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JackSprocket wrote: ↑02 Jul 2022, 16:12

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Jul 2022, 22:53

JackSprocket wrote: ↑01 Jul 2022, 05:16 I scored it 115-114 for Bivol but I had been drinking... I should watch it again.

Either you were drunk, or don't know shit about boxing. Perhaps both.

Damn. The hostility.

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 10:51 please rewatch those rounds u gave to canelo without counting canelo's punches that hit bivol's guard as landed but as blocked as the rules say so(doesn't matter which ones they actually were, cause fact of the matter is that canelo won zip rounds. zip. zero. 0. nulla. not a single one. period.

Bandog wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 14:26

adislav123 wrote: ↑03 Jul 2022, 10:51 please rewatch those rounds u gave to canelo without counting canelo's punches that hit bivol's guard as landed but as blocked as the rules say so(doesn't matter which ones they actually were, cause fact of the matter is that canelo won zip rounds. zip. zero. 0. nulla. not a single one. period.

Judges were guilty of that in several of Canelo fights. Lara was one. I think they counted some misses as well.
Bivol fight was simply just too wide to justify their corruption. They still made it razor thin so not to piss off as many $people$.
Some say Canelo improved so much after Floyd, but he hasn't. He's just been more selective of opponents, and timed things right. He has a great looking resume though. Bivol was a mistake. In general, most people are stupid, easily fooled..in the U.S. at least.

JackSprocket wrote: ↑02 Jul 2022, 16:12

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Jul 2022, 22:53

JackSprocket wrote: ↑01 Jul 2022, 05:16 I scored it 115-114 for Bivol but I had been drinking... I should watch it again.

Either you were drunk, or don't know shit about boxing. Perhaps both.

Damn. The hostility.

apollo creed wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 15:56 Bivol said that he wants in rematch to be treated like a champion. Bivol needs to have a strong word in selecting the judges otherwise he'd get jobbed big f. time in rematch.

squiggy wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 12:01

apollo creed wrote: ↑05 Jul 2022, 15:56 Bivol said that he wants in rematch to be treated like a champion. Bivol needs to have a strong word in selecting the judges otherwise he'd get jobbed big f. time in rematch.

If I were Bivol I'd have no interest in a rematch whatsoever. His victory was completely convincing, there's still a really strong chance of getting screwed over on the cards in a second fight, and he clearly has better options against real light heavyweights.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 13:58 I scored the fight recently and I have to admit, not being a Canelo fan, this fight was pretty darn close on my cards. I had it 8-4 but there were a few rounds that traditionally would have gone to Canelo had the judges not been as good as the crew that they put together for this one. 2 rounds go the other way on cards and we are looking at a draw or worse, a Canelo win.

Here’s why I think Canelo wins the rematch. If you watch the Bivol fight, Canelo aborted any and all head movement which is really F’ng surprising bc it’s really been one of his top attribute recently. Nothing. No head movement plus loading up on so many meaningless shots easily defended by Bivol. I honestly didn’t see any clear head shots absorbed by Bivol throughout the whole fight. It was like Canelo failed to game plan for this cat and started swinging for the fences bc his power late has always saved his bacon. Not this time. Bivol just stayed snapping the jab and the defensive awareness he presented was one of the best thst I’ve ever seen in a huge fight. He was on the cell phone in both ears and nothing got through. It must have been so frustrating for Canelo.

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 12:38 Had it a draw or close?

Maybe Canelo's mum.

adislav123 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 14:03

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 12:38 Had it a draw or close?

Maybe Canelo's mum.

canelo himself actually thought he won clearly and the judges favoured bivol

watch the post fight presser. unbelievable.

adislav123 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 14:03

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 12:38 Had it a draw or close?

Maybe Canelo's mum.

canelo himself actually thought he won clearly and the judges favoured bivol

watch the post fight presser. unbelievable.

