Naoya Inoue vs. Paul Butler | Undisputed - 13 December 2022

[Counter-puncher]

I think you guys are being a little bit harsh to Butler.
I went back and checked his records and the Tete stoppage was ages ago. 7 years and Butler went 8 rounds.
Sure, the odds are he would get stopped, but surely he can last out a while.

nah, he's getting butchered

[margaret thatcher]

I think you guys are being a little bit harsh to Butler.
I went back and checked his records and the Tete stoppage was ages ago. 7 years and Butler went 8 rounds.
Sure, the odds are he would get stopped, but surely he can last out a while.

i mean, rodriguez 120-106'd butler (and almost stopped him in the first) but he got stopped by inoue in 2. payano was a tough guy whose only other stoppage loss is a 9 rounder to nery, but got blasted in 90 seconds by inoue. mcdonnell had never been stopped, then got taken out in 1. narvaez went 12 with donaire and never stopped, then blasted out in 2

butler could possibly last some rounds like maloney did, but would you really be surprised if he got iced very quickly? mcdonnell, rodriguez, narvaez, payano, and donaire all finished within 2 + butler beaten badly vs both world class opponents he faced

[gregregegg]

I think you guys are being a little bit harsh to Butler.
I went back and checked his records and the Tete stoppage was ages ago. 7 years and Butler went 8 rounds.
Sure, the odds are he would get stopped, but surely he can last out a while.

If over under was 3 rounds id bet under... Gunna get slaughtered.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Inoue: If Negotiations Go Smoothly, I Would Like To Fight For Fourth Belt

Already the true lineal champion at bantamweight, Naoya Inoue wouldn’t mind sticking around to collect the division’s final chip.

The unbeaten three-division champ added to his pound-for-pound accolades with a second-round knockout of Nonito Donaire in their rematch Tuesday evening local time at Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan. Inoue now holds the WBA, WBC and IBF titles, having won the WBA and WBC belts from Donaire (42-7, 28KOs) in separate bouts.

The lone remaining titlist at the weight is Liverpool’s Paul Butler, who holds the WBO belt. It’s not exactly a dream fight for Inoue in terms of name value but relevant enough to where he can make 118 at least one more time.

“If the negotiations go smoothly, of course I would like to fight for the fourth belt and become the undisputed bantamweight champion,” Inoue told BS.com prior to his win over Donaire.

Negotiating such a fight would seem easy in principle but could prove to be another matter behind the scenes. The same parties involved in Tuesday’s rematch with Donaire would be involved in a fight between Inoue (23-0, 20KOs) and Butler (34-2, 15KOs), the latter who fights under the Probellum banner.

Probellum co-founder and promoter Richard Schaefer took the lead in securing the Inoue rematch for Donaire, negotiating with Inoue’s promoters in Japan. A deal was reached, though requiring Top Rank—who holds U.S. rights to Donaire—to be involved for the fight to air on ESPN+ in the United States (Amazon Prime Video presented the event in Japan).

U.K. streaming rights were limited to the fight being presented on Top Rank’s YouTube channel. Top Rank has a rights deal with Sky Sports, who did not air Tuesday’s event. Sky has not aired any show involving a fighter from Probellum or the now-defunct MTK Global since U.S. sanctions were imposed on accused crime lord Daniel Kinahan in April. As previously reported by BS.com, boxers under the UK-based Boxxer Limited promotional banner are now required to sign a document confirming they don’t have any ties to Kinahan.

Probellum and MTK were not named as companies linked to Kinahan by the U.S. Treasury Department, though both companies were identified as off limits for any Boxxer-promoted event that airs on Sky Sports.

Top Rank founder and Hall of Fame promoter Bob Arum alleged in prior interviews that Kinahan was directly involved with Probellum. Naturally, the claim was refuted by Probellum staff while providing the latest entry in the longtime on-again-off-again feud between Arum and Schaefer dating back to when Schaefer headed Golden Boy Promotions.

Should it serve as an obstacle, it will simply be on to a run at a fourth divisional title for arguably the sport’s top pound-for-pound talent.

“I would love to stay in the division,” Inoue stated after registering his fourth consecutive knockout. “If [a fight with Butler] can’t be done, then I am capable of moving up [to junior featherweight].”

