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For the record i think Frazier/Ali 1 is overrated

Yeah bit OTT,they mean well, & that fight did put a lot of mens fights of late to shame to be fair, but that's a wild statement

handsofstone wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 06:44

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 03:40 It really wasn't the women's Frazier/Ali. It's disrespectful to all 4 fighters to suggest it.

It should stand in it's own right and not be compared to anything, but no it has to be compared to a male fight from 50 years ago - Why? Because it's simplistic to and people will lap it up with out stopping for just a second and think 'hang on a minute'

Sorry ladies you can't escape in your own light just yet, not with headlines like this.

Time will tell but I strongly believe this will have a major effect on woman's Boxing more than any other fight, Frazier/Ali 1 had plenty historic fights before it, this is a first, like it or lump it, it's here to stay , I'm not claiming to be a massive follower of woman's boxing, men's is hard enough to keep a handle on but as a father of 3 daughters, one of which is sporty and plays football, I'm all for it

I was watching on the Sunday morning, my 5 year old daughter watched it with me and was really excited about it, she was totally blown away that “girls can do it too!” (her words). She’d not seen any women’s boxing before which is probably my fault as admittedly I just tend to fast forward most of it as it tends to not be great quality. But really glad we watched that one together, was a fantastic fight.

Although naturally I told her straight afterwards “you’re sticking to ballet classes, it’s a lot safer”

In this day and age we tend to try and create historical moments in life on a whim. Time will tell if this is the fight of the century.
I won’t deny that it was fantastic for women’s boxing, my lass watched it with me and was very much invested in it, rather than casually watching as she does with other fights.
Women’s boxing has a very long way to go, let’s be honest, but as a spectacle between two of the best, it was pretty exciting stuff.
I suspect BN are merely suggesting that this is the fight that will help lift off the women’s game rather than ‘the fight of the century’. However, as we see in all sports these days, we get the women rammed down our throat with little justification so I can see why some think this is OTT.

Competitive fight
That's a rarity in women's boxing.
Unimpressive standard
That's all

BN been on a downward spiral since they started identifying itself as a magazine.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 10:58

handsofstone wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 06:44

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 03:40 It really wasn't the women's Frazier/Ali. It's disrespectful to all 4 fighters to suggest it.

It should stand in it's own right and not be compared to anything, but no it has to be compared to a male fight from 50 years ago - Why? Because it's simplistic to and people will lap it up with out stopping for just a second and think 'hang on a minute'

Sorry ladies you can't escape in your own light just yet, not with headlines like this.

Time will tell but I strongly believe this will have a major effect on woman's Boxing more than any other fight, Frazier/Ali 1 had plenty historic fights before it, this is a first, like it or lump it, it's here to stay , I'm not claiming to be a massive follower of woman's boxing, men's is hard enough to keep a handle on but as a father of 3 daughters, one of which is sporty and plays football, I'm all for it

I was watching on the Sunday morning, my 5 year old daughter watched it with me and was really excited about it, she was totally blown away that “girls can do it too!” (her words). She’d not seen any women’s boxing before which is probably my fault as admittedly I just tend to fast forward most of it as it tends to not be great quality. But really glad we watched that one together, was a fantastic fight.

Although naturally I told her straight afterwards “you’re sticking to ballet classes, it’s a lot safer”

That's brilliant mate

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 10:58

handsofstone wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 06:44

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 03:40 It really wasn't the women's Frazier/Ali. It's disrespectful to all 4 fighters to suggest it.

It should stand in it's own right and not be compared to anything, but no it has to be compared to a male fight from 50 years ago - Why? Because it's simplistic to and people will lap it up with out stopping for just a second and think 'hang on a minute'

Sorry ladies you can't escape in your own light just yet, not with headlines like this.

