BoxRec

golden_balls wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 18:30

watsupdoc87 wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 18:22

golden_balls wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 18:20

you two should get a room now boxrec love story

will you join, or rather peek through, golden balls haha

nah, I'm good. you stretch those new wings and fly

I'll do the streching he can do the screaming

Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 19:57 Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

is it really forbidden to mention FW on here? Not trolling genuinely curious

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑30 Sep 2023, 11:43

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 19:57 Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

is it really forbidden to mention FW on here? Not trolling genuinely curious

Haha I was kind of joking but Frank as we all know is very litigious and there was a time a few years back when the mods would replace any mention of Frank’s name with the word “allegedly” - now I don’t know if this was some kind of in joke or a serious attempt to ward off any potential legal action

What do you reckon is the most innocuous thing you can get banned for saying?

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑30 Sep 2023, 17:22

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑30 Sep 2023, 11:43

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 19:57 Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

is it really forbidden to mention FW on here? Not trolling genuinely curious

Haha I was kind of joking but Frank as we all know is very litigious and there was a time a few years back when the mods would replace any mention of Frank’s name with the word “allegedly” - now I don’t know if this was some kind of in joke or a serious attempt to ward off any potential legal action

ah gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I do kind of admire how he has never given evidence against the person who shot him, i'd be singing like a canary

In fairness to Frank, he is a genuine hard man. He would take on anyone and not back down. He even stood up to Mike Tyson in some argument over jewellery. Allegedly took a right hand and got flattened by Tyson but got up and still came after Tyson for the money and got a result. Frank is an OG.

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 14:53 In fairness to Frank, he is a genuine hard man. He would take on anyone and not back down. He even stood up to Mike Tyson in some argument over jewellery. Allegedly took a right hand and got flattened by Tyson but got up and still came after Tyson for the money and got a result. Frank is an OG.

he's definitely tough. I wouldn't buy a used car off him but he is definitely a tough man.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 19:57 Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

Nothing more brave than normal working men arming themselves and fighting back against an oppressive, invading force when you are heavily out financed and out gunned.

I'm sure that if England was invaded by a foreign army who violently upheld sectarian abuse such as gerrymandering and facilitated murder, you would uprise and fight back, no?

The real terrorists were the crown forces including the RUC, UDR and British Army who all carried out cowardly acts of terrorism. They created the environment that led to the creation of the PIRA. Oppression breeds rebellion.

liamlion wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 21:45

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 19:57 Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

Nothing more brave than normal working men arming themselves and fighting back against an oppressive, invading force when you are heavily out financed and out gunned.

I'm sure that if England was invaded by a foreign army who violently upheld sectarian abuse such as gerrymandering and facilitated murder, you would uprise and fight back, no?

The real terrorists were the crown forces including the RUC, UDR and British Army who all carried out cowardly acts of terrorism. They created the environment that led to the creation of the PIRA. Oppression breeds rebellion.

Undoubtedly there were bad deeds done on both sides. Probably best not to get into all that on a boxing forum.

Let’s agree to disagree

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 14:29 ah gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I do kind of admire how he has never given evidence against the person who shot him, i'd be singing like a canary

There's a great documentary on TNT Sports about him that airs quite often .... Make It Or Die Trying. There's some great archive footage and it covers all the big incidents involving him in detail. He comes across really well tbh.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 23:18

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 14:29 ah gotcha, thanks for clarifying. I do kind of admire how he has never given evidence against the person who shot him, i'd be singing like a canary

There's a great documentary on TNT Sports about him that airs quite often .... Make It Or Die Trying. There's some great archive footage and it covers all the big incidents involving him in detail. He comes across really well tbh.

thanks for this, will give it a watch, appreciate you mentioning it.

Michael Conlan opts for Grant Smith as new trainer, will return to featherweight

After pondering a few options for his new trainer, former featherweight title challenger Michael Conlan has selected Grant Smith.

The other options included Stephen Smith and Buddy McGirt.

“I appreciate the time I’ve had with all the guys I’ve worked with. It’s been great, but I believe Grant’s the next step for me. He’s the right one to help my career, and the right coach for me at the right time,” Conlan said in a recent interview with Louis Hart of Boxing Social. “I just like how he operates. It was a very, very hard decision.”