Inoue previously outpointed Donaire in their hellacious November 2019 bout which also took place at Saitama Super Arena. Inoue entered the fight as the IBF titlist, winning the WBA belt from Donaire and now snatching the WBC belt from the Fil-Am superstar and future Hall of Famer.

Butler outpointed Jonas Sultan over twelve rounds earlier to win an interim WBO title earlier this spring. His reign was upgraded in the wake of John Riel Casimero—who was twice unable to defend versus Butler—deemed unfit by the WBO to continue his reign after twice failing to honor his mandatory title obligations.

[Spud]

Just think for a quick second and the miracle happened… if Butler pulled it off and won.

Surely it would qualify as one of the biggest shocks ever.

I hope the bookies offer generous odds on Inoue winning inside 2 rounds

[KiwiRider]

I think you guys are being a little bit harsh to Butler.
I went back and checked his records and the Tete stoppage was ages ago. 7 years and Butler went 8 rounds.
Sure, the odds are he would get stopped, but surely he can last out a while.

i mean, rodriguez 120-106'd butler (and almost stopped him in the first) but he got stopped by inoue in 2. payano was a tough guy whose only other stoppage loss is a 9 rounder to nery, but got blasted in 90 seconds by inoue. mcdonnell had never been stopped, then got taken out in 1. narvaez went 12 with donaire and never stopped, then blasted out in 2

butler could possibly last some rounds like maloney did, but would you really be surprised if he got iced very quickly? mcdonnell, rodriguez, narvaez, payano, and donaire all finished within 2 + butler beaten badly vs both world class opponents he faced

All of which makes sense.
And no, I would not be surprised if it went like the McDonnell fight.
But there has to be an answer to Inoue.
Also I don't think Butler is any better than Nonito.
Love the under dog, I'm cheering on Butler, but my cash stays in my wallet.

[ThereByTheGrace]

Fight will last less than 5 minutes imo

[THEBUTCH]

It's true the Tete loss was a while back, but Tete is nowhere near the fighter that Inoue is...Tete would also get smashed in double quick time by The Monster.

The only question for me is "how" Butler loses ?

At 34-2 he's as experienced & ready as he's ever going to be, but I'm wondering if this will end up as stomach churning to watch as Paul Lloyd's dismissal by Marco Antonio Barerra

[Spud]

The only question for me is "how" Butler loses ?

Joe Gallacher needs to make sure Butler gets paid well.

I have a feeling Inoue’s japanese promters will win the purse bids

[THEBUTCH]

Absolutely ! And in that regard you can't blame, or begrudge, Butler the chance of a big pay day.

Butler always tries his best, although that will only play into Inoue's hands IMO.

[Lenny Cravats]

Fight will last less than 5 minutes imo

If it lasts 5 minutes, that's pretty much Butler 'winning'.

[Glass Joe]

The only question for me is "how" Butler loses ?

Joe Gallacher needs to make sure Butler gets paid well.

I have a feeling Inoue’s japanese promters will win the purse bids

Is Inoue still with Toprank?

[margaret thatcher]

wont be purse bids will it, it's not a mandatory defense

[Ruthless-RKO]

The only question for me is "how" Butler loses ?

Joe Gallacher needs to make sure Butler gets paid well.

I have a feeling Inoue’s japanese promters will win the purse bids

Is Inoue still with Toprank?

yes..

wont be purse bids will it, it's not a mandatory defense

That is correct.. What's Butler's highest purse? I don't reckon he's ever been on £1m purse, could be wrong?

[margaret thatcher]

1m? cant see him having come anywhere close to that

[maverick23]

Joe Gallacher needs to make sure Butler gets paid well.

I have a feeling Inoue’s japanese promters will win the purse bids

Is Inoue still with Toprank?

yes..

wont be purse bids will it, it's not a mandatory defense

That is correct.. What's Butler's highest purse? I don't reckon he's ever been on £1m purse, could be wrong?

I’d be surprised if he’s made £100k for a fight, let alone 10x that.

The purse bid for Casimero was won with $105k so Butler would have got 25% of that so would have worked out at c.£20,000 if the fight had happened. I assume he’d have got a similar purse after Casimero was pulled from the fight second time around.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Is Inoue still with Toprank?

yes..

wont be purse bids will it, it's not a mandatory defense

That is correct.. What's Butler's highest purse? I don't reckon he's ever been on £1m purse, could be wrong?

