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I'm sure the millions of dollars Larry Holmes made in that last decade of his career meant more to his life than the cringes of a boxing forum zilch who calls himself 'Funso Banjo Baby'.

Billy Tully wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023, 16:13 I'm sure the millions of dollars Larry Holmes made in that last decade of his career meant more to his life than the cringes of a boxing forum zilch who calls himself 'Funso Banjo Baby'.

That is an interesting point you make. Would you risk brain damage, particularly if the more serious effects of the trauma are only impeding you heavily later in life for millions of dollars, money to do what ever you want and the money to take care of you kids and grandkids?
I think most people would say yes.
The nature of boxing does mean the CTE will effect you at some point, you just have to hope it is much later (as some have said here at an age where many people unfortunately do get these issues regardless of profession) than sooner.

Billy Tully wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023, 16:13 I'm sure the millions of dollars Larry Holmes made in that last decade of his career meant more to his life than the cringes of a boxing forum zilch who calls himself 'Funso Banjo Baby'.

same as to your or my criticism of pretty much any fighter, we're are just forum big mouths behind fake names

p4p1 wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023, 21:08

Billy Tully wrote: ↑08 Nov 2023, 16:13 I'm sure the millions of dollars Larry Holmes made in that last decade of his career meant more to his life than the cringes of a boxing forum zilch who calls himself 'Funso Banjo Baby'.

That is an interesting point you make. Would you risk brain damage, particularly if the more serious effects of the trauma are only impeding you heavily later in life for millions of dollars, money to do what ever you want and the money to take care of you kids and grandkids?
I think most people would say yes.
The nature of boxing does mean the CTE will effect you at some point, you just have to hope it is much later (as some have said here at an age where many people unfortunately do get these issues regardless of profession) than sooner.

Holmes, like Chuvalo and Bugner, are at an age where a lot of men are already dead, and many others who never took a punch have dementia. Larry's lived like a rich man since the 70s, not a bad run at all. Who even knows if the late Bob Sheridan had his facts straight regarding the dementia anyway.

But to Mr Banjo Baby's point, if anything Holmes elevated his status in his comeback. Most ex-champs are getting poleaxed by journeymen at that point, but Holmes made easy work of all of them in addition to schooling Mercer and giving Holyfield and McCall a run for their money. He became a fan favourite, the media finally began to appreciate his skills, and he did it all while coining it in.

Billy Tully wrote: ↑09 Nov 2023, 10:49 But to Mr Banjo Baby's point, if anything Holmes elevated his status in his comeback. Most ex-champs are getting poleaxed by journeymen at that point, but Holmes made easy work of all of them in addition to schooling Mercer and giving Holyfield and McCall a run for their money. He became a fan favourite, the media finally began to appreciate his skills, and he did it all while coining it in.

Or you could say that Holmes, who was always good with his money, had more than enough after Tyson. You could also argue and that the rest of his career consisted of beating a bunch of stiffs and with the exception of Mercer, losing every time he stepped up in class. All of it capped off by the Butterbean clown fight.

I didn't like his second career at all, but then I didn't like the lumbering fat bald middle aged Foreman much either.

hhaehre wrote: ↑10 Nov 2023, 21:00

Billy Tully wrote: ↑09 Nov 2023, 10:49 But to Mr Banjo Baby's point, if anything Holmes elevated his status in his comeback. Most ex-champs are getting poleaxed by journeymen at that point, but Holmes made easy work of all of them in addition to schooling Mercer and giving Holyfield and McCall a run for their money. He became a fan favourite, the media finally began to appreciate his skills, and he did it all while coining it in.

Or you could say that Holmes, who was always good with his money, had more than enough after Tyson. You could also argue and that the rest of his career consisted of beating a bunch of stiffs and with the exception of Mercer, losing every time he stepped up in class. All of it capped off by the Butterbean clown fight.

I didn't like his second career at all, but then I didn't like the lumbering fat bald middle aged Foreman much either.

"Losing every time he stepped up in class" meaning losing to prime Evander Holyfield and losing by a single point to Oliver McCall after he KOd Lennox Lewis. That would be good form for a fighter in his 20s, never mind a man in his mid-40s.

Holmes and Foreman brought a lot of fun to the 90s golden age, so no wonder you hated it. I bet you're a joy to have a beer with.

Billy Tully wrote: ↑11 Nov 2023, 08:05 "Losing every time he stepped up in class" meaning losing to prime Evander Holyfield and losing by a single point to Oliver McCall after he KOd Lennox Lewis. That would be good form for a fighter in his 20s, never mind a man in his mid-40s.

But it isn't good form for Larry Holmes. I prefer not to remember him as some fat 40 year old huffing and puffing in a corner, trying to counter a Danish dough boy, or vomiting in the ring, totally exhausted after getting beat up by Holyfield. But that's just me, apparently it's great entertainment for a fun guy such as yourself. Should be fun, fun, fun this weekend with Toney-Ruddock coming up.