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ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 15:59

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 15:54

ashall2 wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 15:00 Catterall is full of it. Still whining a year on. Done an interview saying Taylor is ducking him then a minute later says he thinks Taylor’s injury could be a career ender. Make your mind up.

Taylor owes Catterall nothing. Let’s be fair, Catterall is horrible to watch. Much rather Taylor v Lopez.

Ben Shalom talks out of his arse too. Saying today that Catterall may take a fight in March if Taylor is ducking... they’ve literally already announced on the fight poster that Catterall is fighting in March

One of the most (unintentionally) comedic posts I've seen on this forum.

Out of interest which bit of my post is untrue? Catterall being horrible to watch? Taylor having no contractual obligations towards Catterall? Taylor v Lopez being a better fight?

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:16

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 15:59

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 15:54
One of the most (unintentionally) comedic posts I've seen on this forum.

Out of interest which bit of my post is untrue? Catterall being horrible to watch? Taylor having no contractual obligations towards Catterall? Taylor v Lopez being a better fight?

Where did you talk about Taylor having no contractual obligations in your original post? You said Taylor owes Catterall nothing, which is clearly nonsense given the nature of that first fight. You can deflect (as you've already attempted here), by saying he technically/legally doesn't, but if you are a truly impartial fan then that he clearly ethically owes Catterall a rematch.
The fact you talk about Catterall "whining" reveals your true colours. A professional boxer who has made untold sacrifices does enough in 99.9% of people's eyes to win a fight that would be life-changing for him, yet is denied by unjust decision... and you have the temerity to talk about him being a whiner when he campaigns for a rematch. Speaks volumes about your own character.

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:18

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:16

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 15:59

Out of interest which bit of my post is untrue? Catterall being horrible to watch? Taylor having no contractual obligations towards Catterall? Taylor v Lopez being a better fight?

Where did you talk about Taylor having no contractual obligations in your original post? You said Taylor owes Catterall nothing, which is clearly nonsense given the nature of that first fight. You can deflect (as you've already attempted here), by saying he technically/legally doesn't, but if you are a truly impartial fan then that he clearly ethically owes Catterall a rematch.
The fact you talk about Catterall "whining" reveals your true colours. A professional boxer who has made untold sacrifices does enough in 99.9% of people's eyes to win a fight that would be life-changing for him, yet is denied by unjust decision... and you have the temerity to talk about him being a whiner when he campaigns for a rematch. Speaks volumes about your own character.

‘Owes him nothing’ as in it’s not like the rematch was ordered by any governing body.

As for my own character, you don’t even know me and it’s just an opinion on boxing, chill out it ain’t that deep.

coneye wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 11:16 See Taylor is apparantly giving the remattch a miss and fighting Lopez ,, what a dick , thats Boxing , feel for Catteral

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:24

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:18

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:16
Where did you talk about Taylor having no contractual obligations in your original post? You said Taylor owes Catterall nothing, which is clearly nonsense given the nature of that first fight. You can deflect (as you've already attempted here), by saying he technically/legally doesn't, but if you are a truly impartial fan then that he clearly ethically owes Catterall a rematch.
The fact you talk about Catterall "whining" reveals your true colours. A professional boxer who has made untold sacrifices does enough in 99.9% of people's eyes to win a fight that would be life-changing for him, yet is denied by unjust decision... and you have the temerity to talk about him being a whiner when he campaigns for a rematch. Speaks volumes about your own character.

‘Owes him nothing’ as in it’s not like the rematch was ordered by any governing body.

As for my own character, you don’t even know me and it’s just an opinion on boxing, chill out it ain’t that deep.

I'm not trying to be deep. It's an observation based on a clear insight. Considering Catterall a 'whinner' says something about your character, whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:30

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:24

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:18

‘Owes him nothing’ as in it’s not like the rematch was ordered by any governing body.

As for my own character, you don’t even know me and it’s just an opinion on boxing, chill out it ain’t that deep.

I'm not trying to be deep. It's an observation based on a clear insight. Considering Catterall a 'whinner' says something about your character, whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.

Again you know nothing about my character but not getting into a slanging match with someone I don’t know over the internet.

Glass Joe wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:27

coneye wrote: ↑10 Feb 2023, 11:16 See Taylor is apparantly giving the remattch a miss and fighting Lopez ,, what a dick , thats Boxing , feel for Catteral

yep thats boxing and personally i would rather see Lopez fight.

You will probably see Catteral in the future having a robin reid type podcast on boxing life stories.

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:41

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:30

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:24
I'm not trying to be deep. It's an observation based on a clear insight. Considering Catterall a 'whinner' says something about your character, whether you choose to acknowledge that or not.

