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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 04 Jul 2023, 00:25
by margaret thatcher
jah will defo be getting in

mak maybe not. if pulev is voted out and a vacant spot opens, mak still might not make it. he's borderline and there are guys like dubois and maybe e fe out there who could edge it. if we expanded it to top 20 he'd get in, but it can be difficult enough filling in the last spots of the top 15

btw wtf is up with franky sanchez. gets a career best win over efe, and then subsquently has 3 fights no one cares about. fighting danny martz at this stage of his career is pathetic

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 04 Jul 2023, 00:33
by margaret thatcher
my ranking of guys currently active but unranked would prob be

jah
dubois (ridiculously overrated by boxrec at #6)
efe
big mak
takam
wallin

something like that at least....................a group like this could swing a lot of ways. despite jah not blowing martin out like most thought, a near shutout is still better than what most other guys have done lately. his win over black forrest cake was also a lot better than what other contenders or fringe contenders managed

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 04 Jul 2023, 03:18
by Ruthless-RKO
Mak has 24 votes, Jah has 21..

As it stands, Jah enters at #15.. quite secure as well.

Mak is also #15, however he's very much borderline. Another vote 'remaining out' could leave him out.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 05 Jul 2023, 03:15
by Ruthless-RKO
According to Ruiz Sr., Frank Sanchez will be fighting Chris Arreola next

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 06 Jul 2023, 03:43
by Ruthless-RKO
As it stands, Jah enters at #15.. quite secure as well.

Mak is also #15, however he's very much borderline. Another vote 'remaining out' could leave him out.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 06 Jul 2023, 16:32
by KiwiRider
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘05 Jul 2023, 03:15 According to Ruiz Sr., Frank Sanchez will be fighting Chris Arreola next
Yep, that will be a fairly easy night for the Cuban Flash. Just hope someone has had a word to him about coasting through fights, it ain't fan friendly.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 06 Jul 2023, 21:30
by SportsRatings
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘05 Jul 2023, 03:15 According to Ruiz Sr., Frank Sanchez will be fighting Chris Arreola next
I wish he (Sanchez) would fight Makhmudov. I think it would look like Lyle Alzado trying to box Ali.

Not buying the Mak hype, to me he's the new Alexander Ustinov.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 07 Jul 2023, 04:42
by Ruthless-RKO
Will wrap this up on the weekend.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 07 Jul 2023, 17:32
by adislav123
If u go thru the boxrec top 50 heavyweights that are still unbeaten (minus fury & hrgovic), all of them would make a good next fight for mak or jah.

If i could choose their next fight i'd put mak up against big baby miller in a battle of the behemoths and get zhan vs. jah made.

Miller vs. Anderson would also be great, to determine 'who's the real big baby'?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 09 Jul 2023, 08:14
by Ruthless-RKO
Get ur last votes in

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 09 Jul 2023, 16:49
by CMCanavessi
Who wins if Takam fights Martin?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 09 Jul 2023, 18:22
by joshj909
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘09 Jul 2023, 16:49 Who wins if Takam fights Martin?
Old Takam beats every Martin

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 10 Jul 2023, 03:20
by Ruthless-RKO
The vote is over.

Anderson enters at #15, which means Chisora now exits.

Current ranking:
Image ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: 26.08.2023 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Daniel Dubois - 19(18) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #6)

3. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 25(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: 12.08.2023 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - (#9)

4. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

6. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - (#5)

8. ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฟ Joseph Parker - 32(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: 12.08.2023 vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Anthony Joshua - 25(22) 3(1) 0 - (#3)

10. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฉ Martin Bakole - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Frank Sanchez - 22(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡บ Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ฌ Kubrat Pulev - 29(14) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท Filip Hrgovic - 15(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

15. ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Jared Anderson - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 10 Jul 2023, 04:53
by Ruthless-RKO
Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

15.07.2023 - ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Jermaine Franklin Jr. - 21(14) 2(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #33) vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Isaac Munoz
Gutierrez
- 17(14) 0 1 - (BoxRec's #169)

