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Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 02 Oct 2024, 14:40
by Ambling Alp II
Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑25 Sep 2024, 06:47
Tyrell Biggs made it 7 and Tucker went the full 12 but Usyk cant make it four. People must have a low view of Usyk
Tucker had a great chin. Yes Tyrell Biggs made it the 7th round. Tyson stopped a lot of guys earlier than that though. Of course, there is a chance that Usyk would make it that far. The odds are he would not have.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 18 Nov 2025, 21:12
by Klee Gluckman
The funny thing is that if this fight was in 1988 no one would back Usyk no one.
There is a lot of revisionism with Tyson,.
Tyson is 1988 would beat Usyk I think the trifecta was impressive
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 19 Nov 2025, 00:41
by gilgamesh
I'd take Mike by KO in the 8th or so.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 20 Nov 2025, 01:44
by 2205880
Tyson vs Usyk is interesting because both have such different strengths. The late-80s Tyson is the toughest version for Usyk - fast head movement, quick feet, and real pressure. Usyk could outbox the 1991 and 95-96 versions over the distance, but the prime Tyson is a much harder matchup.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 13:17
by elmersalsa
Cent0089 wrote: ↑15 Sep 2024, 04:17
Tyson is everything bad for Usyk. On the other hand, i would favor Usyk over Ali and Ali over Tyson. Styles make fights
Oleksander Usyk over Muhammad Ali??? Never. Ali was too fast.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 13:26
by elmersalsa
The 3 factors why Mike Tyson lost his fights
1. The fighter wasn't afraid (Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis for example, were not afraid of him)
2. The boxers were bigger and stronger (Douglas, Holyfield and Lewis all over again)
3. The boxers got good boxing skills (there we go again with Douglas, Holy and Lewis)
That means Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes and George Foreman would have beaten Tyson, too. Those 3 got the attributes to beat Tyson.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 13:37
by 2128778
elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Nov 2025, 13:26
The 3 factors why Mike Tyson lost his fights
1. The fighter wasn't afraid (Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis for example, were not afraid of him)
2. The boxers were bigger and stronger (Douglas, Holyfield and Lewis all over again)
3. The boxers got good boxing skills (there we go again with Douglas, Holy and Lewis)
That means Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes and George Foreman would have beaten Tyson, too. Those 3 got the attributes to beat Tyson.
Would you include Usyk in this list?
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 13:40
by elmersalsa
2128778 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2025, 13:37
elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Nov 2025, 13:26
The 3 factors why Mike Tyson lost his fights
1. The fighter wasn't afraid (Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis for example, were not afraid of him)
2. The boxers were bigger and stronger (Douglas, Holyfield and Lewis all over again)
3. The boxers got good boxing skills (there we go again with Douglas, Holy and Lewis)
That means Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes and George Foreman would have beaten Tyson, too. Those 3 got the attributes to beat Tyson.
Would you include Usyk in this list?
I don't think that he would be stronger than Tyson.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 16:09
by gilgamesh
elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Nov 2025, 13:40
2128778 wrote: ↑21 Nov 2025, 13:37
elmersalsa wrote: ↑21 Nov 2025, 13:26
The 3 factors why Mike Tyson lost his fights
1. The fighter wasn't afraid (Buster Douglas, Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis for example, were not afraid of him)
2. The boxers were bigger and stronger (Douglas, Holyfield and Lewis all over again)
3. The boxers got good boxing skills (there we go again with Douglas, Holy and Lewis)
That means Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes and George Foreman would have beaten Tyson, too. Those 3 got the attributes to beat Tyson.
Would you include Usyk in this list?
I don't think that he would be stronger than Tyson.
Yeah that's Usyk's biggest problem here. He definitely has the skill, but the gap in strength and punching power would be pretty significant.
Tyson was also faster.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 21 Nov 2025, 16:56
by The Docker
People overlook the original iteration of Mike.
He would have had complete disregard for Usyk and walked straight through him.
Not even sure he'd need to duck and weave his speed, power and self belief had that much conviction.
The later iteration would have been confused to f*ck where any outcome is likely.
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 27 Nov 2025, 17:32
by Cojimar 1946
Usyk ko 10
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 29 Nov 2025, 14:42
by giacomino
I kind of go with the consensus. Tyson pre-Douglas beats Usyk, maybe even the pre-Holyfield version but less likely. Tyson was shot post-Holyfield I and Usyk would box his ears off
Re: Mike Tyson vs Oleksandr Usyk
Posted: 30 Nov 2025, 09:23
by keithmoonhangover
Anyone who thinks Usyk is going to stop peak Tyson really needs to adjust their meds.
He couldn't stop Joshua, Chisora, Briedis, Gassiev and Hunter. Say what you want about Tyson, but before Prison, Tyson had a great chin and was difficult to hit cleanly.