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Evander wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 00:03 23rd September 2023 the rematch is on in London England.

Definitely one to watch out for.

You can bet fraudulent Fury will be rooting for Joe. Those fast hands of Zhang will not be to his taste.

As for Joe, well it could be another close fight if he insists on sticking to the same tactics.


"I don't mind taking punches to give more back. That's my style," he said.

"It's risky and exciting. I came up short against Zhang.

"It's about righting the wrongs and improving things in camp. Making myself into a better Joe Joyce, a better 'Juggernaut' to beat Zhang."

He added: "Obvious thing is to have better defence."


Err... yes Joe, but did it really tale you 20 years to find out?

Oh well, better late than never.

It's also a bit disappointing to see he's loyally sticking with useless Salas again.

It's definitely one to watch out for and has a lot more appeal than Joshua v Whyte 2.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/66069449

Thomastearns wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 04:58

Evander wrote: ↑01 Jul 2023, 00:03 23rd September 2023 the rematch is on in London England.

Definitely one to watch out for.

You can bet fraudulent Fury will be rooting for Joe. Those fast hands of Zhang will not be to his taste.

As for Joe, well it could be another close fight if he insists on sticking to the same tactics.


"I don't mind taking punches to give more back. That's my style," he said.

"It's risky and exciting. I came up short against Zhang.

"It's about righting the wrongs and improving things in camp. Making myself into a better Joe Joyce, a better 'Juggernaut' to beat Zhang."

He added: "Obvious thing is to have better defence."


Err... yes Joe, but did it really tale you 20 years to find out?

Oh well, better late than never.

It's also a bit disappointing to see he's loyally sticking with useless Salas again.

It's definitely one to watch out for and has a lot more appeal than Joshua v Whyte 2.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/66069449

This is a tricky one for sure.
I think in Joe's case, it could come down to his approach and attitude this time, I say that because it's not like Zhang's style is an enigma or particular difficult to work out stylewise.

Apart from this one there's a stand off in the Heavyweight division.

Fury hasn't announced who he's boxing next.
It should be Joshua.

Evander wrote: ↑09 May 2023, 22:11 Joe Joyce is activating the rematch clause.
Probably be more tactical from Joyce this time around.

Zhang KOs him again.

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑12 May 2023, 04:58 I think Joyce will get done again.

His problem is Zhang took his jab away extremely easily, and countered him with a short stabbing straight left over and over.

For most fights, you'd want to see them create angles for the jab by pivoting slightly, but Joyce has the turning circle of a supertanker, and by the time he's moved into position, Zhang will already be on the flight home.

Agree. Joyce has an excellent chin but was badly hurt by Zhang, whose arguably the most dangerous puncher (whose is accurate) in the HW div.

Zhang blew out Joyce fairly easily from what I saw.
Got to hand it to him it is a good win.

Go on what would be the excuses ...

Joyce too heavy
Zhang fired up

Those are the first things I can think of.
Zhang jumped all over him and took him out early.

Zhang has a punch.
Where is he from, home town ?

Evander wrote: ↑24 Sep 2023, 01:46 Zhang has a punch.
Where is he from, home town ?

Zhoukou, Northern China. You heard it here first, he will (if it’s made which is unlikely) put Fury to sleep.

I guarantee he fight Uysk. Fury will duck him.

So good to see Zhang finally "break through". He won a silver Olympic medal ffs, it shouldn't have taken so long.

But when he started his pro career there was also Junlong Zhang and that 7-foot Chinese guy (who retired pretty quick) and then there was about a 3-year gap where neither Junlong or Zhilie fought anyone of note. Not sure what that was about. Then Junlong disappeared too.

When Zhang lost a close one to Hrgovic I thought that might be his last opportunity since he was pushing 40, but luckily he did well enough to get some positive attention and the Joyce fight.

This situation is a bit reminiscent to the David Price - Tony Thompson matches. Price was undefeated and a 6-1 favorite over the over-40 Thompson but got clocked in r2. So he made the rematch and got TKOed again. Sometimes calling for a rematch isn't the best idea, it sets you back even more. Kownacki vs. Helenius also comes to mind, another aging fighter that scored the upset twice against a formerly undefeated prospect.

Loki wrote: ↑24 Sep 2023, 03:25

Evander wrote: ↑24 Sep 2023, 01:46 Zhang has a punch.
Where is he from, home town ?

Zhoukou, Northern China. You heard it here first, he will (if it’s made which is unlikely) put Fury to sleep.

I guarantee he fight Uysk. Fury will duck him.

Fury has bigger fish to fry, if he doesn't fight Zhang doesn't mean he's side stepping him.
Zhang is 40 years old.
If you're going to do something with him it's a matter of sooner than later, way he looks you could get 3 years out of him at least.