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Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 10 Jan 2023, 17:03
by Oiky
Thurman hasn't got nothing to offer Spence
Another waste of time fight for boxing
Get Spence vs Crawford on ffs
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 10 Jan 2023, 18:29
by Ruthless-RKO
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 10 Jan 2023, 19:15
by Bandog
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 16:40
Spence didn’t wanna give Thurman a shot.
Especially at 147.
But for him it’s better Thurman than Crawford.
Pretty sure we have have the belts at stake.
I remember the Mayweather-Mariana bout. Was at 154 and the 147 and 154 belts were on the line.
I've never heard that, and have to say no way can they do that. They can't sanction fights above the weight limit.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 10 Jan 2023, 19:40
by Ruthless-RKO
Bandog wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 19:15
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 16:40
Spence didn’t wanna give Thurman a shot.
Especially at 147.
But for him it’s better Thurman than Crawford.
Pretty sure we have have the belts at stake.
I remember the Mayweather-Mariana bout. Was at 154 and the 147 and 154 belts were on the line.
I've never heard that, and have to say no way can they do that. They can't sanction fights above the weight limit.
Unless the fight was at 147 and they sanctioned the 154 belts, cus technically it’s below the limit.
That’s probably what it was.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 10 Jan 2023, 21:53
by Bandog
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 19:40
Bandog wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 19:15
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 16:40
Spence didn’t wanna give Thurman a shot.
Especially at 147.
But for him it’s better Thurman than Crawford.
Pretty sure we have have the belts at stake.
I remember the Mayweather-Mariana bout. Was at 154 and the 147 and 154 belts were on the line.
I've never heard that, and have to say no way can they do that. They can't sanction fights above the weight limit.
Unless the fight was at 147 and they sanctioned the 154 belts, cus technically it’s below the limit.
That’s probably what it was.
BS article said none of Spence's titles are on the line. The weight is approved, but no belts.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 03:04
by gregregegg
Spence won’t go back down if he goes up.
If this fight is on they should just elevate boots to the real ibf champ and let boots and craw try do undisputed.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 05:07
by Ruthless-RKO
gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 03:04
Spence won’t go back down if he goes up.
If this fight is on they should just elevate boots to the real ibf champ and let boots and craw try do undisputed.
Shame. They don’t undisputed status.
I’m sure Crawford will join him.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 08:21
by Syntax Error
Is Spence getting aboard the Tommy Hearns weight hopping express, where he jumps up and down between weights, picking up trinkets here and there, or is Spence leaving 147 behind?
If it's the latter, then presumably the so-called undisputed superfight at 147 is dead in the water?
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 10:33
by Bandog
gregregegg wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 03:04
Spence won’t go back down if he goes up.
If this fight is on they should just elevate boots to the real ibf champ and let boots and craw try do undisputed.
Stanionis is the one getting screwed here. No way does Thurman jump ahead of him. If Spence is staying at 154, it won't matter. Thurman has done nothing to deserve this fight. It would be funny as hell if he won though.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 11:39
by IKSRTFO
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 16:40
Spence didn’t wanna give Thurman a shot.
Especially at 147.
But for him it’s better Thurman than Crawford.
Pretty sure we have have the belts at stake.
I remember the Mayweather-Mariana bout. Was at 154 and the 147 and 154 belts were on the line.
Your memory must be shot because Mayweather Maidana was at 147
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 12:11
by DrDuke
In front of the Crawford opportunity we don't need this f8cken bout.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 12:33
by Ruthless-RKO
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 11:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 16:40
Spence didn’t wanna give Thurman a shot.
Especially at 147.
But for him it’s better Thurman than Crawford.
Pretty sure we have have the belts at stake.
I remember the Mayweather-Mariana bout. Was at 154 and the 147 and 154 belts were on the line.
Your memory must be shot because Mayweather Maidana was at 147
We talking 8 years ago and if you bothered reading comments after, I realised it was 147.
I wasn’t wrong about the 147 and 154 belts being on the line.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 13:30
by apollo creed
spence is moving up and probably charlos too, they are big men fighting in lower weight classes to have an advantage, just smart business
TC is a smart cat too, milked the game very smartly
its crazy that people are spending their hard earned little money to see some c and b level fights
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 14:01
by gilgamesh
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 12:33
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 11:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 16:40
Spence didn’t wanna give Thurman a shot.
