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Cyclops wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 11:45

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 11:17 Are you even allowed to be counted if you go down when a punch isn't landed?

What if you get hit with a shot, take an 8 count, ref waves fight on, then you take a knee for another 8 count?

Yeah, in the first scenario I’m sure it’s not the first time we’ve all seen a strategic knee.

In the second scenario, I guess if you beat a count only to immediately go down for another one you’d expect to get waved off, wouldn’t you? You’ve shown you’re not capable of fighting.

Lenny Cravats wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 11:17 Are you even allowed to be counted if you go down when a punch isn't landed?

What if you get hit with a shot, take an 8 count, ref waves fight on, then you take a knee for another 8 count?

Wee Tommy wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 09:40 The three knockdown rule was ignored, the round ended early.

If that’s not fixed then I don’t know what is.


The four voting no, what’s your reasons for the above happening for the home fighter?

SteveO wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 14:39 I think Dubois had some sort of problem with his right leg.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 15:05 Bell going early has happened loads of times at FW shows.

maninthemiddle wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 11:43 www.bbbofc.com
Right at the bottom of the web page is Rules and Regulations…all boxing fans should take the 5-10 mins to read. (This isn’t a sarcastic post, it’s just surprising how much people don’t know. Mind you, I didn’t realise the circumference of the ball had to be off the field of play and I’ve watched football as long as boxing )

rhino222 wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 17:59 Im convinced Dubois had a bad problem with his knee, I dont think he was even shaken from the punch. His knee went and he couldnt put any weight on it, it kept giving way. this is an indication of a cruciate issue probably from knee hyperextension.

An orthodox fight will have immense problems throwing anything but arm punches if he cant push down and pivot on his right leg, im sure this is the case.

I thought DDD did well to come back into it and get the W.

Verdi wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 23:02 Dubois certainly got preferential treatment, but I wouldn't say the fight was fixed to the extent that Kevin Lerena was 'in on it'.

a force wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 13:18 I’ve never known the 3 knockdown rule been enforced in a UK ring.

I remember it been used in Ireland in a Bernard Dunne fight but not this country.

I don’t think the fight was fixed but there was certainly some corruption at play with the early end to round 1.

gregregegg wrote: ↑04 Dec 2022, 14:54 It was maxxing out A-side privlage thats for sure.

-going down like that a b side would of been waved off (probably the 2nd time but definatly the third time).

-Bell going early.... This could be a time keeping mistake, but iv never ever seen it happen in a way that helps the B-side. Seen it a few times in a way that helps A side. (only one i clearly remember is AJ vs Usyk 1 round 12...)

-Stoppage, At first i wasnt as upset as most about this, DDD landed 4 thunderous punches in a row and that uppercut especialy was sickening. but iv heard the 2nd last shot was on the bell and the last after it... Ref has to give him time to recover and if its stopped it should be no contest (or even DQ depending on how late it was, i had the volume low so cant comment on that.). I Fuking hate that things that should be NC or DQ seem to just go down as a Knockout win for A side, see that plenty weather its late shots, shots back of the head, or shots to a downed oopponent, there often just ignored because "he was going to get knocked anyway".....

Id love to see DDD accept it had some controversy and take an rematch, i think Kev deserves it.

milpool wrote: ↑05 Dec 2022, 06:27 Not sure it was a fix but I think there were some very contentious officiating.

Dubois clearly hurt part of his leg as in the corner they were discussing putting strapping on it, at which point someone highlighted that they wouldn't be allowed to.

The stream I was watching was cutting the bottom of the screen off, so I wasn't able to see at what time the bell rang. However, looking at clips I've seen since, it clearly went early. Corruption or incompetence?

As for the stoppage, I argued on here on the night that I felt the stoppage was BS. There's no doubt that had the bell not rung, Dubois would have legitimately stopped Lerena and there would probably be no arguments. He was clearly on top and Lerena was taking some heavy shots.
My argument was that the bell had rung and I felt that Lerena deserved to go back to his corner and regroup. Chances are it might not have given him enough time and he would've been stopped early in the next round...but who knows, he might have recovered well enough to run from Dubois for the next three minutes.
Foster was too quick to wave it off IMO and I doubt that he'd have done that had it been Dubois under attack.

As for DDD, he looked very vulnerable once he'd been tagged and bad leg or not, he looked like he didn't want to be there and that is quite worrying.