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Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 04:08
by Ricky
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023, 21:25
There’s something very odd about Ben, almost like he’s a robot created in the image of what woke broadcasters would like a promoter to be - inclusive and wholesome and kind and respectable rather than the sell their own grandma for a fiver types we’re used to. He doesn’t seem to have anything about him, no charisma or spiel just a fairly nice fairly dull man stating the obvious on a loop.
By contrast, in spite of all their foibles, the leading promoters are fascinating characters. Love em or loathe em they’re engaging chaps full of chutzpah who command your attention when they speak
Indeed, he's just some patsy Sky picked out to front their failing boxing operation. At this point they'd be aswell just using ChatGPT.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 04:41
by JamesPhilips
Spud wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023, 12:26
I stated in s previous thread I didnt like Ben Shalom.
I was wrong,
The more I see him in interviews the more I like his commitment to British boxing. In addition he is starting to get a decent track record in delivering fights and more still an ever increasing stable of fighters.
No longer will Fr*nk & Eddie get things their own way.
And as far as Eddie is concerned the more Ben & Sky deliver the quicker the nails will be hammered into DAZNs coffin.
Lol you are the most simplistic, naive and low brow poster here. You still haven’t answered the David Haye question about PEDS, after getting on your high horse about PED abuse and that users should be banned for life….. lol and imagine saying about that African fighter (Munyai?) that he was too nice to take PEDs.. lol

You know David Haye was juicing, when you were in the camp but it seems you had no problem with that (I imagine cos you’re getting paid…..)
Now you’re bigging up Shalom, a guy who was given his position completely undeservedly due to family connections, has very little boxing knowledge (DKSAB),and has repeatedly vowed to push women’s boxing on us…… and delivers awful shows….
Wow we’re so lucky!

Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 04:48
by JamesPhilips
Ricky wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 04:08
CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Mar 2023, 21:25
There’s something very odd about Ben, almost like he’s a robot created in the image of what woke broadcasters would like a promoter to be - inclusive and wholesome and kind and respectable rather than the sell their own grandma for a fiver types we’re used to. He doesn’t seem to have anything about him, no charisma or spiel just a fairly nice fairly dull man stating the obvious on a loop.
By contrast, in spite of all their foibles, the leading promoters are fascinating characters. Love em or loathe em they’re engaging chaps full of chutzpah who command your attention when they speak
Indeed, he's just some patsy Sky picked out to front their failing boxing operation. At this point they'd be aswell just using ChatGPT.

Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 05:23
by veriton
He's not fit to carry FW's bullet proof vest.
Give it five years and he'll be in carphone warehouse if he's banking on the likes of Okolie keeping fans interested.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 05:28
by tony1234
SKY/Boxxer still haven't got the cross over big name to really draw PPV buys and viewing figures. Okolie is a waste of money as is Buatsi and the many olympians with most of them on the invisible list.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 05:37
by CaptainSpacerod
veriton wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 05:23
He's not fit to carry FW's bullet proof vest.
Give it five years and he'll be in carphone warehouse if he's banking on the likes of Okolie keeping fans interested.
Great line

Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 05:59
by mickey1975
I just don't get what he is trying to do. Gomez v Giles headlining a Next Gen style show in Hull (Giles is from Grimsby) with Codie Smith and Harvey Lambert on the undercard with local ticket sellers would be at least a sign of intent to build for the future.
ps I know Smith isn't with them but should be.
He seems to have no concept of LOCAL talent.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 06:11
by maverick23
mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 05:59
I just don't get what he is trying to do. Gomez v Giles headlining a Next Gen style show in Hull (Giles is from Grimsby) with Codie Smith and Harvey Lambert on the undercard with local ticket sellers would be at least a sign of intent to build for the future.
ps I know Smith isn't with them but should be.
He seems to have no concept of LOCAL talent.
His investors are based in Manchester so I’d imagine he’ll do more shows there that aren’t needed than anywhere else.
Agree though he needs to put more thought in where shows take place to build fighters properly and give people there and watching at home a better atmosphere.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 06:17
by ashall2
mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 05:59
I just don't get what he is trying to do. Gomez v Giles headlining a Next Gen style show in Hull (Giles is from Grimsby) with Codie Smith and Harvey Lambert on the undercard with local ticket sellers would be at least a sign of intent to build for the future.
ps I know Smith isn't with them but should be.
He seems to have no concept of LOCAL talent.
True. The undercard can be vital to selling tickets and you'd think he'd try and get as much local talent on as possible.
Chief support in Scotland (Taylor v Catterall) - Cuba v Ireland
Chief support in London (Shields v Marshall) - America v America
Chief support in Newcastle (Marshall v Hermans) - Albania v Wales
Chief support in Cardiff (Eubank v Williams) - America v Slovenia
It's bizarre how he keeps getting London fighters and taking them up north despite there being about 6 venues in London to use.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 06:21
by mickey1975
Why hasn't he gone for the Scottish lads? They had a great Commonwealth team and always turn out to support their own.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 07:08
by Spud
JamesPhilips wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 04:41
Spud wrote: ↑29 Mar 2023, 12:26
I stated in s previous thread I didnt like Ben Shalom.
I was wrong,
The more I see him in interviews the more I like his commitment to British boxing. In addition he is starting to get a decent track record in delivering fights and more still an ever increasing stable of fighters.
No longer will Fr*nk & Eddie get things their own way.
And as far as Eddie is concerned the more Ben & Sky deliver the quicker the nails will be hammered into DAZNs coffin.
Lol you are the most simplistic, naive and low brow poster here. You still haven’t answered the David Haye question about PEDS, after getting on your high horse about PED abuse and that users should be banned for life….. lol and imagine saying about that African fighter (Munyai?) that he was too nice to take PEDs.. lol