Time will tell but I strongly believe this will have a major effect on woman's Boxing more than any other fight, Frazier/Ali 1 had plenty historic fights before it, this is a first, like it or lump it, it's here to stay , I'm not claiming to be a massive follower of woman's boxing, men's is hard enough to keep a handle on but as a father of 3 daughters, one of which is sporty and plays football, I'm all for it

I was watching on the Sunday morning, my 5 year old daughter watched it with me and was really excited about it, she was totally blown away that “girls can do it too!” (her words). She’d not seen any women’s boxing before which is probably my fault as admittedly I just tend to fast forward most of it as it tends to not be great quality. But really glad we watched that one together, was a fantastic fight.

Although naturally I told her straight afterwards “you’re sticking to ballet classes, it’s a lot safer”

I’ll take things that never happened for $200 Alex lol

I can’t see what he said, but we all know it was probably boorish and stupid, don’t we?

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 14:09

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 10:58

handsofstone wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 06:44

Time will tell but I strongly believe this will have a major effect on woman's Boxing more than any other fight, Frazier/Ali 1 had plenty historic fights before it, this is a first, like it or lump it, it's here to stay , I'm not claiming to be a massive follower of woman's boxing, men's is hard enough to keep a handle on but as a father of 3 daughters, one of which is sporty and plays football, I'm all for it

I was watching on the Sunday morning, my 5 year old daughter watched it with me and was really excited about it, she was totally blown away that “girls can do it too!” (her words). She’d not seen any women’s boxing before which is probably my fault as admittedly I just tend to fast forward most of it as it tends to not be great quality. But really glad we watched that one together, was a fantastic fight.

Although naturally I told her straight afterwards “you’re sticking to ballet classes, it’s a lot safer”

I’ll take things that never happened for $200 Alex lol

Which bit do you find hard to believe happened? If I was making it up, I’d come up with something a bit less mundane

Yes its ott. Let them have a different magazine for women's boxing. See how many buy it. Different sport to me

I can think of better fights with more drama.
Heck- Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall had more drama, was for undisputed and had a dodgy result.
AJ Vs Klitchko had way more drama.
Uysk for undisputed in the final of the WBSS was a better fight.

Nope, its woke pandering, trying to justify what was a pretty lame undisputed fight in a shallow division.

The fight will air on BBC Three at 10 pm UK time tonight and on iPlayer.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 14:56 I can think of better fights with more drama.
Heck- Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall had more drama, was for undisputed and had a dodgy result.
AJ Vs Klitchko had way more drama.
Uysk for undisputed in the final of the WBSS was a better fight.

Nope, its woke pandering, trying to justify what was a pretty lame undisputed fight in a shallow division.

Jordan Gill vs Guerfi
Conlan vs Wood

And it’s not just about excitement. It’s about the quality. Mens boxing is leagues above women’s. Womens world boxing is area level AT BEST.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 14:19

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 14:09

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 10:58

I was watching on the Sunday morning, my 5 year old daughter watched it with me and was really excited about it, she was totally blown away that “girls can do it too!” (her words). She’d not seen any women’s boxing before which is probably my fault as admittedly I just tend to fast forward most of it as it tends to not be great quality. But really glad we watched that one together, was a fantastic fight.

Although naturally I told her straight afterwards “you’re sticking to ballet classes, it’s a lot safer”

I’ll take things that never happened for $200 Alex lol

Which bit do you find hard to believe happened? If I was making it up, I’d come up with something a bit less mundane

Lol just joshing you. It just sounded like one of those made up tweets you get from people like:

‘My five year old saw that Trump won the election. As a tear rolled down her cheek she turned to me and asked “why did they stop Hillary Clinton from winning? Is it because she’s a woman and they don’t want a woman to be president mommy???” I held my daughter tightly but didn’t want to tell her the truth…… but I had to…. “Yes, Jessica, it is….. and now we have the evil orange man for 4 years….” But Jessica is a fighter and quickly replied “Don’t be sad mommy….. when I grow up I’ll become President and will make sure women are treated equally for ever!”…… it was my turn to cry….. but with happiness this time…..’

