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Posted: **27 Mar 2005, 06:50**

I think the time will come very soon for Audley when he realises he`s not the golden boy he thinks he is.

He got the gold medal, a shit load of publicity and even brought out his autobiography and add to this a mega sum off the BBC to pick his own opponents, there is no wonder his head swelled and his brain got lossed in there.

Now how long will the money he made back then last him, he seems to have beeen living the life of a boxer who has already made it financially but I`m sure the bucket must be scraping the bottom of the well about now.

I`m sure he`ll give it another go and he may just surprise us with some good showings but as weak as the division is he will fall short of the top, he has left it too late.

The skills he says he`s been mastering in the gym look good against the bag or the opponent who lets you fight at your own pace but these won`t help you against a dangerous real opponent who will put your back against the wall and this is when reflex and instinct play the major part.

In a couple of years time will we be using the name Audley Harrison to prove a point,
Of how not to do it in the paid ranks.
Of the difference today between top amateurs and top pro`s.
Of somebody who got too big for their boots.
And of somebody who just left it too late.

Posted: **27 Mar 2005, 10:49**

silkov wrote:
Manos de Oro wrote:IMO the Duva's ain't the best at handling young fighters. I think Arum is better, along with none other than Allegedly (in a monetary sense).
I've never been a great fan of Duva... I remember reading him saying how he opened up a cut of one of his fighters wider so that he would get a tech decision and I just thought that this didn't seem like the way to treat your fighter or another human being... after all bad cuts and scar tissue affects careers doesn't it. The Duvas always seem in it for the fast buck.

Meldrick Taylor being put in with Terry Norris is another example.

Yep, and I remember George Foreman criticising him for letting a young fighter take a beating (might have been Tim Littles in that amazingly dramatic James Toney fight). I also thought the sight of him jumping over Adilson Rodrigues' convulsing body to get to Holyfield was very unsavoury. That's the thing with Lou Duva, for all his experience he tends to get way over-excited. Miguel Diaz - the Argie who operates out of Las Vegas - is similar in a way. They both have worked with so many champions, some legendary champions, yet they often come across as being freshmen in the corner. Weird...

Posted: **27 Mar 2005, 19:13**

whilst being dissapointed with harrions actibvity i believe with 8 weeks dedicated training he would muller any current brit HW.

Posted: **27 Mar 2005, 20:29**

Wales wrote:whilst being dissapointed with harrions actibvity i believe with 8 weeks dedicated training he would muller any current brit HW.

With the state of our heavyweight division in the UK, thats like saying he could KO anyone under 5 years old!

Posted: **28 Mar 2005, 04:42**

Riddick Blowe wrote: Well, Calvin Brock certainly managed to beat clifford easy enough, and you must have seen brock overhand, he's very ordinary and previously had the same kind of limited opposition level that audley has. it was a step up for brock, but he passed the test pretty easily. Not that it suggested him to be a future champ.

cley bey would be a tougher proposition but he's beatable, hell you make out these guys just because they are proven tough fighters also can't act as stepping stones or that inexperienced guys have no chance against them.

these guys are tough like you say but everyone has to step up sometime and face that level, for me audley beats them both.

If he would just fight them.

Hey Riddick, no i havent seen Brock fight, but by the sounds of it he wasnt having his hands full with british journeymen cruisers like Negus & Krence, and wouldnt need 12 rds to beat a 40 yr old out of shape Julius Francis.

2000s Fight of the Year was Etienne v Clay-Bey. It was a 10 rounder from the Lewis/Tua undercard, and one hell of a fight. The thought of Audley being able to compete in a hard, fast paced heavyweight brawl where big shots are given & taken like that fight was, is laughable (IMO anyway).

All that Audley has shown is that he can crush a journeyman cruiser if he comes right at him & walks into the big left hand, but otherwise only fightsd very slowly & has an inability to take or deliver a decent punch.

He is leagues below his US counterparts, including the high quality trial horses (Ross Purrity, Eliecer Castillo and the boys etc)

Posted: **28 Mar 2005, 06:35**

good points, but in the US audley did prove he could deal with the lower tier trial horses (nix, navarre) as well or better than the top fighters, suggesting a natural graduation in quality would have been comfortable. Golota needed 4 more rounds than audley to dispatch of nix, and he's in the mix now. Plus, i seem to remember Etienne had a hellish struggle with shawn robinson, a guy who audley had bombed out in rd 1 with one shot on a HBO undercard in the US. Not to mention cley bey's pathetic whale impression vs samil sam.

I remember the cley bey/etienne fight, but i don't think either is the same fighter now.

Audley has looked better over there, and based on his performances I wouldn't say he is 'leagues apart' at all. He's certainly more talented than brock, whom BTW i could easily see labouring to a 12 round decision vs jules, in the same manner as the long line of european 'hopefuls' have.

I think we all just need to see audley fight again, it's been so long that who knows how he'll look when he finally emerges.

