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Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 12 Aug 2023, 23:47
by IrishGuy
I'll get up so, cheers
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 12 Aug 2023, 23:58
by margaret thatcher
good first round nava. confident and aggressive. tagging valdez with some good combos
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:02
by IrishGuy
If nava doesn't flag, looks the more versatile and better fighter
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:06
by IrishGuy
I got it 3 zip to nava
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:07
by margaret thatcher
nava again putting it on valdez, valdez looking worried. suprisingly forceful show so far from nava. he ate a few left hooks just fine too
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:09
by Les Norton
IrishGuy wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 00:02
If nava doesn't flag, looks the more versatile and better fighter
Agree, he looks the goods through 3. But 9 rounds can be a long time, I expect him to tire in another couple. Will be an interesting fight by 5hen, unless he gets Valdez out.
Valdez face is really red, he is walking into plenty.
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:11
by margaret thatcher
valdez is so much faster, yet it's nava's slow winging shots that are getting there more
i missed most of the 2nd, but i have 1, 3,4 for nava through 4
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:22
by margaret thatcher
nava looks like he's having fun in there. valdez face busting up
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:24
by margaret thatcher
nava got his dad, uncle, and cousin in the corner
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:28
by margaret thatcher
close to beatdown territory, though valdez is landing just enough of the counter shots to not have it a totally one sided fight yet
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:32
by margaret thatcher
10th round coming up, nava should be well ahead . valdez's punches are desperate swing. for someone so fast he is looking limited. for someone so slow nava is showing a lot of craft
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:37
by giacomino
Not sure I saw Valdez throw more than two punches at a time until the 10th. Hard to beat a volume puncher with a great chin like Nava that way. Nava should be way ahead
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:44
by giacomino
Should be something like 9-3 Nava.
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:44
by Les Norton
117-111 Navarette
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:45
by margaret thatcher
nava beat valdez up, valdez looks a mess
nava had fun in there, valdez not so much
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:46
by Evander
What a good fight.
Valdez was game.
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:49
by Evander
Judges Scorecards
116-112
118-110
119-109
Navarette wins
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 00:51
by margaret thatcher
drubbing
nava so much better than his previous fight
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 01:11
by Alguiffer
All action bout, very exciting ! - a little troubling to me that there was no examination of the Valdez eye by the ring doctor - maybe I missed it - there was no commercial cut aways in my location of the ESPN telecast so I think there was not a doctor check.
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 01:23
by Evander
I'd been watching the severity of the eye and redness since the mid rounds.
If you ask me they should have considered stopping it around the 9-10 round mark, problem was Valdez was fighting back and appeared to have energy.
Tough call, but considering where he was on my card I'd have stopped it, his eye was hideous.
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 01:31
by Alguiffer
Evander wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 01:23
I'd been watching the severity of the eye and redness since the mid rounds.
If you ask me they should have considered stopping it around the 9-10 round mark, problem was Valdez was fighting back and appeared to have energy.
Tough call, but considering where he was on my card I'd have stopped it, his eye was hideous.
Totally agree, by the 11 round all I could think of was the 1958 Carmen Basilio eye from the Sugar Ray Robinson bout - brutal. Hope Valdez recovers 100%.
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 02:11
by Evander
Alguiffer wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 01:31
Evander wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 01:23
I'd been watching the severity of the eye and redness since the mid rounds.
If you ask me they should have considered stopping it around the 9-10 round mark, problem was Valdez was fighting back and appeared to have energy.
Tough call, but considering where he was on my card I'd have stopped it, his eye was hideous.
Totally agree, by the 11 round all I could think of was the 1958 Carmen Basilio eye from the Sugar Ray Robinson bout - brutal. Hope Valdez recovers 100%.
Same here, it looked pretty bad.
He was apologizing afterwards too, he didn't need to do that, he went above and beyond and has nothing to apologize for at all.
I think the fact that Morales and Barrera were there likely added to the let's go all out for it mentality, that's ok to a certain point right, sometimes you need to save them from themselves.
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 07:01
by Ruthless-RKO
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑12 Aug 2023, 22:26
matches like that are just embarassing, need someone more resilient for torrez
Torrez looks like he belongs in the 80’s
Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 07:02
by Ruthless-RKO
CompuBox Stats

Re: Emanuel Navarette vs. Oscar Valdez | ESPN - August 12, 2023
Posted: 13 Aug 2023, 23:03
by gregregegg
I missed this but cards digest a wide win for Nava.. didn’t expect that, at 28, 3 weight world champ and off a good win surely he can get a bit more momentum going now.