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Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 12 Dec 2023, 12:04
by jwfg
Kabayel has a 1 in 50 chance IMO.
Miller is the most likely upset for me. I just don't see Joshua having any issues with Wallin, who hits like an 11 year old.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 12 Dec 2023, 13:54
by Thomastearns
joshj909 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023, 11:52
Just looked at the odds. You get:
Makhmudov 1/10
Sanchez 1/16
Hrgovic 1/50
Bivol 1/25
Dubois 1/4
Opetaia 1/25
Wilder 1/7
Joshua 1/4
An 8 fold accumulator gets you odds of 13/10
Where's the upset(s)? Kabayel (11/2) and Miller (3/1) might be slightly undervalued. Possibly Parker too (9/2). Not saying they'll win but the odds are a slightly wide in my opinion.
Wilder is the heavy favourite but Parker's superior boxing skills must give him a chance.
Plus there's the uncertainty of not knowing which of them is more shot.
Let's not also forget that Parker is only 31 and that Wilder is 38.
As for Miller, if he's still on PEDs, then he's certainly got a chance.
If not, Daniel Dubois will enjoy dismantling a large stationary target.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 12 Dec 2023, 14:51
by joshj909
I've gone for Sanchez by Points, then Makhmudov and Hrgovic by KO at about 8/1.
Also gone for Miller by points, Parker by points and Joshua by KO at about 300/1.
Also a small one on at 42,000/1
Kabayel, Sanchez and Miller by points with Hrgovic, Parker and Joshua by KO. Keep your fingers crossed for me
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 12 Dec 2023, 21:06
by NateJR
Joshua KO Wallin mid fight
Parker TKO Wilder (Wilders legs are shot and has no punch resistance, he goes early)
Miller TKO Dubois late
Makhmudov KO Kabayel
Hrgovic UD De Mori
Sanchez TKO Fa
Non-heavyweight fights:
Bivol late TKO Arthur
Opetaia UD Zorro
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 11:06
by Sammy Scaff
No expert on the details of PED use but is it not possible that Miller has already completed a cycle of use and can get the benefits on the night without worry of getting caught (this time)?
I'm expecting the Dubois that troubled Usyk to dispatch Miller unless Fat Ass has great benefits from the juice.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 18:42
by Gran Hermano
Wallin and Parker double 21/1
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 19:49
by KiwiRider
NateJR wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023, 21:06
Joshua KO Wallin mid fight
Parker TKO Wilder (Wilders legs are shot and has no punch resistance, he goes early)
Miller TKO Dubois late
Makhmudov KO Kabayel
Hrgovic UD De Mori
Sanchez TKO Fa
Non-heavyweight fights:
Bivol late TKO Arthur
Opetaia UD Zorro
I got hassled for that
Sure De Mori could easily get blasted out in seconds, but I see a boring spoiler hold-fest that goes the distance. This is the biggest stage a lot of these guys have been on. So I expect that all of them train hard as they can, and won't go over easy because this is their biggest audience.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 19:53
by margaret thatcher
last time de mori boxed on the big stage, about 7 years ago, he was blasted out in 2 minutes. now he's 41
his last opponent was a 5'6 indonesian. his highest rated opponent since the haye loss is currently #688. he's only gone past 4 rounds once in the last decade. nearly all his fights have been vs punching bags and he's never developed or shown any good spoiling skills. he does not have the skill, talent, experience, or fitness to last 12 vs hrg, who is a top 10 fighter with some power. i dont see any reason to think he'll last markedly longer than he did the first time around this level
i think every hw on this card would stop him, and even the light heavies and cruisers would beat him
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 20:33
by joshj909
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 19:53
last time de mori boxed on the big stage, about 7 years ago, he was blasted out in 2 minutes. now he's 41
his last opponent was a 5'6 indonesian. his highest rated opponent since the haye loss is currently #688. he's only gone past 4 rounds once in the last decade. nearly all his fights have been vs punching bags and he's never developed or shown any good spoiling skills. he does not have the skill, talent, experience, or fitness to last 12 vs hrg, who is a top 10 fighter with some power. i dont see any reason to think he'll last markedly longer than he did the first time around this level
i think every hw on this card would stop him, and even the light heavies and cruisers would beat him
I'd guess that any professional boxer in the crowd that night would beat him as well, regardless of their weight class.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 21:56
by bogan whisperer
De Mori might as well turn the shower on just prior to doing his ring walk. The water should be just getting hot when he returns a few minutes later.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 13 Dec 2023, 21:59
by gregregegg
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 19:53
last time de mori boxed on the big stage, about 7 years ago, he was blasted out in 2 minutes. now he's 41
his last opponent was a 5'6 indonesian. his highest rated opponent since the haye loss is currently #688. he's only gone past 4 rounds once in the last decade. nearly all his fights have been vs punching bags and he's never developed or shown any good spoiling skills. he does not have the skill, talent, experience, or fitness to last 12 vs hrg, who is a top 10 fighter with some power. i dont see any reason to think he'll last markedly longer than he did the first time around this level
i think every hw on this card would stop him, and even the light heavies and cruisers would beat him
Oi. 5”6 AND A HALF.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 22 Dec 2023, 18:54
by Perkin Warbeck
joshj909 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023, 11:52
Just looked at the odds. You get:
Makhmudov 1/10
Sanchez 1/16
Hrgovic 1/50
Bivol 1/25
Dubois 1/4
Opetaia 1/25
Wilder 1/7
Joshua 1/4
I think Miller actually has a very good chance of beating Dubois, it seems like a 50-50 fight to me.
