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Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 10:05
by Bigdogsnose
garethhop wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 09:13
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 08:42
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 06:27

He'll be getting plenty of cheddar for topping the bill in Monaco. He keeps busy, puts money in the bank and then moves on. Eddie can't just click his fingers and produce a Superfight for him. That's not how boxing works.
Fcuk me, you sound like a promoter. "Thats not how boxing works". Like a tag line for Ed and Frank for putting on shite shows.

As a fan, who likes watching boxing, i'd have much rather watched cordina against Zelfa or cacace in an arena suitable for a welshman facing a world rated manc or irishman.

Monte carlo shows are shit. No idea what he gets paid, hope its decent. Doesnt feel like he's maximising his profile.

If he wins, and gets foster next, fair play. But it isnt always how boxing works and it aint a superfight. As for eddie, he can barely make any fight these days, never mind a superfight.
Exactly this. Just put two good fights on between 8.30pm and 10.30pm on a Saturday night, in front of a decent atmosphere, with one of the fighters being someone I've heard of before, and if it can be both, that's amazing! That's all I want, on a regular basis. I ain't getting it, that's for sure.
Definitley! And it doesnt feel like rocket science either!

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 10:44
by jwfg
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 08:42
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 06:27
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 04:15

Yeah, read it at the time. Still find it strange if he's getting paid more for this fight than zelfa or cacace, which are both very winnable and would build up his stock more.

After relative obscurity and inactivity he's been on fire recently. Seems daft to have a step down, and who knows this could be a potential banana skin.

Fair play - ultimate goal is unification fights.
He'll be getting plenty of cheddar for topping the bill in Monaco. He keeps busy, puts money in the bank and then moves on. Eddie can't just click his fingers and produce a Superfight for him. That's not how boxing works.
Fcuk me, you sound like a promoter. "Thats not how boxing works". Like a tag line for Ed and Frank for putting on shite shows.

As a fan, who likes watching boxing, i'd have much rather watched cordina against Zelfa or cacace in an arena suitable for a welshman facing a world rated manc or irishman.

Monte carlo shows are shit. No idea what he gets paid, hope its decent. Doesnt feel like he's maximising his profile.

If he wins, and gets foster next, fair play. But it isnt always how boxing works and it aint a superfight. As for eddie, he can barely make any fight these days, never mind a superfight.
Have you ever sat down and talked at length with one of the major boxing promoters?

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 11:22
by Bigdogsnose
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 10:44
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 08:42
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 06:27

He'll be getting plenty of cheddar for topping the bill in Monaco. He keeps busy, puts money in the bank and then moves on. Eddie can't just click his fingers and produce a Superfight for him. That's not how boxing works.
Fcuk me, you sound like a promoter. "Thats not how boxing works". Like a tag line for Ed and Frank for putting on shite shows.

As a fan, who likes watching boxing, i'd have much rather watched cordina against Zelfa or cacace in an arena suitable for a welshman facing a world rated manc or irishman.

Monte carlo shows are shit. No idea what he gets paid, hope its decent. Doesnt feel like he's maximising his profile.

If he wins, and gets foster next, fair play. But it isnt always how boxing works and it aint a superfight. As for eddie, he can barely make any fight these days, never mind a superfight.
Have you ever sat down and talked at length with one of the major boxing promoters?
Nope, and if you have and are likely to do so again, can you please tell them they are doing a wank job

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 12:47
by jwfg
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 11:22
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 10:44
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 08:42
Fcuk me, you sound like a promoter. "Thats not how boxing works". Like a tag line for Ed and Frank for putting on shite shows.

As a fan, who likes watching boxing, i'd have much rather watched cordina against Zelfa or cacace in an arena suitable for a welshman facing a world rated manc or irishman.

Monte carlo shows are shit. No idea what he gets paid, hope its decent. Doesnt feel like he's maximising his profile.

If he wins, and gets foster next, fair play. But it isnt always how boxing works and it aint a superfight. As for eddie, he can barely make any fight these days, never mind a superfight.
Have you ever sat down and talked at length with one of the major boxing promoters?
Nope, and if you have and are likely to do so again, can you please tell them they are doing a wank job
Ooooookay. :roll:

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 31 Oct 2023, 17:09
by SeanBrennan
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 11:22
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 10:44
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 08:42
Fcuk me, you sound like a promoter. "Thats not how boxing works". Like a tag line for Ed and Frank for putting on shite shows.

As a fan, who likes watching boxing, i'd have much rather watched cordina against Zelfa or cacace in an arena suitable for a welshman facing a world rated manc or irishman.

