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if i had to guess, i think aj's next opponent will be hrgovic or chisora

i like the joyce fight, but i'd guess they want an easier option than joyce would seem if he beats parker. joyce with rival promoter fwank and network bt too. miller is probably considered too unreliable, same thing for ortiz

Who cares? I’m more interested to see if Fury fights Usyk.

not mutually exclusive my man, im still interested

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 15:19 if i had to guess, i think aj's next opponent will be hrgovic or chisora

i like the joyce fight, but i'd guess they want an easier option than joyce would seem if he beats parker. joyce with rival promoter fwank and network bt too. miller is probably considered too unreliable, same thing for ortiz

I could see Del Boy, but I can’t imagine Hrg would be interested in a non-title AJ fight at this point in his career, following his showing with Zhang.

punchoutsb wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 16:53

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 15:19 if i had to guess, i think aj's next opponent will be hrgovic or chisora

i like the joyce fight, but i'd guess they want an easier option than joyce would seem if he beats parker. joyce with rival promoter fwank and network bt too. miller is probably considered too unreliable, same thing for ortiz

I could see Del Boy, but I can’t imagine Hrg would be interested in a non-title AJ fight at this point in his career, following his showing with Zhang.

why not? aj is big money. hrg wouldnt get nearly as much getting beat by usyk in an ibf shot

if hrg's almost getting beat by guys like zhang, he better take a big money offer when he gets one

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 16:55

punchoutsb wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 16:53

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 15:19 if i had to guess, i think aj's next opponent will be hrgovic or chisora

i like the joyce fight, but i'd guess they want an easier option than joyce would seem if he beats parker. joyce with rival promoter fwank and network bt too. miller is probably considered too unreliable, same thing for ortiz

I could see Del Boy, but I can’t imagine Hrg would be interested in a non-title AJ fight at this point in his career, following his showing with Zhang.

why not? aj is big money. hrg wouldnt get nearly as much getting beat by usyk in an ibf shot

if hrg's almost getting beat by guys like zhang, he better take a big money offer when he gets one

Makes sense, but he’s been treading water so long that…actually you know what, I’ve never been able to figure out what they’re doing with his career so maybe he would take it.

Now that I think about it... with Chisora being in AJ's corner, I don't see them ever fighting (unless a title's involved)

So...
Scenario A:
I could see Daniel Dubois (WBA-ish) vs Chisora (Winter)
AJ vs Whyte 2 (December)

And then the winners facing each other late Spring 2023

Meanwhile...
Scenario B:
Wilder-Helenius (Fall)
Ruiz-Ortiz (Fall)

As long as Wilder & Ortiz are NOT both victorious (for me, a 3rd fight is unappealing) the winners face each other early Spring 2023

By this time, Fury/Usyk will have been sorted out (hopefully by winter), 1 stands as the reigning champion and can choose between the winner(s) of scenario A and B...

2 issues:
A) The Fury/Usyk winner retires. If that's the case, Scenario A & B winners can face each other, chase belts, etc
B) Parker/Joyce winner... Parker and Fury will never fight, but I welcome Parker-Usyk or Joyce-Fury/Usyk while the above scenarios are sorted out

Unfortunately, guys like Otto Wallin, Frank Sanchez, Bakole, Hunter, Hrgovic, Ali Demire...(sp?)... they'll be looking for opponents, perhaps interim or vacated titles, but not the MAJOR fights... yet.

Efe Ajagba as a warmup to another big fight. if he doesn't get smoked by the slow Nigerian.

Needs to get down to 224 pounds since usyk proved lighter fighters are better

I think Fast Car needs to get his check book and the big money out to convince Gary Cornish to come out of retirement. The British public demand it!

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 22:11 Needs to get down to 224 pounds since usyk proved lighter fighters are better

wrighty wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 09:47 I think Fast Car needs to get his check book and the big money out to convince Gary Cornish to come out of retirement. The British public demand it!

He's been frozen out now.

K2 promoter confirmed they have no other commitments with Hearn.

The last fight in the co-promotional deal was the Chisora fight.

Top Rank promotes Fury, Frank promotes him in the UK..

K2 will go where the best offers are and cus they not linked to any UK networks.

