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Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 13:16 Haha!

What a joke!!!

Tony1244 wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 14:08

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 13:16 Haha!

What a joke!!!

I despise the alphabets, but for a box off I've seen much worse.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:17

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:11 wilder didn't seriously hurt fury? da f@k you smoking my man

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 15:07

tiny_acres wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:17

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:11 wilder didn't seriously hurt fury? da f@k you smoking my man

Pass the pipe, must be some good stuff.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 13:16 Haha!

What a joke!!!

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 09:34

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 14:33 Boxing fans are very reactionary.

People are saying on social media that “Andy Ruiz is done. He’s going to get destroyed by Wilder.”

I think the Deontay Wilder fight will be completely different. It won’t be like Andy’s bout against Luis Ortiz.

I think that Ruiz was struggling to get to grips with a southpaw.

Due to his right hand having to travel much further against the southpaw than would be the case with an orthodox fighter.

Also, even though Luis Ortiz has lost the Deontay Wilder twice, Ortiz is the better fighter technically than Wilder.

The Cuban has better balance; he’s better coordinated; he doesn’t lunge in as much with his shots; and he doesn’t make as many mistakes.

Therefore, Andy Ruiz had few opportunities to land his shots and counters against Ortiz.

And because of Ortiz’s southpaw stance, Ruiz couldn’t use his natural fighting style.

If Andy Ruiz was using his normal pressure fighting style, coming forward with squared-up shoulders and a high guard, he would have been hit with a lot more left-hands down the pipe.

So I think it was a strategic decision by Andy’s team to fight Ortiz the way he did, which is basically the typical way that most orthodox fighters fight against southpaws, a battle of the backhands.

I feel Ortiz’s style matchup was bad for Andy Ruiz. I think that Deontay Wilder is a better-style matchup for him.

I’m not saying that Ruiz beats Wilder. But I think he’ll apply a lot more pressure against Wilder than we saw against Ortiz.

I think he’ll have many more opportunities to counter against Wilder than he did against Ortiz, because the Cuban is technically better.

And it’s harder to draw mistakes out of Ortiz because he has a very good technical background.

Whereas with Wilder, you can easily draw mistakes due to the American telegraphing his punches more than Luis Ortiz.

So Ruiz can see when Wilder is about to throw something, because he cocks back his right hand like he’s about to throw a javelin or a shotput.

And a guy like Ruiz Jr will anticipate those shots being thrown and be able to block and counter or duck underneath and counter.

Therefore, I think Andy Ruiz will be very competitive against Wilder.

What was his excuse struggling with Arreola? Bad style matchup too, or too young?

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 17:11

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 09:34

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 14:33 Boxing fans are very reactionary.

People are saying on social media that “Andy Ruiz is done. He’s going to get destroyed by Wilder.”

I think the Deontay Wilder fight will be completely different. It won’t be like Andy’s bout against Luis Ortiz.

I think that Ruiz was struggling to get to grips with a southpaw.

Due to his right hand having to travel much further against the southpaw than would be the case with an orthodox fighter.

Also, even though Luis Ortiz has lost the Deontay Wilder twice, Ortiz is the better fighter technically than Wilder.

The Cuban has better balance; he’s better coordinated; he doesn’t lunge in as much with his shots; and he doesn’t make as many mistakes.

Therefore, Andy Ruiz had few opportunities to land his shots and counters against Ortiz.

And because of Ortiz’s southpaw stance, Ruiz couldn’t use his natural fighting style.

If Andy Ruiz was using his normal pressure fighting style, coming forward with squared-up shoulders and a high guard, he would have been hit with a lot more left-hands down the pipe.

So I think it was a strategic decision by Andy’s team to fight Ortiz the way he did, which is basically the typical way that most orthodox fighters fight against southpaws, a battle of the backhands.

I feel Ortiz’s style matchup was bad for Andy Ruiz. I think that Deontay Wilder is a better-style matchup for him.

I’m not saying that Ruiz beats Wilder. But I think he’ll apply a lot more pressure against Wilder than we saw against Ortiz.

