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fizzjambo wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 12:42
Everyone else Chisora could beat. He’s inconsistent though so I don’t think he’d win all of them on the spin in reality

That's exactly the point. Whatever order you put them in, Chisora would win maximum two in row before throwing in one of his "meh" performances.

olij999 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 11:52

fizzjambo wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 12:42
Everyone else Chisora could beat. He’s inconsistent though so I don’t think he’d win all of them on the spin in reality

That's exactly the point. Whatever order you put them in, Chisora would win maximum two in row before throwing in one of his "meh" performances.

meh would be enough to get it done vs most of that list i think. he was very meh in beating gerald washington for example

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 13:11

olij999 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 11:52

fizzjambo wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 12:42
Everyone else Chisora could beat. He’s inconsistent though so I don’t think he’d win all of them on the spin in reality

That's exactly the point. Whatever order you put them in, Chisora would win maximum two in row before throwing in one of his "meh" performances.

meh would be enough to get it done vs most of that list i think. he was very meh in beating gerald washington for example

You think he could've beaten Stiverne the 1st time with a Meh performance?

I was going over that possibility in my head myself. He definitely beats the Stiverne from the rematch, but the Stiverne from the initial title win might've been more difficult.

I'd still probably favor Chis though.

gilgamesh wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 13:15

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 13:11

olij999 wrote: ↑22 Aug 2023, 11:52

That's exactly the point. Whatever order you put them in, Chisora would win maximum two in row before throwing in one of his "meh" performances.

meh would be enough to get it done vs most of that list i think. he was very meh in beating gerald washington for example

You think he could've beaten Stiverne the 1st time with a Meh performance?

I was going over that possibility in my head myself. He definitely beats the Stiverne from the rematch, but the Stiverne from the initial title win might've been more difficult.

I'd still probably favor Chis though.

prime stiverne could beat chisora. but stiverne was also a super lazy fighter and a one opponent wonder (arreola) who fell short even against jouryneymen. i think chizz even on a meh night would have a good shot, since stiverne didnt have the work rate or mobility to make chizzy pay for any laziness of his own. though definitely a harder fight for chizz. stiverne when he actually put shots together had some decent hands. that wouldve been a decent match

as far as the stiverne that wilder defended against, EZ werk for del

Yeah that was always Stiverne's thing. He had legitimate power, he was just pretty damn lazy and had a really low punch output.

Stiverne in the two fights vs Arreola was good but after the 18 month absence he was sh1te. The Stiverne that Wilder beat to win the title was a tough proposition but the rematch he was pony.

well, i guess neither wilder nor chisora could compete with joe parker

wilder has now won 50 percent of his fights vs top 10 opposition, still better than chizzy

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Dec 2023, 20:15 well, i guess neither wilder nor chisora could compete with joe parker

wilder has now won 50 percent of his fights vs top 10 opposition, still better than chizzy

Is Chisora's best win (Takam) better then Wilder's best win (Ortiz)?

luis ortiz is a heavyweight great who would beat all fighters accept tyson fury and deontay wilder, so no

Bar Ortiz, I'd fancy Del Boy against most of them.

Only Ortiz would beat a peak Chisora. He would have a good go at beating the rest on the list.

Fury's stock went down a bit after last night. Wilder got schooled by Parker and Joshua never came out of first gear against Wallin. If Fury loses to Usyk, oh boy, his legacy is in tatters.

NazNaci1 wrote: ↑23 Dec 2023, 22:03 Bar Ortiz, I'd fancy Del Boy against most of them.

I thought only a few but then went on his boxrec record and I agree, I think only Ortiz.

6 or 7.

Actually, only Ortiz was better for sure. But Chisora can underperform sometimes, so Breazeale or Duhaupas could score wins.

fizzjambo wrote: ↑13 Aug 2023, 12:42 Ortiz would beat him handily enough, to skilled.

Everyone else Chisora could beat. He’s inconsistent though so I don’t think he’d win all of them on the spin in reality

I'd say the same about Ortiz beating Wilder but he had two chances and lost. He won every round except the rounds he got dropped in but he still lost. Wilder is barely gatekeeper level in a good era. I'd take Chisora to get to Ortiz. I know he'd be the underdog.

After many years it's great to see people finally realizing how poor Wilder is.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑26 Dec 2023, 10:56 After many years it's great to see people finally realizing how poor Wilder is.

He’s never been technically good but he was really bad the other night, he looks like a shot fighter now

think Ortiz vs a prime Chisora is no gimmie for Ortiz. Who did he beat exactly?

stujones wrote: ↑26 Dec 2023, 11:48 think Ortiz vs a prime Chisora is no gimmie for Ortiz. Who did he beat exactly?

genuine question - what do people think was prime Chisora? Long career with very early world title shot.

It's hard to determine Chisora's prime. He could give a fight and underperform in the next one. He was surely around his prime, when he was outclassed by Fury in the 2nd bout, by Kabayel and by Pulev in the 1st bout. I guess, he began to fade significantly circa the Parker fights.

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Dec 2023, 03:34 It's hard to determine Chisora's prime. He could give a fight and underperform in the next one. He was surely around his prime, when he was outclassed by Fury in the 2nd bout, by Kabayel and by Pulev in the 1st bout. I guess, he began to fade significantly circa the Parker fights.

thanks Duke. He had peaks and troughs didn't he which made it harder to gauge.

the legend of finchley's sexiest man grows even more

All of them on that list are definitely beatable - Ortiz obviously looks the best of the bunch, but who's he ever beat? Massively overrated.

I'd have Chisora over all of the rest, and hold off the bets on Ortiz. See that as a 50/50 fight.

He could've beaten any of 'em except for maybe Ortiz. Even Ortiz he has some chance against, but I'd make Ortiz the favorite.