Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 05:53
Julian Jackson
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Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
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Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 06:01
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Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 06:26
Virgin Islands (US), so give or take a couple of miles to the UK Virgin Islands. More or less. Practically. Yes, yes he was.
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Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 06:30
There was a bloke like that from Scarborough a few years ago, Chris Hooper. He was a decent am and people had high hopes for him, he just kept getting knocked out. He went in to every fight to win.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 04:15You obviously think that journeyman means something different to everyone else.JamesPhilips wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 19:32Did you see his record? He lost 6, 5 by Ko ro every half decent fighter he faced
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 06:41
The Gratest wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 06:26Virgin Islands (US), so give or take a couple of miles to the UK Virgin Islands. More or less. Practically. Yes, yes he was.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 06:41
FairSwitch hitter wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 05:47Neither was Chris
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 07:13
Mike McCallum
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 07:15
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Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 10:38
It’s meant to be Journeymen
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 12:05
I think he was runner up in the 73 ABAs losing to Nevile MeadeHomicideHenry wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 22:44 Hard to say. Basically all heavyweights hit hard. I'll throw in Cliff Field. 11 wins, 10 kayos, 4 losses all by kayo as well. He gained his reputation mainly through the old white collar circuit because he blew away Lenny McLean twice in one round.
But despite his reputation in the white collar circuit it didn't quite translate into championship level boxing. Probably the biggest name on his record was Richard Dunn who would later become European champion, and Cliff was stopped due to cuts in the 4th round. He was prone to cuts and if I'm not mistaken he actually was blind in one eye.
I'd probably throw in Paul Sykes as well, even though he did fight John L Gardner for the British title but his overall record wasn't all that good. Sykes had been an amateur weightlifter and pretty strong individual with pretty good hitting power. Another of those hard cases that got a lot of fame from stories of their toughness, but basically was a journeyman type.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 12:23
I guess it depends on how you definite journeyman.
Chris Saunders was repeatedly thrown in against top prospects and had as many losses as wins.
Obviously at the beginning Pele was a prospect originally but the last third of his career he was used as an opponent. But yeah he’s not the best example.
My first thought was Slick Miller but someone got there first lol
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 14:44
Fray Bentos wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 11:51 Kelvin Mortimer at welterweight could bang, this was back in the eighties.
Slick Miller KO'd a few decent heavyweight prospects.
Kelvin could bang a bitRe: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 14:53
Dave Ingleby f uck Ed up a few nights.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 16:37
Cello Renda.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 16:53
I wouldn't say he was a journeyman as he was an ex English and European champ, but Danny McIntosh could really whack. I think his losses were a combo of taking on mad fights constantly and not great management, so not sure he really counts.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 16:53
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 17:52
Darren Covill could surprise a few.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 18:35
Cello boxed for the English a couple of times but lost.
I think he boxed Leon McKenzie for an area title and won and I THINK he also won a Masters belt before the Board stopped allowing them.
I wouldn’t consider Cello to be a journeyman so much as an away boxer.
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 18:36
cello renda vs paul samuels, f@ckin ell gents
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 18:54
And the prize for the post that was most misunderstood by respondents goes too…
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 18:57
Could Hastings Rasani be considered an honorary British journeyman?
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 19:07
People are posting people with 25-6 sort of records and former British champions so it’s hardly going to be the most ridiculous suggestion is it?Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 18:57 Could Hastings Rasani be considered an honorary British journeyman?
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 19:11
Pele was suggested because he has 6 losses, 5 by KO…. So I’m suggesting Mike Tyson…jameswilson wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 19:07People are posting people with 25-6 sort of records and former British champions so it’s hardly going to be the most ridiculous suggestion is it?Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 18:57 Could Hastings Rasani be considered an honorary British journeyman?
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 20:16
Fighters like Danny Thorpe and Jason Nesbitt could bang
Re: Who was/is the hardest hitting British journeyman?
Posted: 09 Mar 2023, 22:19
Sykes was also a talented amateur boxer as well as a weightlifter that is true. Had he fought in the unlicensed boxing circuit like so many tried to talk him into he would have been head and shoulders above them all including Cliff Field.wrighty wrote: ↑09 Mar 2023, 12:05I think he was runner up in the 73 ABAs losing to Nevile MeadeHomicideHenry wrote: ↑08 Mar 2023, 22:44 Hard to say. Basically all heavyweights hit hard. I'll throw in Cliff Field. 11 wins, 10 kayos, 4 losses all by kayo as well. He gained his reputation mainly through the old white collar circuit because he blew away Lenny McLean twice in one round.
But despite his reputation in the white collar circuit it didn't quite translate into championship level boxing. Probably the biggest name on his record was Richard Dunn who would later become European champion, and Cliff was stopped due to cuts in the 4th round. He was prone to cuts and if I'm not mistaken he actually was blind in one eye.
I'd probably throw in Paul Sykes as well, even though he did fight John L Gardner for the British title but his overall record wasn't all that good. Sykes had been an amateur weightlifter and pretty strong individual with pretty good hitting power. Another of those hard cases that got a lot of fame from stories of their toughness, but basically was a journeyman type.
However, because Paul Sykes had a horrible drinking problem as well as a notorious temper that got him thrown into prison off and on over the years he basically turned into a journeyman heavyweight.
Kind of a sad state of affairs considering the man was a sparring partner for Joe Frazier at one point when Joe came over to England. Unfortunately he's remembered for being more or less a nutcase rather than a capable boxer.