One of the crucial factors, according to Conlan, is the number of other notable boxers who work with Grant Smith, which is a key difference from Stephen Smith and from Conlan’s previous trainer, Pedro Diaz.

“I actually chose Grant because of the quality fighters he had around. Stephen only has a few fighters, Charlie Edwards being the main one,” Conlan said. “Pedro’s probably one of the best coaches I’ve ever worked with. I’m very grateful to have been under him for a while. I was basically training by myself a lot of the time. It was alright when we were doing it, but in hindsight it probably wasn’t what I needed. I chose Grant because he has so many high quality fighters there [who] you can push yourself against in the gym and try to excel.”

Among Grant Smith’s fighters at the Steel City Gym in Sheffield are former undisputed 140-pound champion Chantelle Cameron, former flyweight titleholder Sunny Edwards, junior welterweight prospect Dalton Smith (Grant’s son), and junior middleweight prospect Junaid Boston.

Conlan earned bronze in the 2012 Olympics as a flyweight and then competed again in the 2016 games as a bantamweight, suffering a highly controversial loss in the quarterfinals to Vladimir Nikitin.

He turned pro in 2017, worked his way up the featherweight ranks, and got revenge over Nikitin in the process. In 2022, Conlan was narrowly ahead on the scorecards going into the final round of an absolute war with secondary WBA titleholder Leigh Wood, only to be dropped and stopped with about 95 seconds to go.

After picking up a couple of wins over Miguel Marriaga and Karim Guerfi, Conlan challenged IBF titleholder Luis Alberto Lopez in May 2023 and was stopped again, this time in the fifth round. Conlan then suffered another loss last December, put away in seven rounds by Jordan Gill.

That dropped Conlan to 18-3 (9 KOs).

The fight with Gill was at junior lightweight. Conlan feels he now has more time to get his body lighter and plans to return to 126.

But he’s not calling out any names just yet, preferring to get used to working with Smith before signing up for another fight. Conlan, who turns 33 in November, says the latest he’ll be back is March 2025.

“I may not fight this year, because I need to make sure everything’s right. I need to spend quality time with a coach before we decide to go into training camp and start fighting,” Conlan said. “We’ll have plenty of time working together and gelling and getting to know each other. And learn his methods and show him my own kind of style and let him get used to that. You can’t rush into things.

“I want to come back and have one [fight] to get back in with a new coach, then we move forward, maybe another kind of middle-level one, and then we go straight back to the top,” he said.

That approach reflects the fact that this is, as Conlan puts it, his “last chance.”

“If I was to lose next, that would be it,” he said, and soon added: “I’ll keep going now until it’s done, until the next loss and then I would be done. But I’m not putting loads of emphasis on it, I’m just enjoying it and trying to get back to the best me, which I believe will be world champion.

“My career’s a long story,” Conlan said. “It’s been a very great career, an up-and- down career. I’ve earned an awful lot of money. And me coming back now isn’t about money. It’s about trying to reach the goal.”

liamlion wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 21:45

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 19:57 Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

Nothing more brave than normal working men arming themselves and fighting back against an oppressive, invading force when you are heavily out financed and out gunned.

I'm sure that if England was invaded by a foreign army who violently upheld sectarian abuse such as gerrymandering and facilitated murder, you would uprise and fight back, no?

The real terrorists were the crown forces including the RUC, UDR and British Army who all carried out cowardly acts of terrorism. They created the environment that led to the creation of the PIRA. Oppression breeds rebellion.

Mmmmm welli. Ive got a cousin who might disagree IF he was alive . a brave normal working man and his mates lay a bomb which blew him up . He was 17 at the time . Buthas said . Its a boxing forum not the place for them discusions

liamlion wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 21:45

Nothing more brave than normal working men arming themselves and fighting back against an oppressive, invading force when you are heavily out financed and out gunned.

So brave and fearless! Takes a real man to blow up two kids.

