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mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 10:14

Coco wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 10:10

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 10:05
Zhang isn’t that good. Worse than Ruiz in loads of ways.

Styles make fights, Zhang was all wrong for Joyce, but he would suit Fury

I agree. Weird matchmaking. Negated all of Joe's strengths.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 20:27 right, hopefully fury fights ruiz and zhang instead of usyk, that would really be the way to show fury is superior to usyk

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 15:21 What are you on about? You constantly post about Tyson and then claim you don't want to hear about him! Tyson has fought in his opponents home countries a few times. What has Usyk got to do with this? They were never scheduled to box in Ukraine, or anywhere else for that matter.

tonyevs wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 02:22

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 15:21 What are you on about? You constantly post about Tyson and then claim you don't want to hear about him! Tyson has fought in his opponents home countries a few times. What has Usyk got to do with this? They were never scheduled to box in Ukraine, or anywhere else for that matter.

Fury has been bad for the sport; that's my honest opinion. People, including yourself, can have a different opinion on this .. that's the basis of a boxing forum. It's not hard to understand the rest Mick

You are correct in saying Fury has fought in his opponents country 'a few times' .. a few times indeed.
The point about Usyk is that Fury makes a lot of promises about fighting people .. but then ducks them; Usyk being the latest.

Of course his PR team would claim they want to fight Zhang in China next (it's the latest news from Fury no surprises) .. but despite this true fighting man's liking of fighting in his opponents country .. he'll likely face Charr in the UK next.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 20:27 right, hopefully fury fights ruiz and zhang instead of usyk, that would really be the way to show fury is superior to usyk

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 02:53

tonyevs wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 02:22

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 15:21 What are you on about? You constantly post about Tyson and then claim you don't want to hear about him! Tyson has fought in his opponents home countries a few times. What has Usyk got to do with this? They were never scheduled to box in Ukraine, or anywhere else for that matter.

Fury has been bad for the sport; that's my honest opinion. People, including yourself, can have a different opinion on this .. that's the basis of a boxing forum. It's not hard to understand the rest Mick

You are correct in saying Fury has fought in his opponents country 'a few times' .. a few times indeed.
The point about Usyk is that Fury makes a lot of promises about fighting people .. but then ducks them; Usyk being the latest.

Of course his PR team would claim they want to fight Zhang in China next (it's the latest news from Fury no surprises) .. but despite this true fighting man's liking of fighting in his opponents country .. he'll likely face Charr in the UK next.

That's not true though, is it? Only Zhang has mentioned Fury, obviously as he is the champion. The papers have ran with that. I bet you he doesn't face Charr in The UK next?

The cash-crazed 34-year-old WBC champ blew the undisputed decider with WBA, IBF and WBO king Oleksandr Usyk by moving the goalposts over money.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 03:06

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 20:27 right, hopefully fury fights ruiz and zhang instead of usyk, that would really be the way to show fury is superior to usyk

I said a better YEAR.

Ruiz and Zhang would be more meaningful than Dubois and Hrgovic. Nobody can argue against that. Everybody thinks Zhang was robbed against Hrgovic, and he's just beaten Joyce. It would be a better year than Usyk.

Furthermore, you said it yourself weeks ago, most people think Fury could beat Usyk anyways which is why people are pissed Fury let the fight evaporate with his prima dona attitude over the whole thing.

handsofstone wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 08:54 Think they'll struggle with sales here

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 03:45

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 03:06

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 20:27 right, hopefully fury fights ruiz and zhang instead of usyk, that would really be the way to show fury is superior to usyk

I said a better YEAR.

Ruiz and Zhang would be more meaningful than Dubois and Hrgovic. Nobody can argue against that. Everybody thinks Zhang was robbed against Hrgovic, and he's just beaten Joyce. It would be a better year than Usyk.

Furthermore, you said it yourself weeks ago, most people think Fury could beat Usyk anyways which is why people are pissed Fury let the fight evaporate with his prima dona attitude over the whole thing.

beating usyk would be far bigger than beating ruiz and zhang. and the best way to outdo usyk is to actually fight and beat him. that's the only way fury can actually defeat usyk. some ruiz + zhang victory by proxy stuff is just nonsense

usyk is the top man out there for fury to fight, the unified champ who is the route to the undisputed title. nothing else compares for meaningfulness.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 04:08

handsofstone wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 08:54 Think they'll struggle with sales here

The very line that was rattled out for his stadium fight in December.

BigDoofus wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 04:08

handsofstone wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 08:54 Think they'll struggle with sales here

The very line that was rattled out for his stadium fight in December.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 02:53

tonyevs wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 02:22

mickey1975 wrote: ↑16 Apr 2023, 15:21 What are you on about? You constantly post about Tyson and then claim you don't want to hear about him! Tyson has fought in his opponents home countries a few times. What has Usyk got to do with this? They were never scheduled to box in Ukraine, or anywhere else for that matter.

Fury has been bad for the sport; that's my honest opinion. People, including yourself, can have a different opinion on this .. that's the basis of a boxing forum. It's not hard to understand the rest Mick

You are correct in saying Fury has fought in his opponents country 'a few times' .. a few times indeed.
The point about Usyk is that Fury makes a lot of promises about fighting people .. but then ducks them; Usyk being the latest.

Of course his PR team would claim they want to fight Zhang in China next (it's the latest news from Fury no surprises) .. but despite this true fighting man's liking of fighting in his opponents country .. he'll likely face Charr in the UK next.

That's not true though, is it? Only Zhang has mentioned Fury, obviously as he is the champion. The papers have ran with that. I bet you he doesn't face Charr in The UK next?

The Gratest wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 07:51 Bloody hell. It wasn't all that long ago, during the Usyk duck, that Fury was branded 'an embarrassment' and had 'lost the plot'. Fast forward just a month or so and it's a full on Fury plum sucking session again. Those are the fans he loves to have.

big lennox wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 08:12 I don't have much interest in watching Fury fight again to be honest.

Im glad that The Ring Magazine has Usyk as the top dog in the division. It reflects that Uysk is the main man.

coneye wrote: ↑17 Apr 2023, 08:52 Facts are facts and there is no disputing Tyson Fury is probably the best heavy out there , there is no doubt whatsoever about that , but the problem is he is just content to let his fan boys shout him up , his father shout him up and then himself tell us all he is , BUT he will not prove it , he has refused to fight the two men who wins over would propel him into the actual and factual UNDEFEATED CHAMPION of the WORLD .

and what makes it worse is the simple fact that even the people who don't like him would say he has to be favorite , but we will never know because he started this duck and dive bollocks a while ago and is getting older and with every month that goes by his chances of winning diminish , and thats why i don't think you will see these fights . I'm not even sure he would fight Zang now after seeing him demolish Joyce

Lets not forget we can go back a LONG LONG time of Tyson having history of ducking what were considered live opponents . how long ago was it he refused to fight Price , it was,nt a few weeks ago was it