You know David Haye was juicing, when you were in the camp but it seems you had no problem with that (I imagine cos you’re getting paid…..)
Now you’re bigging up Shalom, a guy who was given his position completely undeservedly due to family connections, has very little boxing knowledge (DKSAB),and has repeatedly vowed to push women’s boxing on us…… and delivers awful shows….
Wow we’re so lucky!
You have an opinion as I have mine.
With regards to specific answers to some your previous questions. I have the right on here to snswer entirely what I like.
Now why dont you hurry along, your medication is due.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 07:11
by Spud
I have read a lot of the answers on here ref Ben.
I respectfully disagree with many of you who have chosen to be negative towards him.
Next please?
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 07:56
by Twinkle Toes
The new frogs clearly haven't a clue how bad it was when Warren was SKY. It was bad, you'd know that though if you was here at the time. He tried to shut the forum down because of how much negativity there was towards his entire outfit.
He got himself into a lucrative exclusive deal by being required to put on championship fights and got round it by having intercontinental championship fights. It was common knowledge at the time how naive SKY had been.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 08:05
by ashall2
Lost 2 of his fighters today.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 08:10
by ashall2
mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 06:21
Why hasn't he gone for the Scottish lads? They had a great Commonwealth team and always turn out to support their own.
Probably doesn’t know where Scotland is
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 08:11
by maverick23
Spud wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 07:11
I have read a lot of the answers on here ref Ben.
I respectfully disagree with many of you who have chosen to be negative towards him.
Next please?
Are you happy with what he’s delivered/announced so far this year?
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 08:19
by Spud
Reasonably yes.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 08:52
by maverick23
Spud wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 08:19Reasonably yes.
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but I think we’d be hard pressed to find a slower year for U.K. shows on Sky Sports in the first 4 months of any year.
2 U.K. shows that were were average at best I’d say plus a reasonable PPV.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 09:21
by Spud
maverick23 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 08:52
Spud wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 08:19Reasonably yes.
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion but I think we’d be hard pressed to find a slower year for U.K. shows on Sky Sports in the first 4 months of any year.
2 U.K. shows that were were average at best I’d say plus a reasonable PPV.
Valid points pal
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:41
by samwbr
ashall2 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 08:05
Lost 2 of his fighters today.
Catterall? Who's the other?
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:57
by cpx2
samwbr wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 10:41
ashall2 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 08:05
Lost 2 of his fighters today.
Catterall? Who's the other?
Shannon Ryan.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 10:58
by samwbr
cpx2 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 10:57
samwbr wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 10:41
ashall2 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 08:05
Lost 2 of his fighters today.
Catterall? Who's the other?
Shannon Ryan.

Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 11:10
by samwbr
And Sunny Edwards to Matchroom
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 12:26
by mickey1975
samwbr wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 11:10
And Sunny Edwards to Matchroom
Big move for Sunny. Great little fighter in with the big names now.
Re: Ben Shalom
Posted: 31 Mar 2023, 12:31
by samwbr
mickey1975 wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 12:26
samwbr wrote: ↑31 Mar 2023, 11:10
And Sunny Edwards to Matchroom
Big move for Sunny. Great little fighter in with the big names now.
Probably the best UK lad right now.