Posted: **28 Mar 2005, 09:10**

Big frickin deal. Obviously no disrespect Riddick my man, but there are tons of heavies who Tyson wouldve blasted in 1 rd & wouldve gone 12 rds with Holyfield, but that wouldnt mean shit for Tysons chances v Holyfield.

Until i see Audley take on a high quality US trail horse and beat him easy, or a former world ranked heavy like Clay-Bey & the boys, i will still view Audley as a big goon who cant fight & struggles against journeymen cruisers.

In the last 3 or 4 yrs how many heavies have we seen blast out the Usual Suspects (Bigfoot, Quinn Navarre, Louis Monaco, Brian Nix et al) just like all the others, then get destroyed against a live body trial horse or fringe contender? Too many to mention in one thread.

Posted: **28 Mar 2005, 15:47**

The biggest worry with Audely is that he has struggled against opposition against which he should have breezed past. When you consider that many Olimpic Goldmedalists have gone right into facing fringe contenders when they've turned pro its very alarming. His performance against Francis was the last straw for me... too struggle so clumsily against the out of shape Francis showed a terrible lack of self-belief and hunger and decided for me that Harrison will never be a genuine world beater even in these threadbare times.

Posted: **28 Mar 2005, 17:04**

I would have thought much of Audley's inactivity has something to do with not knowing who the fornicate he would be fighting for when he does?

BBC no more... Sky? With which promoter? As far as I know 'A-Force' have no deal with Sky so what the fornicate is he going to do?

If I were he (which I clearly am not) he should get straight over to the US, sign up with the biggest promoter who will have him and dedicate yourself to the sport for 18 months and see where you get. At least he'll know he tried and he is probably good enough to be guided into a decent money fight somewhere down the line if stays in shape.

Posted: **29 Mar 2005, 10:22**

overhand_right wrote:Jesus talk about How To fornicate Up A Boxing Career in 17 Easy Steps.

What exactly is this big lumbering goon up to right now? Still recovering from his latest 'injury' (pulled a breast muscle whilst trying to lift a particularly heavy trifle from the back of the fridge)

Is he in the US getting some quality sparring with live bodies? That little trilogy of fights he had in the states really impressed me. The way he waxed those guys was impressive, but his return to the UK was what i would charitably refer to as 'wank'. The 12 rd dec over a 40 yr old out of shape Jules was a disgrace and his 9 rd kayo of yet another obscure Euro-import was a complete waste of time.

He is now 34 i think. He has a WBF belt. He has bypassed British & European titles & now finds himself in a position where the only way he can regain credibility & advance his stagnant career is by fighting a live body. Unfortunately due to the extremely poor level of his competition, he is unprepared to fight a live body (Could see Ross Purrity chinning Big Aud if he had to go past the 4th rd)

As far as im concerned 5 years has passed & he has achieved precisely fornicate all (other than making himself & the game of boxing into a joke with the general public- cheers mate!!)

The only possible way Audley could get back on track would be either to fight Luan Krasniqi for the European heavy title (never going to happen considering Auds fear of challenges) or come back to the UK and bump off either Herbie Hide (could be made), Danny Williams, or Matt Skelton (both allegedly allegedly fighters, highly unlikely)

Either that or a tough ex-contender with a name like a Lawrence Clay-Bey or Clifford Etienne, however due to his soft match making there is no way he could win these fights.

Although i think Matt Skelton has no skills or future at least he recognises he has to get what he can in his hsort time left whereas Audley like a punk tried pathetically to bullshit his way to a world title shot & seems to have realised this is not possible & he cant fight. I would not be surprised to see him fade into low key obscurity ala Prince Naseem.

Realistic thread. I have been always saying that Harrison is the most overhyped boxer in this forum (and maybe in England?). A year ago I predicted that his carrer will go nowhere if he didn´t fight live body.

In the real world he is a 33 year old top 100 heavy with a Mickey Mouse title like Andreas Sidon in Germany. Both are not known in the world, Harrison only in England because of his Olympic win. His best "name" on the winning list is an over the hill Julius Francis. That´s all.

He is #8 at the EBU. No chance for a title fight. Luan vacates the title when he beats Whitaker. Then the most realistic fight would be Hoffmann-Skelton. If Luan would lose he will have a rematch vs. Hoffmann.

Do you think that a fight vs Herbie Hide now would bring him further? IMO Harrison is a Marketing Instrument that doesn´t work anymore. He has no heart and no balls.

Posted: **29 Mar 2005, 12:27**

BubiScholz wrote:Do you think that a fight vs Herbie Hide now would bring him further? IMO Harrison is a Marketing Instrument that doesn´t work anymore. He has no heart and no balls.

Well it would be interesting to see how Harrison coped with Hides speed and power. But Hide is also inactive these days, and past his best.

Posted: **29 Mar 2005, 13:01**

Harrisons big mistake was going for that wbu or what ever title he has!. When he came back from America he'd actually gained some ground and was at the point where he could have gone for Hide or Williams or the British title... had he done that things might have turned out differently.
Even if he'd lost a close fight to Williams I think Audely would be in a better position now. As it is he is still unbeaten but nobody cares anymore!.... 8)

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