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keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:39

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 05:38 It really can't be PPV again can it?

I know Chris is the house fighter but can the pundits really keep a straight face selling this?

I think it's a fascinating matchup. Eubank trained and cut weight for Benn and had issues outside the ring. I think he will be 100% focused for the next fight. I'm really looking forward to it.

Eubank was a 100% focused on his fight with smith, he’s no mug and knew he was in for a tough fight no matter what he said beforehand.

smiling assassin wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:54 Eubank was a 100% focused on his fight with smith,

You don't know that for certain.

Controversial wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 05:17

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 04:22

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑02 Feb 2023, 16:12 well, the problem with drained guys isnt that they can't make weight necessarily, it's that they put or try to put themselves at a weight they shouldnt be. it's often by making the limit that they poof themselves

I agree.

Weight was an issue, Eubank has been down around that weight and even lower since the Benn fight. No one in their right mind can honestly think maintaining a fighting weight for a number of months doesn't have a negative effect. Which is effectivley what Jr has done.

I think he might be done tbh, he hasn't looked good since going back to middle. The Morrison fight was a poor dispaly, never did quite figure that one out. but it makes more sense now. Williams was all over the shop in their fight and somehow made the later rounds compettiive.

No wonder there was so much conffidence in the Benn poultry camp

Out of training I think he's around 170lb so I doubt he's been under 160 for almost 4 months, he got down for the Benn fight and would've put weight on when it fell through, he doesn't balloon up in weight like some and keeps in shape so dropping 10lbs isn't out the ordinary. When you think Hatton was putting on several stone between fights, drinking and living a party lifestyle and it took years for it to take its toll on him.

Losing stones is easy when it’s all crap. Chris will be very lean at 170.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:56

smiling assassin wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:54 Eubank was a 100% focused on his fight with smith,

You don't know that for certain.

Granted but to think he was anything other than 100% seems ludicrous to me. Eubank is all mind games and he knows smith is a good fighter

smiling assassin wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 07:09

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:56

smiling assassin wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:54 Eubank was a 100% focused on his fight with smith,

You don't know that for certain.

Granted but to think he was anything other than 100% seems ludicrous to me. Eubank is all mind games and he knows smith is a good fighter

It's just my opinion (and the opinion of others), but he didn't look right coming to the ring.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:57

Controversial wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 05:17

Twinkle Toes wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 04:22

I agree.

Weight was an issue, Eubank has been down around that weight and even lower since the Benn fight. No one in their right mind can honestly think maintaining a fighting weight for a number of months doesn't have a negative effect. Which is effectivley what Jr has done.

I think he might be done tbh, he hasn't looked good since going back to middle. The Morrison fight was a poor dispaly, never did quite figure that one out. but it makes more sense now. Williams was all over the shop in their fight and somehow made the later rounds compettiive.

No wonder there was so much conffidence in the Benn poultry camp

Out of training I think he's around 170lb so I doubt he's been under 160 for almost 4 months, he got down for the Benn fight and would've put weight on when it fell through, he doesn't balloon up in weight like some and keeps in shape so dropping 10lbs isn't out the ordinary. When you think Hatton was putting on several stone between fights, drinking and living a party lifestyle and it took years for it to take its toll on him.

Losing stones is easy when it’s all crap. Chris will be very lean at 170.

Yeah of course but most fighters struggle to make weight, you hear some of the horror stories of not eating for a week, sitting in saunas on weigh in day etc but Eubank was showing himself out eating in restaurants.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:39

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 05:38 It really can't be PPV again can it?

I know Chris is the house fighter but can the pundits really keep a straight face selling this?

I think it's a fascinating matchup. Eubank trained and cut weight for Benn and had issues outside the ring. I think he will be 100% focused for the next fight. I'm really looking forward to it.

That's personal speculation. No way would anyone want to see the rematch if Smith had lost in the same manner.

Chris is getting preferential treatment. Such is contemporary sport.

Best thing for both men is Chris wins a disputed decision in the rematch and we get a 3rd fight.

Even so, back to the point I made, how can they sell this as PPV with a straight face?

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 09:27

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:39

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 05:38 It really can't be PPV again can it?

I know Chris is the house fighter but can the pundits really keep a straight face selling this?

I think it's a fascinating matchup. Eubank trained and cut weight for Benn and had issues outside the ring. I think he will be 100% focused for the next fight. I'm really looking forward to it.

That's personal speculation. No way would anyone want to see the rematch if Smith had lost in the same manner.

Chris is getting preferential treatment. Such is contemporary sport.

Best thing for both men is Chris wins a disputed decision in the rematch and we get a 3rd fight.

Even so, back to the point I made, how can they sell this as PPV with a straight face?

Personally, I think it will do more buys than the first fight. Just my opinion of course. If the favourite loses, it's not that unheard of for there to be a rematch.

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 09:27

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:39

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 05:38 It really can't be PPV again can it?

I know Chris is the house fighter but can the pundits really keep a straight face selling this?

I think it's a fascinating matchup. Eubank trained and cut weight for Benn and had issues outside the ring. I think he will be 100% focused for the next fight. I'm really looking forward to it.

That's personal speculation. No way would anyone want to see the rematch if Smith had lost in the same manner.

Chris is getting preferential treatment. Such is contemporary sport.

Best thing for both men is Chris wins a disputed decision in the rematch and we get a 3rd fight.

Even so, back to the point I made, how can they sell this as PPV with a straight face?

bcos the 1st fight couldnt be made if not ppv due to fighters purse demands which is madness really given the level they are at !
Smith ex world champ but still outside the elite level if you think objectively .
Eubank again not elite or frankly anywhere near and came up short vs Groves and BJs .

