will make September’s Canelo PPV easier to sell to DAZN’s mainstream audience.
Golovkin is professional enough to realise he has to fulfil his obligation, which is to be at his best against Murata, in order to secure a decisive victory and look good in the process.
The detractors are coming out, trying to denigrate a unification fight before it happens. If only Mall Charlo had the courage to do the same with Andrade. Murata wasn't "chosen to make GGG look good, he happens to hold one of the belts.
This is the problem here, whilst some of us are unhappy that more potentially great fights are not being made there are also others who seem to be unhappy that that even some good ones are.
No doubt they must feel frustrated that better matchups aren't being made, even if they don't know exactly how to bring them about.
Or perhaps this is not really a sport but merely a business with a boxing ring as its shop window?
In any case Murata v GGG is still a first rate matchup between 2 great popular champions in what has always been a somewhat frustrating sport for most of its fans.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 11:14
by Enlightened-One
Bandog wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 09:08If only Mall Charlo had the courage to do the same with Andrade.
Bandog wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 09:08Murata wasn't "chosen to make GGG look good, he happens to hold one of the belts.
Yes he was.
The Golovkin-Saunders bout fell through, because GBP and HBO didn't want an upset scuppering the Canelo bout.
DAZN clearly agree with the betting odds and also the media predictions of Golovkin beating Murata considered a foregone conclusion, otherwise the fight wouldn't be allowed to happen.
If the fight is fun, then everyone is a winner, but let's not pretend that Murata is a better fighter than he really is.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 12:11
by 573379
adislav123 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 08:35
highly likely he stops him somepoint after 6, murata can't put a dent in him. still nobody including the beefy boxing messisah outta mex8co can put a dent in ggg or even make him back up xcept to take a breather... and come forward throwing again.
golovkin is the undisputed p4p number 1 at least in my book and everybody's who got a clue bout fvckin boxing.
no matter if the 'offical' corrupted record says otherwise.
golovkin beat canelo twice. back 2 back. clearly.
let's say hypothetically GGG did win both of those fights
how can you say he is the undisputed champ? based off of what? what canelo did AFTER the golovkin fights?
even if GGG won those fights, he did not win the 4 major world titles at 168 in those fights. which is the requirement to go undisputed. Canelo did that post golovkin rivalry, meaning he is STILL undisputed. if we our using our own anecdotes to decide pound for pound rankings, then Chenko beat GGG. Chenko lost to Charlo. is charlo the "p4p" best fighter at the moment? is he unDiSpUtEd despite only holding one major world title currently? stop the trolling
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 05:40
100% GGG and his team are focused on the money fight after this one, and they are professional enough not to overlook Murata.
If there has been a steeper decline in the 14 months since his last fight, we will have to see.
There have been bigger upsets.
I agree.
DAZN and GGG Promotions have picked Murata to make Golovkin look good.
It’s a showcase fight to convince the masses into believing that Gennadiy “still has it”, which will make September’s Canelo PPV easier to sell to DAZN’s mainstream audience.
Golovkin is professional enough to realise he has to fulfil his obligation, which is to be at his best against Murata, in order to secure a decisive victory and look good in the process.
The detractors are coming out, trying to denigrate a unification fight before it happens. If only Mall Charlo had the courage to do the same with Andrade. Murata wasn't "chosen to make GGG look good, he happens to hold one of the belts.
true. also Murata is a boxing star in Japan and it makes great $ense for both fighters. Charlo is hinding under his pbc umbrella and he doesn't want to take risks and fight Benavidez or Andrade. Let alone fighting overseas.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
DAZN and GGG Promotions have picked Murata to make Golovkin look good.
It’s a showcase fight to convince the masses into believing that Gennadiy “still has it”, which will make September’s Canelo PPV easier to sell to DAZN’s mainstream audience.
Golovkin is professional enough to realise he has to fulfil his obligation, which is to be at his best against Murata, in order to secure a decisive victory and look good in the process.
The detractors are coming out, trying to denigrate a unification fight before it happens. If only Mall Charlo had the courage to do the same with Andrade. Murata wasn't "chosen to make GGG look good, he happens to hold one of the belts.
This is the problem here, whilst some of us are unhappy that more potentially great fights are not being made there are also others who seem to be unhappy that that even some good ones are.
No doubt they must feel frustrated that better matchups aren't being made, even if they don't know exactly how to bring them about.
Or perhaps this is not really a sport but merely a business with a boxing ring as its shop window?
In any case Murata v GGG is still a first rate matchup between 2 great popular champions in what has always been a somewhat frustrating sport for most of its fans.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 13:15
by apollo creed
Ryota Murata
mw olympic gold medalist at the London 2012 Games.
wba mw super champion
#5 Ring Magazine
#4 ESPN
A boxing star in Japan
Charlito can only dream to get an opponent like Murata. Meanwhile Charlito is fighting Maciej Sulecki , a guy who lost to Andrade. Isn't ironic that Charlito is fighting Andrade's leftovers, instead of fighting Andrade himself ??! lol
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 13:15
by adislav123
how much is ggg making again versus olympic gold medalist 'just no good boxer' murata while 'waiting' for the 'money fight' against the mexican almighty unbeatable boxing messiah canelo?
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 13:28
by adislav123
if you don't want to go insane i'd advise everybody to put the irrefutable one on ignore.
for a while it's a good bit of fun witnessing the madness, until...
he really should have a warning to 'proceed at your own risk' on top of his 'comments' by now.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 05 Apr 2022, 16:24
by apollo creed
adislav123 wrote: ↑05 Apr 2022, 13:28
if you don't want go insane i'd advise everybody to put the irrefutable one on ignore.
for a while it's a good bit of fun witnessing the madness, until...
he really should have a warning to 'proceed at your own risk' on top of his 'comments' by now.
Eunuch-One
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 07 Apr 2022, 13:58
by Thomastearns
You can see the awe in which the world of boxing still holds GGG in by the respect he still gets from everyone connected to the sport.
He might be turning 40 tomorrow but he is still regarded as something almost superhuman, a genuine throwback legend from a previous time.
Murata has the knowledge that if he was ever going to face Golovkin, then this is the time and place to do it.
I'm expecting nothing but the best from Ryota Murata in this epic clash. It's probably the biggest fight in Japan since those legendary days of Mike Tyson.
Re: Its sad that are detractors that pray GGG is getting beat by Murata just bc they hate G and his fans.Very sad.
Posted: 09 Apr 2022, 02:33
by thomasjkelley
adislav123 wrote: ↑02 Apr 2022, 08:35
highly likely he stops him somepoint after 6, murata can't put a dent in him. still nobody including the beefy boxing messisah outta mex8co can put a dent in ggg or even make him back up xcept to take a breather... and come forward throwing again.
golovkin is the undisputed p4p number 1 at least in my book and everybody's who got a clue bout fvckin boxing.
no matter if the 'offical' corrupted record says otherwise.
golovkin beat canelo twice. back 2 back. clearly.
I wouldn't say he won the second fight clearly. You gotta give Canelo at least 5 rounds. 4 for certain.