And the odds for Wilder over Parker and Makhmudov over Kabayel are too wide. It should be Wilder 1/2 and Makhmudov 1/4.
The other odds make sense.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 22 Dec 2023, 20:54
by Tony1244
Joshua Wallin Draw
Parker KOs Wilder in 2
Miller Decisions a lazy Miller
Makhmudov Stops Kabayel
Hrgovic KO De Mori
Sanchez KO Fa
Bivol Stops Arthur in 5
Opetaia decisions Zorro
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 22 Dec 2023, 21:33
by gregregegg
joshj909 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023, 14:51
I've gone for Sanchez by Points, then Makhmudov and Hrgovic by KO at about 8/1.
Also gone for Miller by points, Parker by points and Joshua by KO at about 300/1.
Also a small one on at 42,000/1
Kabayel, Sanchez and Miller by points with Hrgovic, Parker and Joshua by KO. Keep your fingers crossed for me
That last one is a decent little bet hahah.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 22 Dec 2023, 22:21
by The Gratest
Tony1244 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 20:54
Joshua Wallin Draw
Parker KOs Wilder in 2
Miller Decisions a lazy Miller
Makhmudov Stops Kabayel
Hrgovic KO De Mori
Sanchez KO Fa
Bivol Stops Arthur in 5
Opetaia decisions Zorro
The Miller fight has suddenly become very intriguing.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 22 Dec 2023, 23:57
by Evander
Wilder 213
Parker 245
30 + Pounds is a significant advantage.
Can Wilder go 12 ?
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 06:14
by lazboy
I’m picking all the favourites beside AJ. I believe Wallin will outwork and outsmart him. Whether that is reflected on the judge’s scorecards is another story.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 06:20
by joshj909
gregregegg wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 21:33
joshj909 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2023, 14:51
I've gone for Sanchez by Points, then Makhmudov and Hrgovic by KO at about 8/1.
Also gone for Miller by points, Parker by points and Joshua by KO at about 300/1.
Also a small one on at 42,000/1
Kabayel, Sanchez and Miller by points with Hrgovic, Parker and Joshua by KO. Keep your fingers crossed for me
That last one is a decent little bet hahah.
I think it's an upset too many
I think Makhmudov could be a future champ and Kabayel looked terrible in his last fight. Wilder has come in at his optimum weight. They're all viable though.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 10:25
by Tony1244
The Gratest wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 22:21
Tony1244 wrote: ↑22 Dec 2023, 20:54
Joshua Wallin Draw
Parker KOs Wilder in 2
Miller Decisions a lazy Miller
Makhmudov Stops Kabayel
Hrgovic KO De Mori
Sanchez KO Fa
Bivol Stops Arthur in 5
Opetaia decisions Zorro
The Miller fight has suddenly become very intriguing.
Wups.
Dubois Decisions a lazy Miller.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 12:44
by NazNaci1
Joshua KO / TKO Wallin
Wilder KO / TKO Parker
Dubios UD Miller
Makhmudov KO Kabayel
Hrgovic KO De Mori
Sanchez KO Fa
Bivol UD Arthur
Opetaia KO Zorro
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 13:10
by punchoutsb
Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 15:06
Here are my predictions, please post yours.
Joshua UD Wallin
Wilder KO Parker
Miller RTD Dubois
Makhmudov KO Kabayel
Hrgovic KO De Mori
Sanchez KO Fa
Non-heavyweight fights:
Bivol late KO Arthur
Opetaia UD Zorro
I agree with all but the main. Think Wallin takes a decision.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 13:12
by punchoutsb
punchoutsb wrote: ↑23 Dec 2023, 13:10
Perkin Warbeck wrote: ↑04 Dec 2023, 15:06
Here are my predictions, please post yours.
Joshua UD Wallin
Wilder KO Parker
Miller RTD Dubois
Makhmudov KO Kabayel
Hrgovic KO De Mori
Sanchez KO Fa
Non-heavyweight fights:
Bivol late KO Arthur
Opetaia UD Zorro
I agree with all but the main. Think Wallin takes a decision.
Sorry, also think Dubois beats Miller
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 14:45
by Thomastearns
bogan whisperer wrote: ↑13 Dec 2023, 21:56
De Mori might as well turn the shower on just prior to doing his ring walk. The water should be just getting hot when he returns a few minutes later.
It's interesting that according to the opinions here, only Hrgovic and Bivol are considered absolutely certainties.
I think that's about right.
As an AJ fan, and probably because I'm biased a little, I find it a little worrying that Wilder is considered a bigger favourite than Joshua tonight.
Wallin certainly has a great record and is a tricky southpaw but I still think a key factor might be that Riyadh is now almost a second home to AJ.
There also the fact that he's had 24 rounds against one of the most elusive heavyweights in history.
Wallin might be good, but he's no Usyk.
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 20:10
by joshj909
I got 5/6 winners correct. I got the method of victory wrong
Re: Post your predictions for the Dec. 23 Saudi event
Posted: 23 Dec 2023, 20:11
by margaret thatcher
i shat it on miller-dubs and didnt end up making a pick on that. i was going to bet some on miller, but than decided to put that all on agit, who now is my friend for life
i got wilder-parker wrong. i didnt think wilder was that bad