Compare this to Beterbiev v Yarde where an elite holder of belts is facing a legit challenger yet not PPV !!!
Madness .

stevec@france wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 09:59

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 09:27

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 06:39

I think it's a fascinating matchup. Eubank trained and cut weight for Benn and had issues outside the ring. I think he will be 100% focused for the next fight. I'm really looking forward to it.

That's personal speculation. No way would anyone want to see the rematch if Smith had lost in the same manner.

Chris is getting preferential treatment. Such is contemporary sport.

Best thing for both men is Chris wins a disputed decision in the rematch and we get a 3rd fight.

Even so, back to the point I made, how can they sell this as PPV with a straight face?

bcos the 1st fight couldnt be made if not ppv due to fighters purse demands which is madness really given the level they are at !
Smith ex world champ but still outside the elite level if you think objectively .
Eubank again not elite or frankly anywhere near and came up short vs Groves and BJs .

Compare this to Beterbiev v Yarde where an elite holder of belts is facing a legit challenger yet not PPV !!!
Madness .

PPV is popularity not ability.

Great rematch, unlike some of the pointless ones we’ve seen lately at hw. I wasn’t expecting it, but it was a sensational fight, Chris looked in the ascendance, the round before Smith flattened him. Eubank was obviously overconfident, thinking he had that impregnable chin, and he had the lights turned out by a series of perfectly landed punches: should’ve gone down but that great chin held him up for the finisher.
He’ll be desperate for revenge and I fancy him to turn the tables on Smith. It’ll be a great fight, they’re both vulnerable now; he steadied Smith in the 3rd, and Smith has looked a bit more vulnerable lately…
Chris should watch Graziano Zale II to see how to go about turning the tables

Although I’d add this is just a great fight night type fight, not PPV quality, I wouldn’t watch it via box office.

Will there be a rematch to the rematch ?

tony1234 wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 14:42 Will there be a rematch to the rematch ?

A 3rd?

Who knows, this may the the trilogy we didn’t know we needed.

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 12:56

stevec@france wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 09:59

Ezzard wrote: ↑03 Feb 2023, 09:27

That's personal speculation. No way would anyone want to see the rematch if Smith had lost in the same manner.

Chris is getting preferential treatment. Such is contemporary sport.

Best thing for both men is Chris wins a disputed decision in the rematch and we get a 3rd fight.

Even so, back to the point I made, how can they sell this as PPV with a straight face?

bcos the 1st fight couldnt be made if not ppv due to fighters purse demands which is madness really given the level they are at !
Smith ex world champ but still outside the elite level if you think objectively .
Eubank again not elite or frankly anywhere near and came up short vs Groves and BJs .

Compare this to Beterbiev v Yarde where an elite holder of belts is facing a legit challenger yet not PPV !!!
Madness .

PPV is popularity not ability.

and ability to sell to the masses who are stupid enuff to buy it

WELL…
A couple of the podcasts in the build up said that there were half a dozen out ones that were equally plausible but once the final bell rang it would have people feeling silly for not predicting that all along.
The rematch would be exactly the same and for me at this point it is still the 50/50 contest that the first one was.
A round that could have gone either way, one for Smith, one for CEJ and then he was caught and quickly stopped. That’s not like a 12 round beating and without knowing a load of information that we never will, it’s difficult to see how it’s any easier to predict than it was the first time around.

Normally, a rematch wouldn’t sell after a first fight like that. It’s different with Eubank though
Eubank = loads of coin

Noxy wrote: ↑04 Feb 2023, 17:26 Normally, a rematch wouldn’t sell after a first fight like that. It’s different with Eubank though
Eubank = loads of coin

He can get money regardless. Don't know why he doesn't go up a weight and get the domestic straps. He can make a rivalry with anyone as he's got that personality.

Possible date: May 27.

Possible location: AO Arena

wrighty wrote: ↑04 Feb 2023, 18:40

Noxy wrote: ↑04 Feb 2023, 17:26 Normally, a rematch wouldn’t sell after a first fight like that. It’s different with Eubank though
Eubank = loads of coin

He can get money regardless. Don't know why he doesn't go up a weight and get the domestic straps. He can make a rivalry with anyone as he's got that personality.

He might not be able to get domestic straps. He has, after all, proven three times he is below British level being beaten by three Brits.
After Groves he just feasted on fringe contenders, never making a serious bit for a belt in years. There has to be a reason for that.

KiwiRider wrote: ↑07 Feb 2023, 15:17

wrighty wrote: ↑04 Feb 2023, 18:40

Noxy wrote: ↑04 Feb 2023, 17:26 Normally, a rematch wouldn’t sell after a first fight like that. It’s different with Eubank though
Eubank = loads of coin

He can get money regardless. Don't know why he doesn't go up a weight and get the domestic straps. He can make a rivalry with anyone as he's got that personality.

He might not be able to get domestic straps. He has, after all, proven three times he is below British level being beaten by three Brits.
After Groves he just feasted on fringe contenders, never making a serious bit for a belt in years. There has to be a reason for that.

To be fair, those three Brits are well above British Title level.

Said it did more than 200k but less than 300k

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Feb 2023, 04:26 Said it did more than 200k but less than 300k

And that is why it's PPV. A non-title fight with no background but based around CEJ and it being a true 50/50 fight can sell out 17,000+ tickets and gross £5 million + on PPV. Wow.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Feb 2023, 04:26 Said it did more than 200k but less than 300k

The rematch will do more.

liam smith world p4p #10 on boxrec

Just popped up on Sky Sports that Eubank has activated the rematch clause