Bandog wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 11:48 A fight I'd love to see is AJ vs Luis Ortiz, if Ortiz beats fat Andy. I think AJ would win, but in a tough fight. Ortiz still top 10, but getting old. Good scalp, and set up for a Wilder fight.

Nothing against Ortiz but let's be honest, he is well and truly old already.

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 19:34 He could quit
He could just go on and no longer be in the top echelon.

He is, by today's highly suspect Boxrec ranking system, still a top 5 P4P!

squiggy wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 12:00

oogiebe wrote: ↑21 Aug 2022, 19:34 He could quit
He could just go on and no longer be in the top echelon.

He is, by today's highly suspect Boxrec ranking system, still a top 5 P4P!

Boxrec's 2-4 ;have now lost 6 of the last 9 fights.

If I were Joshuas handlers, I'd keep him away with anybody with a massive punch.

I am not sure he is ever going to be the same fighter - I suspect not, I think getting pasted by Ruiz ruined him mentally, but throwing him in with Wilder now would be insane, same with Dubois, Joshua might win either fight, but he might also get steamrollered, as he seems to have serious issues with putting together sustained attacks.

so the lesson is dont put him in with a puncher, and dont put him in with a boxer

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 14:35 so the lesson is dont put him in with a puncher, and dont put him in with a boxer

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 14:35 so the lesson is dont put him in with a puncher, and dont put him in with a boxer

That leaves Joe Joyce who can't do either.

Cent0089 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 07:00 He is at his prime and has at least 2 more prime years ahead of him. He is real talent, people tend to underestimate him because of losses.

His “Prime” was before he got rag-dolled by Ruiz. Sadly, those days are gone. Hearn will paint a different picture, his trainer will endorse the narrative. They will be the winners. Joshua will continue to be the loser while paying their cheques. And so it will go on…..
Legacy ?
Nah. They’re just milking the brand….
The 2nd meltdown (Ruiz mic grab was the first don’t forget “I’m a soldier” speech). will be glossed over by Fast Eddie.

Wilder will be avoided, yet again
As will Tyson Fury
Look at an easier stay relevant fight (after the impending match-ups)

The hope upon hope that Fury and/or Usyk vacate/retire or both

Maybe get a match up for a vacant belt versus the easiest oppo available.

“And the three time Heavyweight Champion of The World!!!!”

Legacy like Ali, Holyfield, Lewis…. Right up there

They will be the facts, history and hyperbole
Y’all know it

Noxy wrote: ↑22 Aug 2022, 15:50 Who cares? I’m more interested to see if Fury fights Usyk.

Don't torture yourself.
Your bound to be disappointed.

Styles make fights and Usyk is no match for Fury. With Fury being a nice guy really I expect him to toy with and to humiliate Usyk for 12 if they get into the ring together instead of brutally dismantling him.

Best fight that can be made at HW in my opinion is Fury vs Joshua.

H8Usernames wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 16:27 Styles make fights and Usyk is no match for Fury. With Fury being a nice guy really I expect him to toy with and to humiliate Usyk for 12 if they get into the ring together instead of brutally dismantling him.

Best fight that can be made at HW in my opinion is Fury vs Joshua.

Nice guy and humiliate him? In the ring there shouldn’t be any nice guys.
Do we really need to see Fury/AJ now? To what end?

si7dog7 wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 16:31

H8Usernames wrote: ↑23 Aug 2022, 16:27 Styles make fights and Usyk is no match for Fury. With Fury being a nice guy really I expect him to toy with and to humiliate Usyk for 12 if they get into the ring together instead of brutally dismantling him.

Best fight that can be made at HW in my opinion is Fury vs Joshua.

Nice guy and humiliate him? In the ring there shouldn’t be any nice guys.
Do we really need to see Fury/AJ now? To what end?

So Mike Tyson should have knocked RJjr out?

I dunno. This Usyk Fury fight is just a mismatch, they should make it an exhibition if they are gonna make it at all.

Is it your opinion that Fury should try to knock Usyk out asap or should he torture him for 12 rounds like Muhammad Ali did vs Ernie Terrell?

I believe that Anthony Joshua probably has the best shot of any active heavyweight to beat Tyson Fury. I'd watch it.

Hughie fury is still on the upswing given his age, maybe he fights aj in a crossroads fight