Bandog wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 14:57

adislav123 wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 14:03

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑07 Jul 2022, 12:38 Had it a draw or close?

Maybe Canelo's mum.

canelo himself actually thought he won clearly and the judges favoured bivol

watch the post fight presser. unbelievable.

That how their mindset develops after being surrounded by a bunch of yes men, that are afraid to upset the diva by being honest with him. I doubt if it will change now, but think he would benefit from a new team and trainer.

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 15:51

caldo2025 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 13:58 I scored the fight recently and I have to admit, not being a Canelo fan, this fight was pretty darn close on my cards. I had it 8-4 but there were a few rounds that traditionally would have gone to Canelo had the judges not been as good as the crew that they put together for this one. 2 rounds go the other way on cards and we are looking at a draw or worse, a Canelo win.

Here’s why I think Canelo wins the rematch. If you watch the Bivol fight, Canelo aborted any and all head movement which is really F’ng surprising bc it’s really been one of his top attribute recently. Nothing. No head movement plus loading up on so many meaningless shots easily defended by Bivol. I honestly didn’t see any clear head shots absorbed by Bivol throughout the whole fight. It was like Canelo failed to game plan for this cat and started swinging for the fences bc his power late has always saved his bacon. Not this time. Bivol just stayed snapping the jab and the defensive awareness he presented was one of the best thst I’ve ever seen in a huge fight. He was on the cell phone in both ears and nothing got through. It must have been so frustrating for Canelo.

Canelo probably won 2 rounds. Bivol would be better prepared in rematch too. What I've noticed is that Bivol's footwork is the key to the victory. Canelo head and waist movement , baits and feints ain't gonna work against a naturally 175 lbs version of Lara in Bivol.

Canelo has stiff legs and a short reach. He could win the rematch if he'd try to fight negative, pot-shot and rely on very biased judging.

caldo2025 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2022, 11:10

apollo creed wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 15:51

caldo2025 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022, 13:58 I scored the fight recently and I have to admit, not being a Canelo fan, this fight was pretty darn close on my cards. I had it 8-4 but there were a few rounds that traditionally would have gone to Canelo had the judges not been as good as the crew that they put together for this one. 2 rounds go the other way on cards and we are looking at a draw or worse, a Canelo win.

Here’s why I think Canelo wins the rematch. If you watch the Bivol fight, Canelo aborted any and all head movement which is really F’ng surprising bc it’s really been one of his top attribute recently. Nothing. No head movement plus loading up on so many meaningless shots easily defended by Bivol. I honestly didn’t see any clear head shots absorbed by Bivol throughout the whole fight. It was like Canelo failed to game plan for this cat and started swinging for the fences bc his power late has always saved his bacon. Not this time. Bivol just stayed snapping the jab and the defensive awareness he presented was one of the best thst I’ve ever seen in a huge fight. He was on the cell phone in both ears and nothing got through. It must have been so frustrating for Canelo.

Canelo probably won 2 rounds. Bivol would be better prepared in rematch too. What I've noticed is that Bivol's footwork is the key to the victory. Canelo head and waist movement , baits and feints ain't gonna work against a naturally 175 lbs version of Lara in Bivol.

Canelo has stiff legs and a short reach. He could win the rematch if he'd try to fight negative, pot-shot and rely on very biased judging.

I think that you need to watch it again, Bud. Bivol really only had 4 clear winning rounds that were way too obvious to steal from him. The rest really depended upon what the judges were prepared to score. I’d say that Bivol did slightly better than Lara did with Canelo and yes people definitely complained about that result but it was a stealable decision as I believe this one clearly was. You could tell by the surprised corner of Bivol. Just my opinion which sucks a lot of the time I’ll admit.

Bandog wrote: ↑13 Jul 2022, 20:46 According to Compubox, there was not a single round that Canelo out landed Bivol. Bivol basically doubled Canelo in terms of total punches landed,

Compubox at least gives us an indication about how the fight went.