Especially at 147.
But for him it’s better Thurman than Crawford.
Pretty sure we have have the belts at stake.
I remember the Mayweather-Mariana bout. Was at 154 and the 147 and 154 belts were on the line.
Your memory must be shot because Mayweather Maidana was at 147
We talking 8 years ago and if you bothered reading comments after, I realised it was 147.
I wasn’t wrong about the 147 and 154 belts being on the line.
I don't recall any of Mayweather's fights where he was defending belts from 2 weight classes in the same fight.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 14:28
by irongloves
These days I favour Errol by stoppage.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 14:33
by gilgamesh
irongloves wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:28
These days I favour Errol by stoppage.
Either stoppage or 12 rounds to 0.
And he oughta stop Thurman.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 14:48
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:01
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 12:33
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 11:39
Your memory must be shot because Mayweather Maidana was at 147
We talking 8 years ago and if you bothered reading comments after, I realised it was 147.
I wasn’t wrong about the 147 and 154 belts being on the line.
I don't recall any of Mayweather's fights where he was defending belts from 2 weight classes in the same fight.
It’s says so on BoxRec
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 14:57
by gilgamesh
I personally don't care one way or the other, but it seems a little odd I'd say that you could win belts in 2 weight classes potentially off of 1 win. Although I know Leonard did it once, but that was partially a marketing decision to give the Super Middleweight division some cache.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 15:01
by Ruthless-RKO
gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:57
I personally don't care one way or the other, but it seems a little odd I'd say that you could win belts in 2 weight classes potentially off of 1 win. Although I know Leonard did it once, but that was partially a marketing decision to give the Super Middleweight division some cache.
Didn’t they do it for Davis-Santa Cruz?
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 15:03
by gilgamesh
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 15:01
gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:57
I personally don't care one way or the other, but it seems a little odd I'd say that you could win belts in 2 weight classes potentially off of 1 win. Although I know Leonard did it once, but that was partially a marketing decision to give the Super Middleweight division some cache.
Didn’t they do it for Davis-Santa Cruz?
I wouldn't doubt it.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 15:38
by KiwiRider
gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:33
irongloves wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:28
These days I favour Errol by stoppage.
Either stoppage or 12 rounds to 0.
And he oughta stop Thurman.
If ancient Manny, dropped and beat Thurman, then Spence will likely get it done by the halfway mark after a slow start.
It's a predetermined walkover, the sort of fight you watch the 2 minute highlight package later on.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 11 Jan 2023, 15:41
by gilgamesh
Yeah it's actually a little embarrassing for Spence if Thurman hears the final bell I think. That's how heavy a favorite he is here.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 12 Jan 2023, 01:57
by Evander
I'll get excited about it when they've signed and sealed on the dotted line, until then it's a rumour.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 19:51
by IKSRTFO
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 12:33
IKSRTFO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 11:39
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Jan 2023, 16:40
Spence didn’t wanna give Thurman a shot.
Especially at 147.
But for him it’s better Thurman than Crawford.
Pretty sure we have have the belts at stake.
I remember the Mayweather-Mariana bout. Was at 154 and the 147 and 154 belts were on the line.
Your memory must be shot because Mayweather Maidana was at 147
We talking 8 years ago and if you bothered reading comments after, I realised it was 147.
I wasn’t wrong about the 147 and 154 belts being on the line.
Yes you were. The 154 title wasn't on the line when Mayweather fought Maidana.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Keith Thurman - Being Finalized for 154
Posted: 15 Jan 2023, 19:54
by IKSRTFO
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:48
gilgamesh wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 14:01
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Jan 2023, 12:33
We talking 8 years ago and if you bothered reading comments after, I realised it was 147.
I wasn’t wrong about the 147 and 154 belts being on the line.
I don't recall any of Mayweather's fights where he was defending belts from 2 weight classes in the same fight.
It’s says so on BoxRec
So incorrect. On BoxRec, it says "super world welterweight", which is different from "world super welterweight. He wasn't fighting for a super version of the WBA title just like the regular title.