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Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 17 Oct 2023, 00:36
by TheLeprechaun
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Oct 2023, 03:21 williams was also dropped multiple times and repeatedly hurt by andrade, who is a high level fighter but not a puncher. he took a lot of punishment.

then the kd fest vs eubank, even going down from jabs. maybe he had weight problems, but he's fighting at that weight again here.

it's all about timing and warren has made this at a time for sheeraz to smash him. i think that's the most likely probability too, if not an early demolition than a busting up

Agreed. I just think Williams has lost his durability now. He's as game as a badger but can't hold a shot. If he can get some respect early, and I mean landing a very good punch on Hamza, he can get a foothold into the fight but Hamza will rally at some point and I fear for Liam taking a full blooded shot. The lad has shown a solid heart and will keep going but this is a case where I wouldn't mind seeing a British stoppage if Liams legs go at any point. I think Liam will outbox him for a couple of rounds and who knows, he might get to Hamza with something but even in that scenario Hamza is a strong young fighter and he will keep going and land something. Liam is definitely the more skilled guy though so I can't say he's got no shot. Super Skeete did take Hamza to school. If it was Liam of a few years ago I'd be making a trip to the bookies but I have no faith in him at this point.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 19 Oct 2023, 12:24
by SeanBrennan
golden_labrador wrote: 16 Oct 2023, 05:11
SeanBrennan wrote: 14 Oct 2023, 14:06 hope Williams does a Warrington and rolls it back and is not shot.
but no headbutts :brick:
haha indeed, no headbutts please

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 21 Oct 2023, 20:38
by wrighty
TheLeprechaun wrote: 17 Oct 2023, 00:36
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Oct 2023, 03:21 williams was also dropped multiple times and repeatedly hurt by andrade, who is a high level fighter but not a puncher. he took a lot of punishment.

then the kd fest vs eubank, even going down from jabs. maybe he had weight problems, but he's fighting at that weight again here.

it's all about timing and warren has made this at a time for sheeraz to smash him. i think that's the most likely probability too, if not an early demolition than a busting up

Agreed. I just think Williams has lost his durability now. He's as game as a badger but can't hold a shot. If he can get some respect early, and I mean landing a very good punch on Hamza, he can get a foothold into the fight but Hamza will rally at some point and I fear for Liam taking a full blooded shot. The lad has shown a solid heart and will keep going but this is a case where I wouldn't mind seeing a British stoppage if Liams legs go at any point. I think Liam will outbox him for a couple of rounds and who knows, he might get to Hamza with something but even in that scenario Hamza is a strong young fighter and he will keep going and land something. Liam is definitely the more skilled guy though so I can't say he's got no shot. Super Skeete did take Hamza to school. If it was Liam of a few years ago I'd be making a trip to the bookies but I have no faith in him at this point.
I think that Andrade fight took loads out of Williams. He was looking mustard before that and had some lovely wins

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 13:29
by Ruthless-RKO
Cacace fight is off

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 14:04
by maverick23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 13:29 Cacace fight is off
Different show bud.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 01 Nov 2023, 16:29
by Ruthless-RKO
maverick23 wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 14:04
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Nov 2023, 13:29 Cacace fight is off
Different show bud.
Lol which was the magnificent 7 card?

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 08 Nov 2023, 08:50
by 893715
Absolutely nothing available on Ticketmaster for this. In a 7,500 capacity venue. Absolutely refused to believe this is sold out with a month to go. Baffling.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 08 Nov 2023, 12:50
by Ruthless-RKO
Fights off!

Due to unforeseen circumstances..

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 08 Nov 2023, 12:51
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 08 Nov 2023, 13:21
by Glass Joe
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 08 Nov 2023, 12:51
:brick: :brick: seems to be a trend main event pull outs and sling the rest of it to york hall people will be wondering if its due to ticket sales or something sweped under the carpet.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023 (OFF)

Posted: 08 Nov 2023, 15:36
by Stevieaber
Perforated eardrum for Sheeraz on TNT

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023 (OFF)

Posted: 08 Nov 2023, 16:11
by liamlion
Gutted about this news.

I still think Williams has something to offer and think he just fooked the weight leading up to the Eubank fight. He isn’t the type to usually get dropped by jabs.

The Dom Ingle trained Williams that beat Mark Heffron was impressive. Few years ago now though....

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023 (OFF)

Posted: 08 Nov 2023, 17:12
by Monzon83
Hearn will be piping up soon no doubt :D

Plant a few seeds as they say.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023 (OFF)

Posted: 12 Dec 2023, 20:07
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 12 Dec 2023, 23:52
by Manchester Hitman
Slightly surprised they didn’t take this down to Cardiff as it would probably be a better ticket draw. Hopefully this is part of a stacked card.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 17:05
by SeanBrennan
do we think Williams has much left? Or Sheeraz just too good.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 15 Dec 2023, 04:20
by Ruthless-RKO
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Press Release | Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams Rescheduled For February 10 at Copper Box

The middleweight collision between Hamzah Sheeraz and Liam Williams has got a new date and will take place on Saturday 10 February at London’s Copper Box Arena, live on TNT Sports.

The fight between the undefeated Sheeraz and former world title challenger Williams was originally set to go ahead in early December before Sheeraz suffered a perforated eardrum in training that forced the fight into 2024.

