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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 14 Apr 2022, 23:09
by KiwiRider
Yeah, could have fought Ortiz, and I'd be interested enough to watch that.
But Spong?
Nope. Not worth my time.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 04:41
by Syntax Error
What is Ruiz up to?

He's still got gravitas due to the smoking of Joshua.

Even though he lost the rematch, he has a ready made excuse due to being shaped like a space hopper and weighing more than a Brachiosaurus, plus the fact that Joshua ran like Sir Mo Farah, but he's been treading water ever since.

I would love to see him fight the likes of Wilder or Ortiz, but he seems more interested in talking a good fight than fighting one these days.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 06:03
by Enlightened-One
Syntax Error wrote: 15 Apr 2022, 04:41 What is Ruiz up to?

He's still got gravitas due to the smoking of Joshua.

Even though he lost the rematch, he has a ready made excuse due to being shaped like a space hopper and weighing more than a Brachiosaurus, plus the fact that Joshua ran like Sir Mo Farah, but he's been treading water ever since.

I would love to see him fight the likes of Wilder or Ortiz, but he seems more interested in talking a good fight than fighting one these days.
Andy Ruiz Jr. had knee surgery last August that kept him out of the ring for longer than he wanted.

He’s a wealthy man now, so perhaps his appetite for the sport isn’t what it once was.

Either way, he’s entitled to a ring rust clearing bout, so he gets a free pass from me for the Sprong fight.

But if he faces another substandard opponent after Sprong, then I’ll consider him done and irrelevant.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 06:25
by H8Usernames
This is acctually an interesting fight.

Andy Ruiz has for a long time focused on losing bodyfat as if he was some bodybuilder instead of a boxer.

The streetcred that Andy got from beating Joshua has diminished since that fight took place with Joshua being exposed by Usyk.

Now Andy is doing the promotional confusion act and recovering from knee surgery. I would not be all that surprised to see him lose this one.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 07:20
by gregregegg
Ruiz could break his leg, his arm, and his jaw all in fight week and he would still win this. Its a missmatch.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 07:40
by Bandog
I guess Ruiz figured, like I predicted, that old man Ortiz was too tough a fight for him.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 10:05
by joshj909
Who's left for Ortiz for the summer? Hunter? Wallin? Helenius? Kabayel?

I'd like to see Chisora or Sanchez but it's most likely a journeyman.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 10:44
by RScarf1
The YouTube channel “Real World Police” posted a new video showing Spong receiving a speeding ticket. He was respectful to the police the whole time.

Regarding the fight against Ruiz, I think Spong could win. I’ve seen him fight at boxing events I attended. He deserves this opportunity.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 19:21
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 19:28
by Crease
Exceptionally poor fight. Scythian to get a W in Mexico I guess....

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 20:07
by Bandog
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Apr 2022, 19:21
I hope so.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 15 Apr 2022, 20:13
by margaret thatcher
Bandog wrote: 15 Apr 2022, 07:40 I guess Ruiz figured, like I predicted, that old man Ortiz was too tough a fight for him.
ya, he signed to fight ortiz because he figured it was too tough a fight for him, that makes perfect sense :lol:

do we have another jojo diaz-haney, where the guy actually signed to fight is still ducking lol

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 16 Apr 2022, 08:10
by Bandog
margaret thatcher wrote: 15 Apr 2022, 20:13
Bandog wrote: 15 Apr 2022, 07:40 I guess Ruiz figured, like I predicted, that old man Ortiz was too tough a fight for him.
ya, he signed to fight ortiz because he figured it was too tough a fight for him, that makes perfect sense :lol:

do we have another jojo diaz-haney, where the guy actually signed to fight is still ducking lol
The only thing this fight has in common with JoJo (who did drag his feet to sign), is that Ruiz will lose too. Ruiz apparently not too bright to sign for two fights?

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 16 Apr 2022, 11:38
by cormack
spong isnt even a credible sparring option for any top 20 HW
this is purely $$$$$

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 16 Apr 2022, 12:52
by Enlightened-One
stevec@france wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 11:38 spong isnt even a credible sparring option for any top 20 HW
this is purely $$$$$
It seems fairly obvious you don’t bother reading any of the other posts in this thread?

Ruiz Jr. is facing Luis Ortiz next, instead of Tyrone Sprong. :OhYes:

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 16 Apr 2022, 17:03
by SenorPipino
Bandog wrote: 15 Apr 2022, 07:40 I guess Ruiz figured, like I predicted, that old man Ortiz was too tough a fight for him.
I guess he didn't since Ruiz ditched Spong and agreed to fight Ortiz.
Spong was probably just being used as negotiating leverage anyways. Ruiz always wanted to fight Ortiz, who looked oh so faded against Martin.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 17 Apr 2022, 11:58
by Bandog
SenorPipino wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 17:03
Bandog wrote: 15 Apr 2022, 07:40 I guess Ruiz figured, like I predicted, that old man Ortiz was too tough a fight for him.
I guess he didn't since Ruiz ditched Spong and agreed to fight Ortiz.
Spong was probably just being used as negotiating leverage anyways. Ruiz always wanted to fight Ortiz, who looked oh so faded against Martin.
Sorry, but what you are saying makes no sense. Am I missing something? Don't you negotiate BEFORE you sign to fight someone. I'm glad the two are fighting, but this is a risky situation for Ruiz. Ortiz may be faded, but is a tricky southpaw with much more power and skill than an even more faded Arreola. Ruiz can win if he can make it to the late rounds and Ortiz gasses out.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 11:37
by Enlightened-One
843492 wrote: 17 Apr 2022, 09:28People only abuse Tyrone Spong his name to gain some fame and attention and that's all, nobody really dares to actually fight him in a (kick)boxing ring.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 14:09
by cormack
Enlightened-One wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 12:52
stevec@france wrote: 16 Apr 2022, 11:38 spong isnt even a credible sparring option for any top 20 HW
this is purely $$$$$
It seems fairly obvious you don’t bother reading any of the other posts in this thread?

Ruiz Jr. is facing Luis Ortiz next, instead of Tyrone Sprong. :OhYes:
OOOOH !

not always 100 %

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 16:40
by polecateddy
If you check Spong got stopped by punches in a MMA fight by 41 year old shopworn Russian, Sergei Kharitonov in late January. Spong is about done.

Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Tyrone Spong (July 16th)

Posted: 18 Apr 2022, 18:04
by joshj909
polecateddy wrote: 18 Apr 2022, 16:40 If you check Spong got stopped by punches in a MMA fight by 41 year old shopworn Russian, Sergei Kharitonov in late January. Spong is about done.
Took him down and punched him, not quite the same as finishing him on his feet. Weirdly enough, Kharitonov also dropped Malik Scott twice recently under boxing rules and won the decision. I don't think Spong's loss to Kharitonov can be simplified to being stopped by punches by a shopworn 41 year old MMA guy.