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KiwiRider wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 21:49

gregregegg wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 19:45

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 19:34

greg loves some conor koolaid

Na I hate people over cutting. Teo Lopez, josh Taylor, dillashaw in the ufc. People cut too much there output and/or chins go… but also serve me up a glass of that Connor Benn punch.

Your entitled to your opinions.
I am very wary of betting on weight drained fighters. We will have to wait for the weigh in to be sure on who is or isn't hollowed out.

Exactly, I’ll go a step further on waiting, If I bet on this, it won’t be until weigh ins. Can you imagine betting on benn and eubank coming in way over weight and just paying a fine… heart breaker.

And I’ll only bet Connor if odds are juicey and eubank looks drained. Or if eubank looks fine and Connor looks soft I may bet the other way.

It’s an interesting one. First glance it’s a wtf mismatch and they’re throwing their golden goose to the wolves. But I’m guessing Benn’s mob really think he can win - his confidence is through the roof ..come fight day I think we’re all gonna be tuning in, to either see a shocking reality check for the brash smash and grab Londoner ( like his dad had years ago ) or to see if he can pull off a miracle - non boxing fans and casuals will be talking about boxing again, and that’s good for the game. Let’s just hope it’s a good fight even if it’s short, violent & only competitive for 3 rounds, and the favourite wins.

I’m not gonna get annoyed about this, theres a hell of a lot worse in the game, maybe I’ll just suspend disbelief ( like I'm expecting AJ to win ) and wait and see what happens. I just won’t be betting

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 19:42 conor was blitzing though cherrypicked opponents who offered little risk of a 2 way fight. only so long he could do that as people calling for better opposition.........instead of taking on a world level or even fringe world level guy in his own division, in other words the natural progression fights, he now fights a middle/super middle

fair play for taking a challenge, but to me it reads like his team werent confident in him getting by tougher welter tests, so decided to go straight for the eubank big fight before he took an L for much less

Yes. The way I see it.
Blatant build up the hype then cash in before any risks.

It just grates that it's two kids from millionaire parents getting this opportunity. Both given golden opportunities from the start simply because of their dads.

Be interesting to see size difference when they first go head to head. Always thought Eubank looked way too small for SMW so not a huge MW.

Couple of inches between them? Jr not that heavily muscled. Size wise it may not be as huge a mismatch as seems on paper..... but ezperience and the fact that Jr has been in with these bigger guys for so long, be a hard night for Benn.

Great fight sign me right up, Eubank Jr is a tough strong durable middleweight but hardly Hagler, wise move from him he'll be heavy favourite and will make a lot of money, same for Benn even if he gets blitzed, he'll always rebuild back down at Welter with no too much damage to his rep apart from the lazy cliche that moving up ruined him, we got same rubbish with Brook when he moved back down to fight Spence when truth is Kell never lived the life and probably never beats Spence


Fighters get knocked out and smashed all the time, heavyweights regularly fight with several stone in between weights but nobody cares because they somehow think science was behind the heavyweight division weight limits

Benn wants to move up, Eubank wants to drain himself, let them, they're being paid a sh1t load of money and I'm already head first into this , I can't wait, means nothing to the landscape but it's a great fight, the build ups gonna be epic

Bigdogsnose wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 03:10 Be interesting to see size difference when they first go head to head. Always thought Eubank looked way too small for SMW so not a huge MW.

Couple of inches between them? Jr not that heavily muscled. Size wise it may not be as huge a mismatch as seems on paper..... but ezperience and the fact that Jr has been in with these bigger guys for so long, be a hard night for Benn.

I think that's it. How the look when they walk in the ring might decide it. Not sure whether there's hydration clauses or anything but Benn could look much smaller come fight day, would just have to wait and see.

Sorry guys not read through the thread.

What weight has the fight been made at and is there a clause in the contract what Eubank has to weigh on the morning of the fight.

Its all very well thinking Eubank is the bigger man who should eventually wear down benn but have the weight restrictions swung the fight in favour of benn?

Spud wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 04:20 Sorry guys not read through the thread.

What weight has the fight been made at and is there a clause in the contract what Eubank has to weigh on the morning of the fight.

Its all very well thinking Eubank is the bigger man who should eventually wear down benn but have the weight restrictions swung the fight in favour of benn?

The only thing that’s been confirmed to us is the weight will be 156.

No mention of clauses as of yet. I’m sure there is.

MightyWarrior wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 02:14 But I’m guessing Benn’s mob really think he can win - his confidence is through the roof ..

the last time I remember this kind of wishful thinking, CEJ was taking a step up in weight to fight The Man Who Will Be Blamed.