Now the fiercest test of the Ilford man’s professional career to date is back on and Sheeraz is already hard at work preparing over in Los Angeles, where he has been for the last week, with trainer Ricky Funez at the Ten Goose Boxing Gym.

During the recovery period of Sheeraz, Williams, 31, reminded us all that he has lost none of his old menaces by making more or less a minute’s work of Florin Cardos at York Hall at the end of November.

With a new date now booked in, festive celebrations for both men are now firmly put on hold.

“I am back in the flow of things now, grafting away,” reported 24-year-old Sheeraz. “Like I said last time, I think this is the perfect fight for me and it is not one that I can really take lightly. Hopefully, God willing, it will be a good camp and come February 10 I will get the job done in a good fashion and I will be a name that the middleweights start calling out and wanting to fight.

“Festivities are cancelled for me this year. Normally we do a little dinner and whatnot together with all the family because it is an excuse to do so. This will be the first time in my whole boxing career that I will have to grind through it. Sacrifice is nothing new to me and it is what you have to do to get to the top and go that extra mile to make it happen.”

To have a fight date confirmed, one that can reboot his middleweight prospects, Welshman Williams is happy to ditch the Christmas trimmings, even though with two children, he knows temptation will not be completely removed from his household.

“I am over the moon now the fight has been rescheduled,” said the KO-artist from Clydach Vale. “It is obviously not the best time with Christmas just around the corner now. With having kids it is going to be a little bit more difficult and there is gonna be a lot of food hanging about the house!

“There is obviously a lot on the line for me. It is a big opportunity with the belt we are fighting for and, realistically, I need to win if I want to get back onto that world title stage.”

Promoter allegedly added: “I really believe we are in for something very special at the Copper Box on February 10. It will be a classic collision of youth versus experience, a young fighter on the up against one looking to prove he still belongs.

“It provides a cracking fight to kick us off in 2024 a week before we head over to Riyadh for the big undisputed heavyweight fight between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk.

“I believe Hamzah is destined to reach the very top, but he will be tested like never before against Liam. This is a fight not to be missed.”

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 15 Dec 2023, 16:32
by THEBUTCH
Classic crossroads fight.

While Williams has been going over a fair bit lately Andrade and Eubank jnr are top level boxers.

Timing is everything and W@rren sees a future for Sheeraz. Williams needs to turn back the clock to his British title winning days.

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 15 Dec 2023, 17:01
by Ruthless-RKO
THEBUTCH wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 16:32 Classic crossroads fight.

While Williams has been going over a fair bit lately Andrade and Eubank jnr are top level boxers.

Timing is everything and W@rren sees a future for Sheeraz. Williams needs to turn back the clock to his British title winning days.
Is it a crossroads fight?

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 15 Dec 2023, 17:23
by SeanBrennan
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 17:01
THEBUTCH wrote: 15 Dec 2023, 16:32 Classic crossroads fight.

While Williams has been going over a fair bit lately Andrade and Eubank jnr are top level boxers.

Timing is everything and W@rren sees a future for Sheeraz. Williams needs to turn back the clock to his British title winning days.
Is it a crossroads fight?
I think it will end up more a Sheeraz batters shot Williams

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 15 Dec 2023, 17:50
by THEBUTCH
Ruthless-RKO, Sheeraz in the ascendancy, Williams probably in decline....isn't that a crossroads fight ? :maybe:

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 18 Dec 2023, 22:53
by margaret thatcher
crossroad fight is more like two guys who have had higher days, fighting each other. one wins to push himself back into the picturre, whereas the loser falls off the map. the 'must win' type of fight that is usually fairly evenly matched because the boxers are in similar, often desperate, situations.

gill vs conlan is a good example. both guys coming off losses and in huge need of career momentum. gill won and people are talking about him fighting cordina next etc - he's back and has new life in his career. conlan lost and people are saying retire.

williams vs , say, danny dignum or denzel bently would be more along the lines of a crossroad fight than this one is. sheeraz is fresh and isnt trying to reestablish himself after a set back, so he's not really one who can be in a crossroads yet.

one fighter having a more ascendant trajectory than other would make nearly every a -side prospect fight a cross roads

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 05 Jan 2024, 04:53
by Ruthless-RKO

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 2 December 2023

Posted: 05 Jan 2024, 06:06
by skanksta
margaret thatcher wrote: 16 Oct 2023, 03:21 williams was also dropped multiple times and repeatedly hurt by andrade, who is a high level fighter but not a puncher. he took a lot of punishment.

then the kd fest vs eubank, even going down from jabs. maybe he had weight problems, but he's fighting at that weight again here.

it's all about timing and warren has made this at a time for sheeraz to smash him. i think that's the most likely probability too, if not an early demolition than a busting up
Think Boo Boo IS (or was) a puncher - very fast, explosive shots people didn't see coming. He knocked down practically everyone. His problem is he wasn't a finisher.
He'd get an early KD, prove his dominance then fanny about coasting home to UD.

That said, the Eubank fight was worrying....

Re: Hamzah Sheeraz vs. Liam Williams | TNT Sports - 10 February 2024

Posted: 06 Jan 2024, 07:50
by SeanBrennan
Williams looked shot vs Williams, we will see here though, his two comeback fights did not tell us too much. I hope he isn't finished though, I like him. Sheeraz looks like the real deal though.