Monte carlo shows are shit. No idea what he gets paid, hope its decent. Doesnt feel like he's maximising his profile.

If he wins, and gets foster next, fair play. But it isnt always how boxing works and it aint a superfight. As for eddie, he can barely make any fight these days, never mind a superfight.
Have you ever sat down and talked at length with one of the major boxing promoters?
Nope, and if you have and are likely to do so again, can you please tell them they are doing a wank job
I'd love that in a transcript of an interview: "I've been asked to feedback, that you sir are doing a job of the utmost wankery".

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 10:26
by jwfg
I really like Souleymane Cissokho, a very nice stylist with a couple of very good wins on the road. Him and Isaias Lucero should be a good fight. Sivenathi Nontshinga is never in a dull one and the Adrian Curiel fight should be no exception. I don't usually like much female boxing, Ramla Ali's rematch with Julissa Alejandra Guzman will be one I'll watch. Cordina's is likely to be an easy one, I just hope it's entertaining.

All in all, I'm looking forward to Saturday's show.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 10:41
by margaret thatcher
its good cissy moved down to welter, he was tiny for 154, was gonna be beaten by someone much lesser a boxer p4p

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:08
by maverick23
I’ll probably watch the card.

These kind of fights are only ok for Cordina if he’s fighting 3/4 times a year. He isn’t so it’s disappointing but may end up a decent fight.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:12
by jwfg
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 10:41 its good cissy moved down to welter, he was tiny for 154, was gonna be beaten by someone much lesser a boxer p4p
Agreed. His style is if Meldrick Taylor and Paulie Malignigi had a love child.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:12
by jwfg
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:08 I’ll probably watch the card.

These kind of fights are only ok for Cordina if he’s fighting 3/4 times a year. He isn’t so it’s disappointing but may end up a decent fight.
Career high purse from what I hear on the vine. :TU:

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:30
by maverick23
jwfg wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:12
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:08 I’ll probably watch the card.

These kind of fights are only ok for Cordina if he’s fighting 3/4 times a year. He isn’t so it’s disappointing but may end up a decent fight.
Career high purse from what I hear on the vine. :TU:
Good for him but I can list about 10 fights at super feather I’d rather watch him have than this one.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 11:34
by jwfg
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:30
jwfg wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:12
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:08 I’ll probably watch the card.

These kind of fights are only ok for Cordina if he’s fighting 3/4 times a year. He isn’t so it’s disappointing but may end up a decent fight.
Career high purse from what I hear on the vine. :TU:
Good for him but I can list about 10 fights at super feather I’d rather watch him have than this one.
Me too, but (in the words of the Rolling Stones) you can't always git wot ya wan-a-want.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 12:04
by cpx2
jwfg wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:12
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 11:08 I’ll probably watch the card.

These kind of fights are only ok for Cordina if he’s fighting 3/4 times a year. He isn’t so it’s disappointing but may end up a decent fight.
Career high purse from what I hear on the vine. :TU:
Wasn't he saying on Twitter earlier when he was asked about fighting Zelfa "that's a hard fight, but I'm not getting paid enough for a hard fight"? Really making more for this than the Rakhimov or Ogawa fights? Site fee must be sizeable

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 02 Nov 2023, 04:08
by Bigdogsnose
Brave move that Ali girl going straight back in with the girl who beat her. The power difference looked considerable, hard to see how she turns it around.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 September 2023

Posted: 02 Nov 2023, 05:35
by stujones
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Jul 2023, 08:04 Joe is 31 now.

Good time to be a world champion.

But Hearn has to deliver better than just some domestic world title in house fights.

He gotta get bigger fights done for him.

Pay the money that’s being Freed up from ‘losing Canelo’ and get the unifications done.
Joe really should be a bit of a superstar, at the very least in the Bernard Dunne kind of mold. Exciting style of late, good looking, good talker and seems to be a nice guy. Many of us said he would be Wales' next world champion as soon as he turned pro but it just hasn't kicked on for him really with the mass public.

I really do blame the restrictive viewing of DAZN for this.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 September 2023

Posted: 02 Nov 2023, 05:40
by jwfg
stujones wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 05:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Jul 2023, 08:04 Joe is 31 now.

Good time to be a world champion.

But Hearn has to deliver better than just some domestic world title in house fights.

He gotta get bigger fights done for him.

Pay the money that’s being Freed up from ‘losing Canelo’ and get the unifications done.
Joe really should be a bit of a superstar, at the very least in the Bernard Dunne kind of mold. Exciting style of late, good looking, good talker and seems to be a nice guy. Many of us said he would be Wales' next world champion as soon as he turned pro but it just hasn't kicked on for him really with the mass public.

I really do blame the restrictive viewing of DAZN for this.
In all fairness, he's the IBF super featherweight champion. He'd have to do something really special to turn that into superstardom. How many of the IBF SF champs of the past are classed as superstars?

Re: Joe Cordina vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 September 2023

Posted: 02 Nov 2023, 06:00
by stujones
jwfg wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 05:40
stujones wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 05:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Jul 2023, 08:04 Joe is 31 now.

Good time to be a world champion.

But Hearn has to deliver better than just some domestic world title in house fights.

He gotta get bigger fights done for him.

Pay the money that’s being Freed up from ‘losing Canelo’ and get the unifications done.
Joe really should be a bit of a superstar, at the very least in the Bernard Dunne kind of mold. Exciting style of late, good looking, good talker and seems to be a nice guy. Many of us said he would be Wales' next world champion as soon as he turned pro but it just hasn't kicked on for him really with the mass public.

I really do blame the restrictive viewing of DAZN for this.
In all fairness, he's the IBF super featherweight champion. He'd have to do something really special to turn that into superstardom. How many of the IBF SF champs of the past are classed as superstars?
Steve Robinson was a WBO champion when WBO was very disregarded.

Bernard Dunne was Super Bantam Champion (and wasn't it a vacant title?)

Both I would consider bigger stars than Cordina.

Frampton also was a bigger star even before he bagged a world title.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. TBA | DAZN - 30 September 2023

Posted: 02 Nov 2023, 07:00
by jwfg
stujones wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 06:00
jwfg wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 05:40
stujones wrote: 02 Nov 2023, 05:35

Joe really should be a bit of a superstar, at the very least in the Bernard Dunne kind of mold. Exciting style of late, good looking, good talker and seems to be a nice guy. Many of us said he would be Wales' next world champion as soon as he turned pro but it just hasn't kicked on for him really with the mass public.

I really do blame the restrictive viewing of DAZN for this.
In all fairness, he's the IBF super featherweight champion. He'd have to do something really special to turn that into superstardom. How many of the IBF SF champs of the past are classed as superstars?
Steve Robinson was a WBO champion when WBO was very disregarded.

Bernard Dunne was Super Bantam Champion (and wasn't it a vacant title?)

Both I would consider bigger stars than Cordina.

Frampton also was a bigger star even before he bagged a world title.
I agree. The Welsh love their own, so hopefully Joe can crossover. He doesn't have the Cinderella story that Robinson did.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 02 Nov 2023, 07:39
by damage
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 11:22
jwfg wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 10:44
Bigdogsnose wrote: 31 Oct 2023, 08:42
Fcuk me, you sound like a promoter. "Thats not how boxing works". Like a tag line for Ed and Frank for putting on shite shows.

As a fan, who likes watching boxing, i'd have much rather watched cordina against Zelfa or cacace in an arena suitable for a welshman facing a world rated manc or irishman.

Monte carlo shows are shit. No idea what he gets paid, hope its decent. Doesnt feel like he's maximising his profile.

If he wins, and gets foster next, fair play. But it isnt always how boxing works and it aint a superfight. As for eddie, he can barely make any fight these days, never mind a superfight.
Have you ever sat down and talked at length with one of the major boxing promoters?
Nope, and if you have and are likely to do so again, can you please tell them they are doing a wank job
:TU:

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 03 Nov 2023, 14:41
by Ruthless-RKO
Cordina came in a 129.9 pounds for his first defense of the IBF junior lightweight title he won for the second time in his last fight.

Vazquez, the ninth-ranked challenger for Cordina’s crown, officially weighed 128.8 pounds.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 03 Nov 2023, 14:50
by jwfg
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 03 Nov 2023, 14:41 Cordina came in a 129.9 pounds for his first defense of the IBF junior lightweight title he won for the second time in his last fight.

Vazquez, the ninth-ranked challenger for Cordina’s crown, officially weighed 128.8 pounds.
That was an intense stare down at the weigh in.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 03 Nov 2023, 16:25
by Glass Joe


pre fight build up :OhYes:

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 04 Nov 2023, 07:11
by Ruthless-RKO
Fight Night!! :box:

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 04 Nov 2023, 07:11
by Ruthless-RKO
Glass Joe wrote: 03 Nov 2023, 16:25

pre fight build up :OhYes:
Hearn really does had Benn hanging off his left bollock.

Re: Joe Cordina vs. Edward Vazquez | DAZN - 4 November 2023

Posted: 04 Nov 2023, 08:12
by Ruthless-RKO
Only 4 fights on the card.

No YouTube prelims