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Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2023, 20:17
by margaret thatcher
The Gratest wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 14:01
margaret thatcher wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 13:25
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 05:13

High risk? Why, because Eddie Hearn said? Fury absolutely toyed with Whyte. Made him look 3rd rate and at this stage he probably is.
Should've scheduled Gerald Washington instead of Whyte, that would get you excited :lol:

Heck , why not make AJ vs Washington next? wouldnt dislike that one right!
I betcha can't guess who wrote this margaret! Go on, give it a go.... :OhYes:
Most seem to think it will be Washington who steps in. Absolute joke if it is. Washington is 41 years old and hasn't won a fight in over 4 years!

If anyone even considers parting with money to watch AJ-Washington you are part of the reason boxing is in such a sh1t state.
:lol:

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2023, 20:19
by margaret thatcher
:clap:
Redback Rasta wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 22:04
gregregegg wrote: 15 Aug 2023, 21:52 Probably Washington.
I don't dislike Washington as the choice.
Redback Rasta wrote: 06 Aug 2023, 20:59 Most seem to think it will be Washington who steps in. Absolute joke if it is. Washington is 41 years old and hasn't won a fight in over 4 years!

If anyone even considers parting with money to watch AJ-Washington you are part of the reason boxing is in such a sh1t state.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2023, 21:04
by Redback Rasta
I got wires crossed between Franklin and Washington :TU:

If that's a hangable offence I'll get my affairs in order :lol:

Good luck with your next cyber investigation :clap:

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 17 Aug 2023, 21:29
by margaret thatcher
we get it, one thing for wilder and fury, another for aj

boooomb squuuuuaaaad :TU:

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2023, 02:01
by The Gratest
I do dislike this pitiful excuse.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2023, 02:21
by Redback Rasta
There' appears to be a bit of a staring competition going on between Wilder and Joshua's camps at the moment.

Will Wilder even fight before meeting Joshua next year? He seems to want a fight in October but Hearn saying that would 'concern him' as he would rather see Wilder fight in September. I seriously doubt that worries Wilder.

Hearn says he has met with the Saudis a number of times, including twice over in Saudi Arabia, and is now putting a 2 to 3 week timeframe on wrapping the Wilder fight up. Otherwise he will 'look at a November/December fight for Joshua'.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2023, 03:51
by Lackeos
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 18:43 That first Joshua-Whyte fight was in 2015. That's 8 years ago and we have seen how 'dangerous' Whyte is in his recent fights. His decline has been dramatic. Best emphasized by Fury, who absolutely schooled him.
?? Bro. It's f*cking Tyson Fury! He schooled Wilder! He schooled Klitschko! You're out of your mind if you think that losing to the best fighter in the division is evidence of how weak a contender is. Do you think Stephen Fulton is shot just because Naoya Inoue stopped him in 8? Is Errol Spence trash just because Terrence Crawford stopped him in 9? Is Daniel Dubois shot because Joe Joyce stopped him? Is every fighter in the whole sport shot?

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 18 Aug 2023, 05:14
by Redback Rasta
Lackeos wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:51
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 18:43 That first Joshua-Whyte fight was in 2015. That's 8 years ago and we have seen how 'dangerous' Whyte is in his recent fights. His decline has been dramatic. Best emphasized by Fury, who absolutely schooled him.
?? Bro. It's f*cking Tyson Fury! He schooled Wilder! He schooled Klitschko! You're out of your mind if you think that losing to the best fighter in the division is evidence of how weak a contender is. Do you think Stephen Fulton is shot just because Naoya Inoue stopped him in 8? Is Errol Spence trash just because Terrence Crawford stopped him in 9? Is Daniel Dubois shot because Joe Joyce stopped him? Is every fighter in the whole sport shot?
Whyte's performance against Fury - or lack of it - is only part of what I base his decline on, but it is the most dramatic part. He has been very ordinary for years now.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 19 Aug 2023, 17:28
by Thomastearns
Redback Rasta wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 02:21 There' appears to be a bit of a staring competition going on between Wilder and Joshua's camps at the moment.

Will Wilder even fight before meeting Joshua next year? He seems to want a fight in October but Hearn saying that would 'concern him' as he would rather see Wilder fight in September. I seriously doubt that worries Wilder.

Hearn says he has met with the Saudis a number of times, including twice over in Saudi Arabia, and is now putting a 2 to 3 week timeframe on wrapping the Wilder fight up. Otherwise he will 'look at a November/December fight for Joshua'.

Let's hope so. Joshua v Wilder would be a great way to start the new boxing year.

A lot depends upon just what the WBC cancelling the Wilder v Ruiz matchup really means.

Does it mean paving the road clear to a Joshua v Wilder fight, which would be a great way to start the new boxing year?

Or does it mean they're simply continuing to bend over backwards to please Tyson Fury by allowing him to hold their belt whilst still hand picking soft targets?

2024 will be 2 years without facing a mandatory.


Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 19 Aug 2023, 19:28
by Redback Rasta
Thomastearns wrote: 19 Aug 2023, 17:28
Redback Rasta wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 02:21 There' appears to be a bit of a staring competition going on between Wilder and Joshua's camps at the moment.

Will Wilder even fight before meeting Joshua next year? He seems to want a fight in October but Hearn saying that would 'concern him' as he would rather see Wilder fight in September. I seriously doubt that worries Wilder.

Hearn says he has met with the Saudis a number of times, including twice over in Saudi Arabia, and is now putting a 2 to 3 week timeframe on wrapping the Wilder fight up. Otherwise he will 'look at a November/December fight for Joshua'.

Let's hope so. Joshua v Wilder would be a great way to start the new boxing year.

A lot depends upon just what the WBC cancelling the Wilder v Ruiz matchup really means.

Does it mean paving the road clear to a Joshua v Wilder fight, which would be a great way to start the new boxing year?

Or does it mean they're simply continuing to bend over backwards to please Tyson Fury by allowing him to hold their belt whilst still hand picking soft targets?

2024 will be 2 years without facing a mandatory.

Sulaimán. made a statement a while back to the effect of 'WBC champion Fury has repeatedly attempted to make fights but couldn't' and that it was on that basis that the WBC was giving Fury the green light to fight Ngannou.

The combination of Wilder and Ruiz's reluctance to get in the ring and resolve the mandatory position and the flickering vision of the mirage in the Saudi Arabian desert, are major contributors to where things sit.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 20 Aug 2023, 06:42
by Nightmare Roy
Make AJ Wilder a final eliminator for the WBC easy then.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ? - Duck duck goose.

Posted: 20 Aug 2023, 06:52
by quickeyg
Why post that pro joshua pro matchroom plonkers video? Hateman h**dj*bs his mother I call him.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 20 Aug 2023, 08:18
by jwfg
What's Charlie Z doing these days? :maybe:

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 21 Aug 2023, 11:35
by Thomastearns
Their rematch is probably going to feature as one of Wilder's testimonial fights.

Last time I heard Charlie wasn't doing so well, so perhaps the money could prove useful.


If Wilder doesn't fight Joshua, especially after pulling out of the Ruiz fight, then he's joining his pal Fury as a sham HW.

Fingers crossed that the Saudi money is just too big to refuse for Deontay.

It's got to be biggest payday left to him.

Just sign it.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 21 Aug 2023, 14:57
by Bandog
Lackeos wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:51
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 18:43 That first Joshua-Whyte fight was in 2015. That's 8 years ago and we have seen how 'dangerous' Whyte is in his recent fights. His decline has been dramatic. Best emphasized by Fury, who absolutely schooled him.
?? Bro. It's f*cking Tyson Fury! He schooled Wilder! He schooled Klitschko! You're out of your mind if you think that losing to the best fighter in the division is evidence of how weak a contender is. Do you think Stephen Fulton is shot just because Naoya Inoue stopped him in 8? Is Errol Spence trash just because Terrence Crawford stopped him in 9? Is Daniel Dubois shot because Joe Joyce stopped him? Is every fighter in the whole sport shot?
There was no schooling going on in Fury vs Wlad. Fury was just slightly less pathetic than Wlad.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2023, 12:15
by Thomastearns
Bandog wrote: 21 Aug 2023, 14:57
Lackeos wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:51
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 18:43 That first Joshua-Whyte fight was in 2015. That's 8 years ago and we have seen how 'dangerous' Whyte is in his recent fights. His decline has been dramatic. Best emphasized by Fury, who absolutely schooled him.
?? Bro. It's f*cking Tyson Fury! He schooled Wilder! He schooled Klitschko! You're out of your mind if you think that losing to the best fighter in the division is evidence of how weak a contender is. Do you think Stephen Fulton is shot just because Naoya Inoue stopped him in 8? Is Errol Spence trash just because Terrence Crawford stopped him in 9? Is Daniel Dubois shot because Joe Joyce stopped him? Is every fighter in the whole sport shot?
There was no schooling going on in Fury vs Wlad. Fury was just slightly less pathetic than Wlad.

One of the worst title fights of recent times. A distracted Klitschko against a juiced up lightning fast Fury in 12 rounds of contact free boxing.

And let's not forget the lengths Fury went to in avoiding their contracted rematch.

Or the fact that Klitschko was unaware of Fury's failed tests.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 22 Aug 2023, 16:59
by KiwiRider
Thomastearns wrote: 22 Aug 2023, 12:15
Bandog wrote: 21 Aug 2023, 14:57
Lackeos wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:51
?? Bro. It's f*cking Tyson Fury! He schooled Wilder! He schooled Klitschko! You're out of your mind if you think that losing to the best fighter in the division is evidence of how weak a contender is. Do you think Stephen Fulton is shot just because Naoya Inoue stopped him in 8? Is Errol Spence trash just because Terrence Crawford stopped him in 9? Is Daniel Dubois shot because Joe Joyce stopped him? Is every fighter in the whole sport shot?
There was no schooling going on in Fury vs Wlad. Fury was just slightly less pathetic than Wlad.

