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Who’s voted Demi?

CMCanavessi wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 14:01

cpx2 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 08:32 Efe based on resume.

What resume?

the one that stacks up nicely compared to other guys

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 14:48

CMCanavessi wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 14:01

cpx2 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 08:32 Efe based on resume.

What resume?

the one that stacks up nicely compared to other guys

CMCanavessi wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 14:01

cpx2 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 08:32 Efe based on resume.

What resume?

Shaw's a decent win, and he beat Demirezen pretty handily.

cpx2 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2023, 09:36

CMCanavessi wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 14:01

cpx2 wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 08:32 Efe based on resume.

What resume?

Shaw's a decent win, and he beat Demirezen pretty handily.

Who has aged well.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Feb 2023, 09:49

cpx2 wrote: ↑09 Feb 2023, 09:36

CMCanavessi wrote: ↑08 Feb 2023, 14:01

What resume?

Shaw's a decent win, and he beat Demirezen pretty handily.

Who has aged well.

Precisely. Although I have to say Ajagba being 15th best HW, with others above him like Wallin and Pulev, is a bit of a damning indictment of the current state of the division, considering he got beat comprehensively by Sanchez, who has fought absolutely no one else.

I'll be honest everything passed the top 10 is such a disappointment that you could literally put all of these people's names in a hat and pull one out and it wouldn't really matter where they were ranked.

#11-#15 literally is so weak I could easily see an old trial horse like Chisora actually beating them. I guess because he's in the only fight that matters, Zhang should be #15.

might need a run off between efe and jah

First one to reach 10 votes?

Jared Anderson's best wins within #150 according to the Boxrec rankings:
#45 Jerry Forrest
#92 Johnnie Langston
#124 Kingsley Ibeh

No longer ranked: Oleksandr Teslenko, Vladimir Tereshkin and Jeremiah Karpency. I believe all three were ranked outside the top 100.

Efe Ajagba's record Vs the top #150 on Boxrec:
#13 Frank Sanchez LOSS
#20 Ali Eren Demirezen
#22 Stephen Shaw
#34 Jonathan Rice

No longer ranked: Brian Howard, Iago Kiladze and Amir Mansour. I believe they were ranked between 50-150.

I know the rankings are flawed but you can use them as a rough marker. In this instance it looks clear.

As they are also gaining votes...

Arslanbek Makhmudov's wins vs the Boxrec top #150:
#34 Jonathan Rice
#41 Carlos Takam
#80 Mariusz Wach

No longer ranked: Samuel Peter, Dillon Carman, Erkan Teper. I believe they were ranked outside the top 100.

Daniel Dubois's record vs the Boxrec top #150:
#5 Joe Joyce LOSS
#31 Trevor Bryan
#36 Kevin Lerena (Bridger/Cruiserweight)
#89 Nathan Gorman
#90 Joe Cusumano
#108 Kevin Johnson

Zhilei Zhang's official record Vs the Boxrec top #150, however, I know that most of his votes will be because of his disputed loss to Hrgovic:
#19 Filip Hrgovic LOSS
#45 Jerry Forrest DRAW
#104 Curtis Harper
#133 Devin Vargas
#149 Andrii Rudenko

Thanks for that.

Gives us a better understanding too.

I haven't actually voted yet

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 08:26 Thanks for that.

Gives us a better understanding too.

It was more out of disbelief that people had been voting for some of those names

joshj909 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 08:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 08:26 Thanks for that.

Gives us a better understanding too.

It was more out of disbelief that people had been voting for some of those names

Those are the boxers current rankings aren't they?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 08:31

joshj909 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 08:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 08:26 Thanks for that.

Gives us a better understanding too.

It was more out of disbelief that people had been voting for some of those names

Those are the boxers current rankings aren't they?

Yep current rankings. Couldn't be bothered to try and work out their previous rankings at the time of the fight but none of the relevant ones are too old really so it's probably a more accurate reflection of their level.

joshj909 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 07:13 Jared Anderson's best wins within #150 according to the Boxrec rankings:
#45 Jerry Forrest
#92 Johnnie Langston
#124 Kingsley Ibeh

No longer ranked: Oleksandr Teslenko, Vladimir Tereshkin and Jeremiah Karpency. I believe all three were ranked outside the top 100.

Efe Ajagba's record Vs the top #150 on Boxrec:
#13 Frank Sanchez LOSS
#20 Ali Eren Demirezen
#22 Stephen Shaw
#34 Jonathan Rice

No longer ranked: Brian Howard, Iago Kiladze and Amir Mansour. I believe they were ranked between 50-150.

I know the rankings are flawed but you can use them as a rough marker. In this instance it looks clear.

Ajagba has a better resume and deserves the spot more than Anderson

ya, i go efe for now. jah looks to have better potential and we can always vote him upon his next win if it's good enough

Yea, not averse to that at all. If Rice is Anderson's next opponent (as is rumoured) I'd probably be reluctant to give him too much credit for that though, seeing as they are sparring partners.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 19:34

joshj909 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 07:13 Jared Anderson's best wins within #150 according to the Boxrec rankings:
#45 Jerry Forrest
#92 Johnnie Langston
#124 Kingsley Ibeh

No longer ranked: Oleksandr Teslenko, Vladimir Tereshkin and Jeremiah Karpency. I believe all three were ranked outside the top 100.

Efe Ajagba's record Vs the top #150 on Boxrec:
#13 Frank Sanchez LOSS
#20 Ali Eren Demirezen
#22 Stephen Shaw
#34 Jonathan Rice

No longer ranked: Brian Howard, Iago Kiladze and Amir Mansour. I believe they were ranked between 50-150.

I know the rankings are flawed but you can use them as a rough marker. In this instance it looks clear.

Ajagba has a better resume and deserves the spot more than Anderson

Agreed.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 20:16 ya, i go efe for now. jah looks to have better potential and we can always vote him upon his next win if it's good enough

Yeh forget the eye test. Efe might just lose to Anderson in the ring, but he has been getting the job done when he’s in there.

They both have the same promoter don’t they?

Anderson can always be voted up after he beats some more credible opponents.

Shall I open the poll? Does anyone want to change their votes?

New fight added

Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

03.03.2023 - Murat Gassiev - 29(22) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #24) vs. Mike Balogun - 20(16) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #35)

04.03.2023 - Agit Kabayel - 22(14) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #47) vs. Agron Smakici - 19(17) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #38)

18.03.2023 - Jarrell Miller - 25(21) 0 1 - (BoxRec's #43) vs. Lucas Browne - 31(27) 3(3) 0 - (BoxRec's #30)

23.03.2023 - Simon Kean - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #37) vs. Eric Molina - 29(21) 8(8) 0 - (BoxRec's #102)

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 04:38 Shall I open the poll? Does anyone want to change their votes?

Yes, I'll go for Ajagba over my original choice of Anderson.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 06:02 New fight added

Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

03.03.2023 - Murat Gassiev - 29(22) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #24) vs. Mike Balogun - 20(16) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #35)

04.03.2023 - Agit Kabayel - 22(14) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #47) vs. Agron Smakici - 19(17) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #38)

18.03.2023 - Jarrell Miller - 25(21) 0 1 - (BoxRec's #43) vs. Lucas Browne - 31(27) 3(3) 0 - (BoxRec's #30)

23.03.2023 - Simon Kean - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #37) vs. Eric Molina - 29(21) 8(8) 0 - (BoxRec's #102)

Can't see any of these making too much of a difference, if at all. Gassiev on talent could of course be up there; but would need to see it against better opposition.