I couldn't see any grounds for that, either.

Conor Benn vs. Chris Eubank Jr. Finalized - October 8 in London, DAZN

One of the best rivalries in modern British boxing history has officially entered the next generation.

BS.com has confirmed that plans are finalized for a showdown between Conor Benn and Chris Eubank Jr. The long-discussed grudge match is now set to headline an October 8 DAZN Pay-Per-View from The O2 in London.

The fight will be streamed worldwide on DAZN and DAZN PPV in the UK and Ireland.

The pairing comes 29 years almost to the day of the October 1993 rematch between Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank Sr., when the two fought to a draw in front of an announced crowd of 47,000 at Old Trafford Stadium in Manchester, England. The famed rematch came nearly three years after Eubank stopped Benn in the ninth-round of their November 1990 WBO middleweight title fight in Birmingham, England.

“I can’t quite believe this is happening but let me tell you, it’s happening!” said Eddie Hearn, Matchroom Sport Chairman. “Weeks of negotiations have led to one of the biggest moments in British boxing - these two Born Rivals will do battle in an epic match up that has absolutely everything. Ever since they both turned professional, people talked about this moment and now is the time to see the historic rivalry continue.”

Eubank Sr. dethroned Benn for the WBO middleweight title in the first fight, with the stakes raised for the rematch. Eubank entered with the WBO super middleweight title, aiming to unify with the elder Benn who held the WBC middleweight title at the time.

No belt will be at stake for the second-generation bout, which comes at an agreed upon catchweight of 156 pounds. Benn (21-0, 14 KOs) has fought at welterweight dating back to his April 2016 pro debut, which also took place at The O2. Eubank Jr. (32-2, 23 KOs)—who was just one at the time of the first Eubank-Benn fight and four years old at the time of the rematch—has fought primarily at middleweight and super middleweight since turning pro in November 2011. The agreed-upon catchweight will mark the lightest that Eubank has fought, more than two pounds below his current career-low 158 ¼ pounds in October 2014.

The heaviest that Benn has previously weighed for a sanction fight was in April 2019, when he officially checked in at 148 ½ pounds in an eight-round win over Josef Zahradnik. The 25-year-old has weighed between 146-146 ¾ pounds for each of his last seven starts, entering this fight off a second-round knockout of Chris Van Heerden on April 16 at AO Arena in Manchester.

“This fight is for the legacy and was an opportunity I felt I couldn't pass up,” said Benn. “My team and I had other options on the table as I'm currently ranked top 5 with all governing bodies at Welterweight and no doubt I'm looking for a World Championship fight very soon, but this fight is embedded with so much history and I know it's one the public really want to see. To me this fight is personal - it's more than titles and rankings, this is unfinished business between our families!

“Born Rivals is the perfect calling for this fight, because we have always been associated and I've always been asked if we'd ever fight, and now I can't wait for the world to be able to watch us make that happen. All I know is that from my side, this will be an all-out war, last man standing kind of fight. Neither will give up until the last bell rings. I won't be looking to take this to the score cards though, this will be explosive from the off. I'm so up for this.”

Eubank Jr. has weighed at or just under the super middleweight limit during a six-fight campaign in that division. The run included a two-fight stint in the World Boxing Super Series tournament, where he advanced to the semifinal round before losing a twelve-round decision to countryman George Groves with the WBA super middleweight title fight at stake—his lone major title fight to date.

The super middleweight stretch ended with a twelve-round decision over former IBF titlist James DeGale in February 2019 before returning to middleweight later that year. Just four fights have followed, including a twelve-round nod over Wales’ Liam Williams. Eubank Jr. scored four knockdowns en route to winning by scores of 116-108, 116-108 and 117-109 in their February 2022 clash.

The 32-year-old has since spent much of the year calling out several big names but mainly fixated on domestic grudge matches with Benn and former welterweight titlist Kell Brook. The former has finally transpired, leaving both sides with unfinished business.

“I grew up watching their legendary battles and always wanting to emulate that, and find my own arch nemesis… could this now be Conor Benn? We will find out,” said Eubank Jr. "He has walked the same path as I have. I know his struggle. Living in the shadow of a legend and trying to break out of that shadow and make his own name. If he can beat me, his name will be made, and he will never walk in his father’s shadow again.

“It’s a fight that’s going to spark the imagination of the British public, that’s what I’m happy about. In terms of anticipation, legacy and hype it’s the biggest fight of my career.”

