BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Keep them coming.

Poll is til tomorrow.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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I am taking into consideration the votes for Hrg above 9.

as it stands.. Joshua remains at #3

Hrgovic is up to #9
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:15 Hrgovic is up to #9
?? It looks like you're awarding the voting option with the most votes rather than the voting median. Seems like an incorrect system. 16 people think he should be higher than #10, 16 think he should be lower than #10, 4 think he should be #10. That's a #10 fighter. If the only options in the poll were Hrgovic #9 and Hrgovic #10, then #9 would have 16 votes and #10 would have 20 votes.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Lackeos wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:43
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:15 Hrgovic is up to #9
?? It looks like you're awarding the voting option with the most votes rather than the voting median. Seems like an incorrect system. 16 people think he should be higher than #10, 16 think he should be lower than #10, 4 think he should be #10. That's a #10 fighter. If the only options in the poll were Hrgovic #9 and Hrgovic #10, then #9 would have 16 votes and #10 would have 20 votes.
I am using median.

Some voters have clearly stated they want Hrgovic at #4, #5 and #8.

two votes for #4 actually.. You tell me where does he rank median?
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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The median would be hrgovoc to 10. But given the popularity of hrg 9 or more it feels ok.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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gregregegg wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 04:35 The median would be hrgovoc to 10. But given the popularity of hrg 9 or more it feels ok.
if you count from the top it's #9, if you count from the bottom it's #10

Let's see us get more votes first
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Tbh I assumed there would be another vote as to how high Hrgovic would go.

I voted "9 or above" and originally said somewhere in the top 10, but to be more specific I vote to place him at #7.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Finkel wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 08:38 Tbh I assumed there would be another vote as to how high Hrgovic would go.

I voted "9 or above" and originally said somewhere in the top 10, but to be more specific I vote to place him at #7.
I am factoring those.

A few have said 4th and 5th.. so I’m taking that into account.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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:TU:
To be honest, a few of us coming back to write in the ranking is highly unlikely to affect anything. It's either 9 or 10 at this point. And given you set the voting parameters, if you feel 9 is more appropriate than 10, that's good enough for me.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Finkel wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 09:19 :TU:
To be honest, a few of us coming back to write in the ranking is highly unlikely to affect anything. It's either 9 or 10 at this point. And given you set the voting parameters, if you feel 9 is more appropriate than 10, that's good enough for me.
The comments are always open if anyone does want him above..
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 04:07
Lackeos wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:43
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:15 Hrgovic is up to #9
?? It looks like you're awarding the voting option with the most votes rather than the voting median. Seems like an incorrect system. 16 people think he should be higher than #10, 16 think he should be lower than #10, 4 think he should be #10. That's a #10 fighter. If the only options in the poll were Hrgovic #9 and Hrgovic #10, then #9 would have 16 votes and #10 would have 20 votes.
I am using median.

Some voters have clearly stated they want Hrgovic at #4, #5 and #8.

two votes for #4 actually.. You tell me where does he rank median?
Oh, if you're accounting for comment votes that don't appear in the poll, then never mind
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Doesn‘t really matter if #9 or #10, because we should remove Whyte anyway. If he somehow proves that he is not guilty und fights again whitout pissing hot for a fourth time, we can put him back into the rankings.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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These are the votes counted for Hrg

4, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 10, 11, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 12, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13

Mean= 10.135135135135
Median = 10
Mode = 9
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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The vote is over.

Changes Current ranking:
Image 🇬🇧 Tyson Fury - 33(24) 0 1 - next fight: 28.10.2023 vs. 🇫🇷 Francis Ngannou - 17(12) 3 0* - (Unranked, Inactive)

2. 🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk - 20(13) 0 0 - next fight: 26.08.2023 vs. 🇬🇧 Daniel Dubois - 19(18) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #6)

3. 🇬🇧 Anthony Joshua - 26(23) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

4. 🇺🇸 Deontay Wilder - 43(42) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

5. 🇨🇳 Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. 🇬🇧 Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

6. 🇲🇽 Andy Ruiz Jr - 35(22) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. 🇬🇧 Joe Joyce - 15(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.09.2023 vs. 🇨🇳 Zhilei Zhang - 25(20) 1(0) 1 - (#5)

8. 🇳🇿 Joseph Parker - 32(22) 3(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. 🇬🇧 Dillian Whyte - 29(19) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA - (Failed Drug Test)