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 23:12

liamlion wrote: ↑01 Oct 2023, 21:45

CaptainSpacerod wrote: ↑29 Sep 2023, 19:57 Boxrec is nuts sometimes

Writing "Frank" is strictly forbidden and repeated transgressions of this rule will see you banned

Idiotically profess support for a cowardly terrorist organisation and hurl gratuitous abuse at other members ...... no problem

Nothing more brave than normal working men arming themselves and fighting back against an oppressive, invading force when you are heavily out financed and out gunned.

I'm sure that if England was invaded by a foreign army who violently upheld sectarian abuse such as gerrymandering and facilitated murder, you would uprise and fight back, no?

The real terrorists were the crown forces including the RUC, UDR and British Army who all carried out cowardly acts of terrorism. They created the environment that led to the creation of the PIRA. Oppression breeds rebellion.

Undoubtedly there were bad deeds done on both sides. Probably best not to get into all that on a boxing forum.

Let’s agree to disagree

Bad deeds done on both sides…. Not at the outset.

I’m English, but my partner is Irish.

It’s only recently, on my travels to Ireland, that I began to realise the full extent of our actions as a nation.

It grabbed my attention so much that I have now started to read around the subject (and other atrocities we have committed around the world).

Out treatment of the Irish over the last centuries has been horrific. You could argue it borders on genocide. The stealing/exporting of food during the Potato famine is particularly eye opening.

None of this stuff was taught to me in school.

Horrific acts were committed on both sides during the troubles. I don’t justify any of them. But there is zero doubt who the original aggressor was.

It’s also worth saying that when Republicans sing or shout ‘up the Ra’ they generally aren’t referring to the modern day IRA in my experience, but the original resistance.

When loyalists sing their take on "Simply the Best" and sing F*CK the pope and the IRA, are they referring to the original or existing IRA?

Coco wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 06:04 When loyalists sing their take on "Simply the Best" and sing F*CK the pope and the IRA, are they referring to the original or existing IRA?

Not sure Coco. I’m still learning! Most of the stuff I have studied has come from then Republican side.

Why do you ask?

Frostieballs wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 06:51

Coco wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 06:04 When loyalists sing their take on "Simply the Best" and sing F*CK the pope and the IRA, are they referring to the original or existing IRA?

Not sure Coco. I’m still learning! Most of the stuff I have studied has come from then Republican side.

Why do you ask?

A bit of balance!

Coco wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 06:04 When loyalists sing their take on "Simply the Best" and sing F*CK the pope and the IRA, are they referring to the original or existing IRA?

And which pope are they referring to? There's been loads!

Coco wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 08:04

Frostieballs wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 06:51

Coco wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 06:04 When loyalists sing their take on "Simply the Best" and sing F*CK the pope and the IRA, are they referring to the original or existing IRA?

Not sure Coco. I’m still learning! Most of the stuff I have studied has come from then Republican side.

Why do you ask?

A bit of balance!

I am all for balance. I only the mentioned the bit about the RA chants as they were mentioned beforehand.

My surname is McDonagh and i'm 100% pro Britain, served in the Parachute Regiment, the Irish shot at the Paras first on Bloody Sunday, every country we invaded we improved, so yeah we're the best.

I hope Conlan does well. I’m English btw.
This might be a terrible comparison but I liken him to Andy Murray whose words have been used against him for years to create a villain persona.

My thoughts on the IRA/PIRA . I’ll keep to myself.
Because it is self defeating and has no place on a boxing forum. Let’s just say……. S0d that…. No not going there….

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 12:10 My surname is McDonagh and i'm 100% pro Britain, served in the Parachute Regiment, the Irish shot at the Paras first on Bloody Sunday, every country we invaded we improved, so yeah we're the best.

mcdonagh eh, i had you pegged as a ball or cox

banjo wrote: ↑23 Aug 2024, 12:10 My surname is McDonagh and i'm 100% pro Britain, served in the Parachute Regiment, the Irish shot at the Paras first on Bloody Sunday, every country we invaded we improved, so yeah we're the best.

I’d say I’m pretty neutral, but what about the few hundred years before Bloody Sunday!

As for improving every country we’ve invaded, I’m not sure they would all agree!