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samwbr wrote: ↑07 Oct 2022, 14:58 No one ever tests positive by accident for anything that might not be any good for performance do they.

But according to the Connor Benn camp, you can have an adverse result

I believe it boils down to who you are and how much money you make for people. Saul Alvarez pisses hot for clenbuterol, mentions that it's from tainted beef, gets a 6 month ban. Liam Cameron does beak on a night out and his career is over.

From twitter:

•Tyson Fury - Nandrolone
•Canelo Alvarez - Clenbuterol
•Luis Nery - Zilpaterol
•Dillian Whyte - Methylhexaneamine
•Jarrell Miller - GW1516
•Kid Galahad - Stanozolol
•Eric Molina - Dexamethasone
•Bermane Stiverne - Methylhexanamine
•Billy Joe Saunders - Oxilofrine
•Luis Ortiz - Hydrochlorothiazide
•Alexander Povetkin - Meldonium
•Tony Yoka - Missed three drug tests.
•Yuriorkis Gamboa - HGH

Rio Ferdinand

Holyfield receiving packages of Human Growth Hormone in 1994. Roy Jones and Richard Hall.

Larry Olubamiwo sued UKAD because they lost the 3000 steroid pills he gave them, UKAD said they would give them back to him once he had retired from boxing.
Larry won £227 off UKAD in small claims court.
I think this proves the whole system if broke

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailym ... gency.html

polecateddy wrote: ↑08 Oct 2022, 07:16 Holyfield receiving packages of Human Growth Hormone in 1994. Roy Jones and Richard Hall.

Ah yes, Holy used the undetectable pseudonym of Evan Field.

i did take the first batch of Jack 3D when it first came out and that stuff was amazing lol. deffo would have failed a test on that stuff

Glass Joe wrote: ↑08 Oct 2022, 13:39 i did take the first batch of Jack 3D when it first came out and that stuff was amazing lol. deffo would have failed a test on that stuff

I used to get that in Australia. Crazy stuff! Not really surprised people were having heart attacks off it. Think it’s still available but it’s a very toned down version.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑08 Oct 2022, 13:39 i did take the first batch of Jack 3D when it first came out and that stuff was amazing lol. deffo would have failed a test on that stuff

Dillian Whyte got a 2 year ban for it.

yes, it was like legal meth, felt amazing and felt like you are going to die at the same time

Glass Joe wrote: ↑08 Oct 2022, 17:26 yes, it was like legal meth, felt amazing and felt like you are going to die at the same time

I snorted legal meth once, it was a fooking madman.

Wasn't there something somewhere about Oscar Rivas failing tests in the run up to the Whyte fight?

i thought that was unfounded nonsense put out there by whyte to try to mitigate his own ped problems with that fight

Yeh that was Spencer X who started that rumour

Didn't Mayweather get caught out using something that's acts as a 'masking agent' once?
Not banned in it's own right, but needs to be signed of before you can use it.
Looks like just about everyone is at it, some just have very clever ways of getting around the tests.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Oct 2022, 15:03

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Oct 2022, 14:58 No one ever tests positive by accident for anything that might not be any good for performance do they.

But according to the Connor Benn camp, you can have an adverse result

They also keep referring to it as a "VADA test" is if it isn't a proper test or somehow doesn't count

samwbr wrote: ↑07 Oct 2022, 14:58 No one ever tests positive by accident for anything that might not be any good for performance do they.

A few have tested positive, and been punished, for cannabis, which is the opposite of a performance enhancer. Mike Tyson's NC with Golota is for that reason.

keirw wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 05:10 Didn't Mayweather get caught out using something that's acts as a 'masking agent' once?
Not banned in it's own right, but needs to be signed of before you can use it.
Looks like just about everyone is at it, some just have very clever ways of getting around the tests.

Aye he was doing intravenous infusions before getting his bloods and such taken. He was bang at it for sure. Same as Hopkins, who was on TRT for years.

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑11 Oct 2022, 16:03

keirw wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 05:10 Didn't Mayweather get caught out using something that's acts as a 'masking agent' once?
Not banned in it's own right, but needs to be signed of before you can use it.
Looks like just about everyone is at it, some just have very clever ways of getting around the tests.

Aye he was doing intravenous infusions before getting his bloods and such taken. He was bang at it for sure. Same as Hopkins, who was on TRT for years.

He only fought in Vegas too for many years, I'm sure that was something to do with his hands being injected with something that was illegal in every other state.

As he was small for a welter for quite some time and didn’t seem to grow as so many do even after 2 or 3 weights (according to hbo when they used to publish in ring weights) I used to assume Floyd wasn’t at it. Eg PAC in ring weight went from something like 138 (feather) 140 (first Morales fight) all the way to I think 151/2? vs Margarito and just under that (148ish?) for Cotto? He went up a full 10lbs in ring weight for welter and then put a bit more on I think

Floyd was 140 at super feather, I think 142 at lightweight (vs EG Castillo who was 147), not much more at 140, and I think I recall 146-8 at welter. Maybe 150 Didn’t seem so much and his body didn’t change. But I guess he was probably on it anyway of course HBO stopped giving his in ring weight or more accurately probably he stopped giving them

Post ‘retirement’ number 1 hell yeah he’s bang at it from then no doubt IMO

Controversial wrote: ↑11 Oct 2022, 16:15

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑11 Oct 2022, 16:03

keirw wrote: ↑09 Oct 2022, 05:10 Didn't Mayweather get caught out using something that's acts as a 'masking agent' once?
Not banned in it's own right, but needs to be signed of before you can use it.
Looks like just about everyone is at it, some just have very clever ways of getting around the tests.

Aye he was doing intravenous infusions before getting his bloods and such taken. He was bang at it for sure. Same as Hopkins, who was on TRT for years.

He only fought in Vegas too for many years, I'm sure that was something to do with his hands being injected with something that was illegal in every other state.

https://www.ringtv.com/398951-mayweathe ... s-answers/

Hell of a long list already.

Don't want to tarnish everyone but do we now assume that most (if not all) boxers at a certain level are on something?

Those not caught likely had medical exemptions. Pretty much every Olympic athlete has them.

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned Mike Tyson yet? I know it wasnt a ped per se but he failed a drugs test after Golota.