One of the worst title fights of recent times. A distracted Klitschko against a juiced up lightning fast Fury in 12 rounds of contact free boxing.

And let's not forget the lengths Fury went to in avoiding their contracted rematch.

Or the fact that Klitschko was unaware of Fury's failed tests.
You have a way with words. :salut:
I can use one: snoozefest.
Or: :zzz:

:wave:

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2023, 12:35
by jwfg
KiwiRider wrote: 22 Aug 2023, 16:59
Thomastearns wrote: 22 Aug 2023, 12:15
Bandog wrote: 21 Aug 2023, 14:57

There was no schooling going on in Fury vs Wlad. Fury was just slightly less pathetic than Wlad.

One of the worst title fights of recent times. A distracted Klitschko against a juiced up lightning fast Fury in 12 rounds of contact free boxing.

And let's not forget the lengths Fury went to in avoiding their contracted rematch.

Or the fact that Klitschko was unaware of Fury's failed tests.
You have a way with words. :salut:
I can use one: snoozefest.
Or: :zzz:

:wave:
Fury landed just over 7 punches per round on average.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2023, 13:16
by oogiebe
jwfg wrote: 23 Aug 2023, 12:35
KiwiRider wrote: 22 Aug 2023, 16:59
Thomastearns wrote: 22 Aug 2023, 12:15


One of the worst title fights of recent times. A distracted Klitschko against a juiced up lightning fast Fury in 12 rounds of contact free boxing.

And let's not forget the lengths Fury went to in avoiding their contracted rematch.

Or the fact that Klitschko was unaware of Fury's failed tests.
You have a way with words. :salut:
I can use one: snoozefest.
Or: :zzz:

:wave:
Fury landed just over 7 punches per round on average.
Yeah quite exciting fight:
Fury landed just 86 of 371 punches he threw, meaning his connect percentage for the 12-round fight was 23%. Klitschko's ratio was just as low. He only landed 52 of 231 shots

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 23 Aug 2023, 20:47
by Perseus
Bandog wrote: 21 Aug 2023, 14:57
Lackeos wrote: 18 Aug 2023, 03:51
Redback Rasta wrote: 17 Aug 2023, 18:43 That first Joshua-Whyte fight was in 2015. That's 8 years ago and we have seen how 'dangerous' Whyte is in his recent fights. His decline has been dramatic. Best emphasized by Fury, who absolutely schooled him.
?? Bro. It's f*cking Tyson Fury! He schooled Wilder! He schooled Klitschko! You're out of your mind if you think that losing to the best fighter in the division is evidence of how weak a contender is. Do you think Stephen Fulton is shot just because Naoya Inoue stopped him in 8? Is Errol Spence trash just because Terrence Crawford stopped him in 9? Is Daniel Dubois shot because Joe Joyce stopped him? Is every fighter in the whole sport shot?
There was no schooling going on in Fury vs Wlad. Fury was just slightly less pathetic than Wlad.
:TU: :TU:

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2023, 13:38
by adislav123
sure a shit fight to watch, but fury flawlessly executed a perfect gameplan and did everything he had to do to dethrone klit who was the heavyweight ruler of an whole frikkin era.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2023, 20:23
by Redback Rasta
Wilder says his next 2 fights will be against Joshua :

“Everybody know about the Joshua situation. That is serious. That’s real. That is one that’s up next. We’re looking forward to that, I’ll be getting in camp real soon. I’ll be promoting it within the next few months or so. Finally get that showdown on.

I think it’s gonna be a great, great fight between me and him. I’m actually working on a 2 fight deal with me and Joshua, one up in Saudi Arabia and the other one up in the Motherland, Africa.”

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2023, 21:01
by Perseus
adislav123 wrote: 24 Aug 2023, 13:38 sure a shit fight to watch, but fury flawlessly executed a perfect gameplan and did everything he had to do to dethrone klit who was the heavyweight ruler of an whole frikkin era.
Which was do almost nothing against a 39-year-old fighter at the end of his career.
Wlad never won another fight.

Flawlessly executing nothing..........what a grand achievement.
Career defining moment there.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2023, 21:12
by Lackeos
adislav123 wrote: 24 Aug 2023, 13:38 sure a shit fight to watch, but fury flawlessly executed a perfect gameplan and did everything he had to do to dethrone klit who was the heavyweight ruler of an whole frikkin era.
You're the only person in this thread who isn't a braindead hater.

Re: Next for Deontay Wilder ?

Posted: 24 Aug 2023, 21:53
by The Asleep Lamps
I wasn't sure after watching it if Fury won that fight or if Wladimir lost it. I told my friend who is a casual fan to go ahead and watch Wlad vs Joshua but not that fight. I would rather watch all of his fights with Wilder than to watch that fight again. :OhYes: