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spudder56 wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 08:06 My advice to the original poster would be if you think you will make any money whatsoever treat it as a business that’s what boxing forget any ideas that you’re entering a sport boxing is and always has been a business albeit a very desperate dirty business best of luck to you

And just remember all the freinds you THINK your making will desert you once there not on your shows or making a quid off you , or if you go broke , or lose money ,,

Coneye is 100% correct same as in business there are no friends in boxing

spudder56 wrote: ↑02 Aug 2023, 08:35 Coneye is 100% correct same as in business there are no friends in boxing

Well there are , i can't really say that , because a lot of my freinds are from boxing life long freinds , BUT they were all my boxers , at one stage or another most still keep in contact with me , . But then again these are guys who at 13 i would put in my car and drive 500 mile to get them a fight , train them 4 nights a week , they were more like sons , , then 10 years later when some were pro's , we would jump on the plane and fly 2000 klm for them to fight , and i would'nt take my split because i knew they needed the money more than me . Some i see regular still , some still ring regular all i'm still mates with ,
All knew they could trust me with there life , because they were , all knew that it did'nt matter how far we travelled , pro or ameteur , if we got there and the matchmaker had switched opponents , giving me a heavier kid or seeking an home town advantage for whatever reason , i would'nt hesitate to say get fooked were going home , (it happenned often ) .

Thats the good part of boxing , promting shows the bad part

Do a white collar event. At the low level profit margins must be much better.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 06:40 Do a white collar event. At the low level profit margins must be much better.

Yeh, will be a lot of young lads wanting to get involved.

high tower 1 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 06:40 Do a white collar event. At the low level profit margins must be much better.

Good idea, it's wages that kill in boxing and you can get these fighters for free.
In fact do a deal with a local gym where fighters pay for a 10 week training camp.
It all generates interest
Do the show at a local nightclub on like Tues, they will do it for free as they are normally closed and will make money at the bar.
Even do a dinner show where folk have to dress up, make it an event.

Not a fan of the unlicensed circuit myself so whilst it is way cheaper as wages is usually £5 per ticket sold, I’d rather you pursued being a pro promoter or better, got involved with an amateur club and use a relatively modest sum helping them to put on some decent home shows

He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

Loads of red tape, too. And the fights can be a lot more competitive and entertaining on white collar. If you pay, you will get exactly what you ask for. The last one i went to had a much better atmosphere than the last pro show. You will need someone who knows the local scene, though, the bad are very bad and the good are pretty decent, it can go wrong if badly matched.

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

White collar can be decent. Plenty of good amateurs like to have a crack at it for the razzmatazz and to sell a few tickets.

To be fair if he’s unconcerned about money then he’s in the right business and he’ll be soon relieved of it

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 11:28

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

Loads of red tape, too. And the fights can be a lot more competitive and entertaining on white collar. If you pay, you will get exactly what you ask for. The last one i went to had a much better atmosphere than the last pro show. You will need someone who knows the local scene, though, the bad are very bad and the good are pretty decent, it can go wrong if badly matched.

Could not agree more. I took part in an event a few years ago with 20+ fights on, and whilst most matches were fine, there were some absolute horror show mismatches where they were lucky not to get the loser badly hurt. Unlike the pros, a matchmaker can't make an educated guess without having seen the fighters because there aren't any proper records. And of course no proper medical.

dookus wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 11:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 11:28

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

Loads of red tape, too. And the fights can be a lot more competitive and entertaining on white collar. If you pay, you will get exactly what you ask for. The last one i went to had a much better atmosphere than the last pro show. You will need someone who knows the local scene, though, the bad are very bad and the good are pretty decent, it can go wrong if badly matched.

Could not agree more. I took part in an event a few years ago with 20+ fights on, and whilst most matches were fine, there were some absolute horror show mismatches where they were lucky not to get the loser badly hurt. Unlike the pros, a matchmaker can't make an educated guess without having seen the fighters because there aren't any proper records. And of course no proper medical.

I've watched a few through my fingers. A decent ex pro, who is forty odd, fat and bald, wasted a string of them who didn't have a clue who he was. He wanted better but the good lads wanted a lot more to take him on.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 11:58

dookus wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 11:51

mickey1975 wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 11:28
Loads of red tape, too. And the fights can be a lot more competitive and entertaining on white collar. If you pay, you will get exactly what you ask for. The last one i went to had a much better atmosphere than the last pro show. You will need someone who knows the local scene, though, the bad are very bad and the good are pretty decent, it can go wrong if badly matched.

Could not agree more. I took part in an event a few years ago with 20+ fights on, and whilst most matches were fine, there were some absolute horror show mismatches where they were lucky not to get the loser badly hurt. Unlike the pros, a matchmaker can't make an educated guess without having seen the fighters because there aren't any proper records. And of course no proper medical.

I've watched a few through my fingers. A decent ex pro, who is forty odd, fat and bald, wasted a string of them who didn't have a clue who he was. He wanted better but the good lads wanted a lot more to take him on.

Sounds like the good lads knew how to use Google!

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

Could be a reasonable apprenticeship into the world of promotioning

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 16:05

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

Could be a reasonable apprenticeship into the world of promotioning

Do the board still hold it against people if they have been involved in the white collar world?

Wake up call wrote: ↑10 Aug 2023, 10:58

Coco wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 16:05

Frostieballs wrote: ↑03 Aug 2023, 10:13 He is clearly a fan of boxing and unconcerned about money - so I wouldn't think White Collar fits.

Could be a reasonable apprenticeship into the world of promotioning

Do the board still hold it against people if they have been involved in the white collar world?

I don't think so, as long you are a sensible bloke, pay your subs, do the interview well, never hurt FW