10. 🇭🇷 Filip Hrgovic - 16(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

11. 🇨🇩 Martin Bakole - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. 🇨🇺 Frank Sanchez - 22(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. 🇨🇺 Luis Ortiz - 33(28) 3(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. 🇺🇸 Jared Anderson - 15(14) 0 0 - next fight: 26.08.2023 vs. 🇺🇦 Andrii Rudenko - 35(21) 6(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #159)

15. 🇷🇺 Arslanbek Makhmudov - 17(16) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

* MMA record
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

Cancelled - 🇨🇦 Simon Kean - 23(22) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #38) vs. 🇮🇹 Guido Vianello - 10(9) 1(1) 1 - (BoxRec's #159)

26.08.2023 - 🇳🇬 Efe Ajagba - 17(13) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #20) vs. 🇰🇿 Zhan Kossobutskiy - 19(18) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #29)

26.08.2023 - 🇺🇿 Bakhodir Jalolov - 12(12) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #46) vs. 🇳🇬 Onoriode Ehwarieme - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - (inactive)

02.09.2023 - 🇬🇧 Frazer Clarke - 7(5) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #41) vs. 🇬🇧 David Allen - 21(18) 5(3) 2 - (BoxRec's #68)
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Aug 2023, 16:55 Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

Cancelled - 🇨🇦 Simon Kean - 23(22) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #38) vs. 🇮🇹 Guido Vianello - 10(9) 1(1) 1 - (BoxRec's #159)

26.08.2023 - 🇳🇬 Efe Ajagba - 17(13) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #20) vs. 🇰🇿 Zhan Kossobutskiy - 19(18) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #29)

26.08.2023 - 🇺🇿 Bakhodir Jalolov - 12(12) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #46) vs. 🇳🇬 Onoriode Ehwarieme - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - (inactive)

02.09.2023 - 🇬🇧 Frazer Clarke - 7(5) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #41) vs. 🇬🇧 David Allen - 21(18) 5(3) 2 - (BoxRec's #68)
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Interesting how those boxrec ranks have changed. Dave from 68 to 105 is a huge change in rank. Interestingly Clarkes rank improved.

Zhan vs efe is a very very good matchup. One of the best “winner will be top 15” set ups I’ve seen in a while.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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gregregegg wrote: 19 Aug 2023, 20:04
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Aug 2023, 16:55 Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

Cancelled - 🇨🇦 Simon Kean - 23(22) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #38) vs. 🇮🇹 Guido Vianello - 10(9) 1(1) 1 - (BoxRec's #159)

26.08.2023 - 🇳🇬 Efe Ajagba - 17(13) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #20) vs. 🇰🇿 Zhan Kossobutskiy - 19(18) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #29)

26.08.2023 - 🇺🇿 Bakhodir Jalolov - 12(12) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #46) vs. 🇳🇬 Onoriode Ehwarieme - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - (inactive)

02.09.2023 - 🇬🇧 Frazer Clarke - 7(5) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #41) vs. 🇬🇧 David Allen - 21(18) 5(3) 2 - (BoxRec's #68)
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Interesting how those boxrec ranks have changed. Dave from 68 to 105 is a huge change in rank. Interestingly Clarkes rank improved.

Zhan vs efe is a very very good matchup. One of the best “winner will be top 15” set ups I’ve seen in a while.
Agree on the Ajagba/Zhan fight. It has top 15 impact for certain.
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Re: BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Joshua vs. Helenius | Hrgovic vs. McKean

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gregregegg wrote: 19 Aug 2023, 20:04
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 19 Aug 2023, 16:55 Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

Cancelled - 🇨🇦 Simon Kean - 23(22) 1(1) 0 - (BoxRec's #38) vs. 🇮🇹 Guido Vianello - 10(9) 1(1) 1 - (BoxRec's #159)

26.08.2023 - 🇳🇬 Efe Ajagba - 17(13) 1(0) 0 - (BoxRec's #20) vs. 🇰🇿 Zhan Kossobutskiy - 19(18) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #29)

26.08.2023 - 🇺🇿 Bakhodir Jalolov - 12(12) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #46) vs. 🇳🇬 Onoriode Ehwarieme - 20(19) 2(2) 0 - (inactive)

02.09.2023 - 🇬🇧 Frazer Clarke - 7(5) 0 0 - (BoxRec's #41) vs. 🇬🇧 David Allen - 21(18) 5(3) 2 - (BoxRec's #68)
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Interesting how those boxrec ranks have changed. Dave from 68 to 105 is a huge change in rank. Interestingly Clarkes rank improved.

Zhan vs efe is a very very good matchup. One of the best “winner will be top 15” set ups I’ve seen in a while.
Yeh not had a chance to update.

Efe has tasted top 15 recently as wel.
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