I think he’ll have many more opportunities to counter against Wilder than he did against Ortiz, because the Cuban is technically better.

And it’s harder to draw mistakes out of Ortiz because he has a very good technical background.

Whereas with Wilder, you can easily draw mistakes due to the American telegraphing his punches more than Luis Ortiz.

So Ruiz can see when Wilder is about to throw something, because he cocks back his right hand like he’s about to throw a javelin or a shotput.

And a guy like Ruiz Jr will anticipate those shots being thrown and be able to block and counter or duck underneath and counter.

Therefore, I think Andy Ruiz will be very competitive against Wilder.

What was his excuse struggling with Arreola? Bad style matchup too, or too young?

Are you comparing Ortiz to Arreola?

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 17:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 17:11

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 09:34

What was his excuse struggling with Arreola? Bad style matchup too, or too young?

Are you comparing Ortiz to Arreola?

Simple question. Your logic, as usual, is flawed. Both Ortiz and Arreola are over 40, and Ruiz struggled with both, especially Ortiz, whom you've criticized as being over-hyped in the past. Both Ortiz and Arreola are past their best. Ortiz was better, but missed chances to prove it.

Arreola landed 20 or 30 more punches than Ortiz did on RuIz and had him hurt 3 times in the fight. Wilder took out a younger, fresher Arreola in 4 rounds. Ruiz may last 7 or 8 rounds with Wilder. Ortiz being a southpaw is just an excuse to cover the fact that Ruiz, in his prime, just isn't that good.

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 20:56

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 17:46

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 17:11
Are you comparing Ortiz to Arreola?

Simple question. Your logic, as usual, is flawed. Both Ortiz and Arreola are over 40, and Ruiz struggled with both, especially Ortiz, whom you've criticized as being over-hyped in the past. Both Ortiz and Arreola are past their best. Ortiz was better, but missed chances to prove it.

Arreola landed 20 or 30 more punches than Ortiz did on RuIz and had him hurt 3 times in the fight. Wilder took out a younger, fresher Arreola in 4 rounds. Ruiz may last 7 or 8 rounds with Wilder. Ortiz being a southpaw is just an excuse to cover the fact that Ruiz, in his prime, just isn't that good.

You claimed Luis Ortiz didn’t duck Anthony Joshua.

You claimed Andy Ruiz Jr. was ducking Luis Ortiz.

You claimed Luis Ortiz would beat Andy Ruiz Jr.

Shall I carry on?

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 13:13 i think duhaupas was the only guy he didnt drop, though havent seen all of his earliest fights. stiverne technically wasnt dropped or stopped the first time though obviously got crushed in the rematch.

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 22:42

Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 20:56

Bandog wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 17:46

Simple question. Your logic, as usual, is flawed. Both Ortiz and Arreola are over 40, and Ruiz struggled with both, especially Ortiz, whom you've criticized as being over-hyped in the past. Both Ortiz and Arreola are past their best. Ortiz was better, but missed chances to prove it.

Arreola landed 20 or 30 more punches than Ortiz did on RuIz and had him hurt 3 times in the fight. Wilder took out a younger, fresher Arreola in 4 rounds. Ruiz may last 7 or 8 rounds with Wilder. Ortiz being a southpaw is just an excuse to cover the fact that Ruiz, in his prime, just isn't that good.

You claimed Luis Ortiz didn’t duck Anthony Joshua.

You claimed Andy Ruiz Jr. was ducking Luis Ortiz.

You claimed Luis Ortiz would beat Andy Ruiz Jr.

Shall I carry on?

Ortiz was guaranteed a rematch with Wilder, so declined the short notice Joshua fight.

Ruiz tried to get out of the Ortiz fight, signing another fight, but was forced to take it. fornicating idiot.

Yes, I predicted Ortiz would win, so what. I was very close to being right, which is better than straddling the fence, choosing multiple options regarding outcomes, like narcissists do, with fear of bring wrong, like you have done.
Quit while you are behInd doofus.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 13:16 Haha!

What a joke!!!