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No one mentioned the clumsy and awkward Eddie Gazo yet?

The whole thread should be about him and the mystery of how he even got a main event, much less a ranking, title shot or belt.

Franco Udella picked up the inaugural WBC light-flyweight title in the 1970s despite being stretchered from the ring. He never defended the title but was stripped for failing to defend against Paraguay's Rafael Lovera, who had never even fought as a pro.

bennie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2024, 04:57 was stripped for failing to defend against Paraguay's Rafael Lovera, who had never even fought as a pro.

lol how does a situation like that come about

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Jul 2024, 05:24

bennie wrote: ↑22 Jul 2024, 04:57 was stripped for failing to defend against Paraguay's Rafael Lovera, who had never even fought as a pro.

lol how does a situation like that come about

Lovera's team presumably had strong connections with the WBC and the dearth of light-flyweights did the rest. To add a touch of black humour to the charade, Lovera could claim he was unbeaten going in.

Bodyshot3 wrote: ↑10 May 2023, 14:15 Valuev was hugely basic yet bizarrely effective up to a point.

Going back (a seriously long way) I can remember Gene 'Mad Dog' Hatcher who was a bona fide light-welter champ getting absolutely blitzed by Honeyghan in 45 seconds and not really knowing what the feck he was doing.

I am sure Hatcher was better than that but he came at Honeyghan as if it were a pub scrap.

Hatcher was past it by this point and fighting out of his weight class and Honeyghan was at his absolute (tho shortlived) peak.
At his peak Hatcher was an all action, tough warrior who had some good wins and gave his all. A very good fighter, not a great but a very solid and deserving champ at 140lbs. Also, chatted with him on Facebook a few yrs back - nice guy, very religious

Hatcher was past it by this point and fighting out of his weight class and Honeyghan was at his absolute (tho shortlived) peak. At his peak Hatcher was an all action, tough warrior who had some good wins and gave his all. A very good fighter, not a great but a very solid and deserving champ at 140lbs. Also, chatted with him on Facebook a few

Thanks mate, interesting stuff
I think I might have been a bit mean to Gene, although I added some provisos.

Well the most limited of all champions on a pound for pound basis would likely be a heavyweight. I'd probably toss out Bruce Seldon's name, since he somehow wore a belt. Nice guy I hear, but very lucky to have scored a belt. Alp will be glad to hear that Primo would likely get the better of this HW champ.

BoxBuzz wrote: ↑29 Jul 2024, 20:27 Well the most limited of all champions on a pound for pound basis would likely be a heavyweight. I'd probably toss out Bruce Seldon's name, since he somehow wore a belt. Nice guy I hear, but very lucky to have scored a belt. Alp will be glad to hear that Primo would likely get the better of this HW champ.

Charles Martin too, won the IBF HW belt on a foul and then flattened by AJ in his first defence.

For me it is Julio Cesar Martinez. Just a strong brute with no boxing skills whatsoever who was a weight bully.

Valuev was absolutely awful. Thinking about him gives me ptsd remembering how awful heavyweight was back then

thunderfromdownunder wrote: ↑31 Aug 2024, 22:13 Valuev was absolutely awful. Thinking about him gives me ptsd remembering how awful heavyweight was back then

dont worry david haye will save the division and clear it out from these east euro giants in explosive ko style