22.07.2023 - ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Stephan Shaw - 18(13) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #27) vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ Joseph Goodall - 9(8) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #138)

19.08.2023 - ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Simon Kean - 23(22) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #38) vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Guido Vianello - 10(9) 1(1) 1 - (BoxRec's #159)

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 10 Jul 2023, 05:37
by Ruthless-RKO
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘10 Jul 2023, 04:53 Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

15.07.2023 - ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Jermaine Franklin Jr. - 21(14) 2(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #33) vs. ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ Isaac Munoz
Gutierrez
- 17(14) 0 1 - (BoxRec's #169)
Fights off

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 10 Jul 2023, 11:49
by CMCanavessi
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘09 Jul 2023, 18:22
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘09 Jul 2023, 16:49 Who wins if Takam fights Martin?
Old Takam beats every Martin
Then Mak's win over Takam is more valuable than Jared's over Martin, and yet people are voting Jared in and Mak out... :roll:

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 10 Jul 2023, 12:06
by margaret thatcher
a 9-1/8-2 win over martin vs a 6-4/5-5 win over takam (legit win due to the kds though)

i wouldnt say mak's win should make him the higher ranked guy. they have other fights and we also have to look at what we saw in the ring. levels of opposition have been comparable, but i think jah has been more impressive in general. we are talking just a few places at most splitting their positions in the ranking anyway, that's pretty minor.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 10 Jul 2023, 20:45
by gregregegg
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘10 Jul 2023, 11:49
joshj909 wrote: โ†‘09 Jul 2023, 18:22
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘09 Jul 2023, 16:49 Who wins if Takam fights Martin?
Old Takam beats every Martin
Then Mak's win over Takam is more valuable than Jared's over Martin, and yet people are voting Jared in and Mak out... :roll:
Jahs win over jerry forrest was probably as good as makes win over takem. These decisions arnt based on just 1 fight.

I donโ€™t have a huge opinion either way on it, Iโ€™d love them to fight and find outโ€ฆ

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 10 Jul 2023, 22:04
by oogiebe
Anderson showed me a really great jab when I started watching him 4 years ago or so. That and his natural and fluid movement in the ring.

Then like others, he seemed to fall in love with his power vs less than stellar competition. Hopefully his last fight will get him right back on track.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 11 Jul 2023, 17:00
by CMCanavessi
So when are we removing Pulev? It's been a year now...

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 11 Jul 2023, 17:02
by Ruthless-RKO
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘11 Jul 2023, 17:00 So when are we removing Pulev? It's been a year now...
Voting tomorrow.
Heโ€™s being dropped automatically.

No need to vote. Itโ€™s been a year.

Move everyone up one and voting someone in at #15.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 11 Jul 2023, 17:35
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘11 Jul 2023, 17:02
CMCanavessi wrote: โ†‘11 Jul 2023, 17:00 So when are we removing Pulev? It's been a year now...
Voting tomorrow.
Heโ€™s being dropped automatically.

No need to vote. Itโ€™s been a year.

Move everyone up one and voting someone in at #15.
Ngannou in at 15 because he's about to be an undefeated title challenger

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 12 Jul 2023, 04:10
by Ruthless-RKO
Who should I shortlist?

Efe, Mak, Dubois

They the only wrothy ones aren't they?

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 12 Jul 2023, 07:57
by joshj909
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘12 Jul 2023, 04:10 Who should I shortlist?

Efe, Mak, Dubois

They the only wrothy ones aren't they?
I forgot Efe somehow wasn't even in it. Efe and Mak are the only worthy two. Dubois is still quite a way off those two. Takam is probably above Dubois.

Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Jared Anderson / Arslanbek Makhmudov

Posted: 12 Jul 2023, 08:03
by tiny_acres
Ruthless-RKO wrote: โ†‘12 Jul 2023, 04:10 Who should I shortlist?

Efe, Mak, Dubois

They the only wrothy ones aren't they?
Who is Dubois' best win?? Trevor Bryan???
Dubois is not top 15 in my view.