I’d be surprised if he’s made £100k for a fight, let alone 10x that.

Yeh, I was just throwing it out there.. Surely he an his team will accept between £250k to £500k...

[Ruthless-RKO]

1m? cant see him having come anywhere close to that

Yeh, I was just throwing it out there..

[Dioufy]

His purse be given on the terms of other doomed Brits fighting monsters.

Depending where Butty lives he will “want a house” with his purse. Not a bad demand but it’s just cashing out.

His purse for an Inoue 4 belt fight will get him around 300/400k and he will be going to Saitama.

[Ruthless-RKO]

His purse be given on the terms of other doomed Brits fighting monsters.

Depending where Butty lives he will “want a house” with his purse. Not a bad demand but it’s just cashing out.

His purse for an Inoue 4 belt fight will get him around 300/400k and he will be going to Saitama.

Take out all his expenses? trainer/manager, tax, flights, hotel etc..

What you reckon he's left with?

[Glass Joe]

His purse be given on the terms of other doomed Brits fighting monsters.

Depending where Butty lives he will “want a house” with his purse. Not a bad demand but it’s just cashing out.

His purse for an Inoue 4 belt fight will get him around 300/400k and he will be going to Saitama.

Take out all his expenses? trainer/manager, tax, flights, hotel etc..

What you reckon he's left with?

Poor money for Butler if he doesn't come away with at least a million after every deduction. Thou you could argue that he was gifted a world title, a no name and fighting in a lower weight class.

[Ruthless-RKO]

His purse be given on the terms of other doomed Brits fighting monsters.

Depending where Butty lives he will “want a house” with his purse. Not a bad demand but it’s just cashing out.

His purse for an Inoue 4 belt fight will get him around 300/400k and he will be going to Saitama.

Take out all his expenses? trainer/manager, tax, flights, hotel etc..

What you reckon he's left with?

Poor money for Butler if he doesn't come away with at least a million after every deduction. Thou you could argue that he was gifted a world title, a no name and fighting in a lower weight class.

After all reductions to come out with £1m? That seems like a high purse..

mind you, it's a 4 belt unification. 12% alone just on sanction fees too..

[Glass Joe]

Guess you need to compare it what Donaire got for the fight.. Anyone know?

[Glass Joe]

Naoya Inoue vs Nonito Donaire 2 Purse Payouts
The purse payouts details of Inoue vs Donaire rematch confirmed as the PPV details and guaranteed purses reported. Moreover, the sponsorships and other bonuses also revealed.

Guaranteed Purse | Inoue will pocket a guaranteed purse of $350k for defending his bantamweight titles while Donaire will take home $125k as the guaranteed purse of the fight.

PPV Share Revenue | PPV share revenue for both boxers will be in the ratio of 60% and 40%. Sky Sports is holding the TV coverage rights.

Total Payouts | The total payout of Inoue will cross the mark of $500k whereas that of Donaire will receive $250k, if the PPV sales reached the proposed mark.

Boxers Guaranteed Purse PPV Share Total Payouts
Naoya Inoue $350k 60% $500k
Nonito Donaire $125k 40% $250k

this is what the internet says

[Ruthless-RKO]

Naoya Inoue vs Nonito Donaire 2 Purse Payouts
The purse payouts details of Inoue vs Donaire rematch confirmed as the PPV details and guaranteed purses reported. Moreover, the sponsorships and other bonuses also revealed.

Guaranteed Purse | Inoue will pocket a guaranteed purse of $350k for defending his bantamweight titles while Donaire will take home $125k as the guaranteed purse of the fight.

PPV Share Revenue | PPV share revenue for both boxers will be in the ratio of 60% and 40%. Sky Sports is holding the TV coverage rights.

Total Payouts | The total payout of Inoue will cross the mark of $500k whereas that of Donaire will receive $250k, if the PPV sales reached the proposed mark.

Boxers Guaranteed Purse PPV Share Total Payouts
Naoya Inoue $350k 60% $500k
Nonito Donaire $125k 40% $250k

this is what the internet says

I don't believe that website, they make guestimates based on previous purses. So there is a small truth to them but not accurate..