Again you know nothing about my character but not getting into a slanging match with someone I don’t know over the internet.

There is no slanging match. It's generally accepted that behaviours are insights into character - I don't know Billy Joe Saunders personally, but 99.9% of people would accept that it's still perfectly plausible to form an opinion on his character based on his behaviour in the public domain. Likewise, calling a dedicated pro like Caterall a whinger says something about you. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:44

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:41

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:30

Again you know nothing about my character but not getting into a slanging match with someone I don’t know over the internet.

There is no slanging match. It's generally accepted that behaviours are insights into character - I don't know Billy Joe Saunders personally, but 99.9% of people would accept that it's still perfectly plausible to form an opinion on his character based on his behaviour in the public domain. Likewise, calling a dedicated pro like Caterall a whinger says something about you. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

Wouldn’t let it bother you so much bud.

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:55

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:44

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:41
There is no slanging match. It's generally accepted that behaviours are insights into character - I don't know Billy Joe Saunders personally, but 99.9% of people would accept that it's still perfectly plausible to form an opinion on his character based on his behaviour in the public domain. Likewise, calling a dedicated pro like Caterall a whinger says something about you. That's all. Nothing more, nothing less.

Wouldn’t let it bother you so much bud.

Yeh, fair enough. Just genuinely find it disappointing on a forum like this which is populated by self-confessed fans that there's such a lack of empathy for Catterall's position - we all know how short and precarious boxer's careers are and what should have been a life-changing win for a good, honest pro has instead degenerated into a fiasco. Can you honestly blame him for feeling hard done by? Hope you can understand that PoV.

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:59

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:55

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:44

Wouldn’t let it bother you so much bud.

Yeh, fair enough. Just genuinely find it disappointing on a forum like this which is populated by self-confessed fans that there's such a lack of empathy for Catterall's position - we all know how short and precarious boxer's careers are and what should have been a life-changing win for a good, honest pro has instead degenerated into a fiasco. Can you honestly blame him for feeling hard done by? Hope you can understand that PoV.

I can but for me the best response would have been to get back in the ring, rattle off some wins and get back in a position to fight for a belt again ASAP instead of still going at it on social media/YouTube interviews a year later.

I know he’s aggrieved but when he was posting photoshopped pictures of himself holding all the belts I found it a bit cringe.

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 16:16

ashall2 wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 15:59

Deserter wrote: ↑11 Feb 2023, 15:54
One of the most (unintentionally) comedic posts I've seen on this forum.

Out of interest which bit of my post is untrue? Catterall being horrible to watch? Taylor having no contractual obligations towards Catterall? Taylor v Lopez being a better fight?

Where did you talk about Taylor having no contractual obligations in your original post? You said Taylor owes Catterall nothing, which is clearly nonsense given the nature of that first fight. You can deflect (as you've already attempted here), by saying he technically/legally doesn't, but if you are a truly impartial fan then that he clearly ethically owes Catterall a rematch.
The fact you talk about Catterall "whining" reveals your true colours. A professional boxer who has made untold sacrifices does enough in 99.9% of people's eyes to win a fight that would be life-changing for him, yet is denied by unjust decision... and you have the temerity to talk about him being a whiner when he campaigns for a rematch. Speaks volumes about your own character.

Coco wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:51 Nobody will call Taylor a ducker for preferring this fight.

Sort of fight that will look good in his legacy, I guess more money too

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:56

Coco wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:51 Nobody will call Taylor a ducker for preferring this fight.

Sort of fight that will look good in his legacy, I guess more money too

whether you agree with them or not, there will absolutely be people saying he's ducking catteral

Coco wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:59

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:56

Coco wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:51 Nobody will call Taylor a ducker for preferring this fight.

Sort of fight that will look good in his legacy, I guess more money too

whether you agree with them or not, there will absolutely be people saying he's ducking catteral

Ducking Catteral to take on Lopez..... good luck with that!

If people are of that opinion, all of their views will go over my head.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 07:00

Coco wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:59

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:56

whether you agree with them or not, there will absolutely be people saying he's ducking catteral

Ducking Catteral to take on Lopez..... good luck with that!

If people are of that opinion, all of their views will go over my head.

it's quite easy to argue...........cat gave him hell and he wants no part of that

Coco wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 07:02

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 07:00

Coco wrote: ↑12 Feb 2023, 06:59

Ducking Catteral to take on Lopez..... good luck with that!

If people are of that opinion, all of their views will go over my head.

it's quite easy to argue...........cat gave him hell and he wants no part of that

Yes, and I feel Catt won, but by taking on a better fighter, the former unified lightweight champ, it wipes the slate clean.