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 15:11

KiwiRider wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 14:56 I can think of better fights with more drama.
Heck- Josh Taylor Vs Jack Catterall had more drama, was for undisputed and had a dodgy result.
AJ Vs Klitchko had way more drama.
Uysk for undisputed in the final of the WBSS was a better fight.

Nope, its woke pandering, trying to justify what was a pretty lame undisputed fight in a shallow division.

Jordan Gill vs Guerfi
Conlan vs Wood

And it’s not just about excitement. It’s about the quality. Mens boxing is leagues above women’s. Womens world boxing is area level AT BEST.

Fair enough.
I was trying to think of undisputed 4 belt fights for a comparison, and every one that has happened this century has been better than the magazine cover. Admittedly the AJ Vs Klitchko was only for 3 belts, but Wilder was never going to face either so it was in a way undisputed.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 14:19

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 14:09

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 10:58

I was watching on the Sunday morning, my 5 year old daughter watched it with me and was really excited about it, she was totally blown away that “girls can do it too!” (her words). She’d not seen any women’s boxing before which is probably my fault as admittedly I just tend to fast forward most of it as it tends to not be great quality. But really glad we watched that one together, was a fantastic fight.

Although naturally I told her straight afterwards “you’re sticking to ballet classes, it’s a lot safer”

I’ll take things that never happened for $200 Alex lol

Which bit do you find hard to believe happened? If I was making it up, I’d come up with something a bit less mundane

Unfortunately some people are only able to believe conspiracy theories.

Glad your daughter enjoyed the fight. She should stick to ballet but still watch the boxing with you

“She (Katie Taylor) is quite simply one of the greatest athletes this world has ever seen”

Matt Christie’ scrambles desperately to get aboard the woke train this week on the podcast.

Pretty poor stuff from a bloke who’s supposed to be a serious journalist.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 20:23 “She (Katie Taylor) is quite simply one of the greatest athletes this world has ever seen”

Matt Christie’ scrambles desperately to get aboard the woke train this week on the podcast.

Pretty poor stuff from a bloke who’s supposed to be a serious journalist.

Taylor was falling over her own feet in the last round in an attempt to throw leather and hope it lands. Absolute desperation. Add in the 10 x 2minute rounds.

Come on.

We're getting into the realms of John Fury bollocks here. 'one of the greatest athletes ever seen'

fornicate off

Her football career helps her claim.

Wait till you get marshall v shields at newcastle arena 'second best fight of the century'

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑06 May 2022, 03:37

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑05 May 2022, 20:23 “She (Katie Taylor) is quite simply one of the greatest athletes this world has ever seen”

Matt Christie’ scrambles desperately to get aboard the woke train this week on the podcast.

Pretty poor stuff from a bloke who’s supposed to be a serious journalist.

Taylor was falling over her own feet in the last round in an attempt to throw leather and hope it lands. Absolute desperation. Add in the 10 x 2minute rounds.

Come on.

We're getting into the realms of John Fury bollocks here. 'one of the greatest athletes ever seen'

fornicate off

Agreed. Matt Christie used to have SOME integrity. His editorial was cringe

Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑06 May 2022, 05:24 Wait till you get marshall v shields at newcastle arena 'second best fight of the century'

Dunno mate, isn't the power punching Shields the GOAT! Esp if Marshall wins it will be like Stracey v Palimino, Honeyghan v Curry, McGuigan v Pedroza

Another lame organisation bowing to the cult of woke.

"It was a couple of womxn putting on something vaguely successful, so let's hype it to the absolute max...."

Is it woke or is it an attempt to increase their business? I haven't bought a magazine in at least 20 years. My Mrs is subscribed to four. That's anecdotal, I know, but there is zero chance of me ever buying Boxing News, there is a better than zero chance of my Mrs buying it. Women are better spenders/more impulsive than men.