Benn was not born at the time of either fight between the famous fathers and was just six weeks old by the time Nigel Benn fought for the last time in November 1996. Eubank Sr. fought until 1998, nearly pulling off a massive upset in a WBO cruiserweight title bid versus Carl Thompson before suffering the lone stoppage defeat of his career, when he was forced to retire on his stool after the ninth round of their July 1998 rematch.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑09 Aug 2022, 19:42 conor was blitzing though cherrypicked opponents who offered little risk of a 2 way fight. only so long he could do that as people calling for better opposition.........instead of taking on a world level or even fringe world level guy in his own division, in other words the natural progression fights, he now fights a middle/super middle

fair play for taking a challenge, but to me it reads like his team werent confident in him getting by tougher welter tests, so decided to go straight for the eubank big fight before he took an L for much less

THIS ,, Agree its a very well thought out fight , wins , Jeez there will be no living with them ,,, He loses , its because he was brave to jump up weight , to give the fans the fight of the century ,, BOTH far better options than fighting the likes of Ennis to see who's gonna be num 3 or 4 ,, Don't normaly bet on fights but it depends with this one , if Eubank comes in looking like skelator , i will summise he is going to go in there to pick up a payday and risk getting ko'ed ,, If he' looks in good shape i'm gonna stick a ton on him

It's only really the Eubank weight issue that makes this competitive isn't it?

Given that Eubank was a level about Liam Williams this year and has shown a great pair of whiskers, whereas Benn continues to look ragged but reliant on power against feather fisted 147ers, I can only see this being competitive if Eubank has real trouble making weight.....which he may well do of course.

I wonder how much the PPV will be ? We have a cost of living crisis, bills going up all the time and what we all need is another PPV to rinse a few quid off of people.

Eubank isn't a big middleweight..

He wasn't a big super middleweight either..

tony1234 wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 05:55 I wonder how much the PPV will be ? We have a cost of living crisis, bills going up all the time and what we all need is another PPV to rinse a few quid off of people.

Yeh, I bet they're sat down now trying to figure out how not to further piss people off, but they're too late.

Everyone thought the whole point of subbing to DAZN and paying a fixed monthly fee was to avoid paying for PPV'S.

Thing is now, win or lose, Benn will probably fight PPV going forward

Conor’s going to be roided to the gills for this one

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 06:00 Conor’s going to be roided to the gills for this one

Best getting advice from AJ!

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 05:57

Thing is now, win or lose, Benn will probably fight PPV going forward

mmm they love to set those precedents don't they 'Conor is a ppv fighter now' fkin wankers

Anyone on here looking at going?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 07:31 Anyone on here looking at going?

Yeah - I’ll try and get tickets. A couple of my casual boxing fan friends have already messaged about going.

maverick23 wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 08:08

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 07:31 Anyone on here looking at going?

Yeah - I’ll try and get tickets. A couple of my casual boxing fan friends have already messaged about going.

Yeh, my brother in law has messaged me as well..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 07:31 Anyone on here looking at going?

Good Lord, no. I doubt I'll even watch it. It's a great big bubble of hype, which I am resisting in the same way as Bellew-Cleverly II and Chisora-anyone.

Benn has won no major titles at all, although those seven (yes, count them, seven) big defences of his WBA Continental welter title give him the kind of experience that the silly British, Commonwealth, European route simply cannot buy. Eubank Jr is a four-time, two-weight world champion on the thinnest of grounds (WBA interim middle, IBO super middle, both twice), but at least he's won the British title and fought some good people. Outside Youtube fighters, I'm struggling to think of a PPV with a worse combined resume for the headliners - is there one?

Unless the weight completely drains Eubank, isn't this just a very one-sided contest - goodish big man beats moderate smaller man?

garethhop wrote: ↑10 Aug 2022, 05:51 It's only really the Eubank weight issue that makes this competitive isn't it?

Given that Eubank was a level about Liam Williams this year and has shown a great pair of whiskers, whereas Benn continues to look ragged but reliant on power against feather fisted 147ers, I can only see this being competitive if Eubank has real trouble making weight.....which he may well do of course.

This. Though I wouldn't be shocked if Eubank is playing a bit of a Haye vs Enzo Mac game and actually makes the weight easier than expected... and proceeds to give Benn a beating.

Not a chance in hell I am paying to watch this drivel.

Is Hearn putting his desire to keep Dazn afloat ahead of Benn's best interests? A promoter serving himself not the fighter is hardly a revelation in this septic sport but this could backfire significantly in terms of Conor's career. If he carries his power CEJ has a nasty cumulative dig so it could be a long gruelling night for the lighter man.