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Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 13:53
by mickey1975
keithmoonhangover wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 13:38
Coco wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 12:01
keithmoonhangover wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 10:12

Liam's gone public saying Josh Kelly is juicing.
I thought it was only gypsies who dope????
I didn't say that, I have zero problem with gypsies, it's PED cheats I hate. I was just highlighting the high percentage that fails tests.
You haven't given a percentage. You've taken one division in one country. What are the overall stats?

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 14:33
by magnus
Gutted this has happened. It was a great fight, and I thought McGrail would take that cocky fornicate to school.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 15:11
by rd350lc
Coco wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 13:23
rd350lc wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 12:56 Mcgrail must be devastated.
Life changing earnings and chance in the spotlight gone .
Hope he gets another crack on a show of this magnitude.
Between getting chinned, and this, things really haven't gone his way, hasn't got time to lose either
Nope, shite awful luck in the grand scheme of things.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 19:49
by Controversial
a force wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 10:02 And what a surprise he became a client of Dr Uz in September. That’s another positive test for him after Conor Benn & he also has drugs cheat Tyson Fury as a client.
His current profile photo is of him and Fury

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 21:01
by a force
Controversial wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 19:49
a force wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 10:02 And what a surprise he became a client of Dr Uz in September. That’s another positive test for him after Conor Benn & he also has drugs cheat Tyson Fury as a client.
His current profile photo is of him and Fury
It’s amazing that they’re so brazen about it.

I follow cycling & to even be associated with a suspicious doctor was devastating for a riders reputation. Boxing needs a Paul Kimmage type to properly look into this ‘doctor’.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 21:05
by margaret thatcher
Dr uz giving his boys too many eggs still?

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 22:52
by TheLeprechaun
It's just an unwritten rule that everyone is on it.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 08:02
by Controversial
a force wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 21:01
Controversial wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 19:49
a force wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 10:02 And what a surprise he became a client of Dr Uz in September. That’s another positive test for him after Conor Benn & he also has drugs cheat Tyson Fury as a client.
His current profile photo is of him and Fury
It’s amazing that they’re so brazen about it.

I follow cycling & to even be associated with a suspicious doctor was devastating for a riders reputation. Boxing needs a Paul Kimmage type to properly look into this ‘doctor’.
I saw one post that said he had an England amateur boxing lanyard around his neck in a photo

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 11:41
by golden_labrador
TheLeprechaun wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 22:52 It's just an unwritten rule that everyone is on it.
hard to think otherwise. if it weren't the case, surely all the clean superstars would be using their platform to absolutely shout from the rooftop about cheats who are caught. a lot of silence, which i know could be explained in different ways, but still...

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 13:23
by Boxerbeetle
TheLeprechaun wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 22:52 It's just an unwritten rule that everyone is on it.
It must be a good 80% at minimum.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 13:50
by TheLeprechaun
golden_labrador wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 11:41
TheLeprechaun wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 22:52 It's just an unwritten rule that everyone is on it.
hard to think otherwise. if it weren't the case, surely all the clean superstars would be using their platform to absolutely shout from the rooftop about cheats who are caught. a lot of silence, which i know could be explained in different ways, but still...
The ones who shout up the most are the ones who were definitely on it. Just my opinion but I'd bet money on it.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 13:51
by TheLeprechaun
We'll get the usual denials and then some excuse. A short ban and back to business.. We know the script.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 16:02
by golden_labrador
TheLeprechaun wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 13:50
golden_labrador wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 11:41
TheLeprechaun wrote: 14 Dec 2024, 22:52 It's just an unwritten rule that everyone is on it.
hard to think otherwise. if it weren't the case, surely all the clean superstars would be using their platform to absolutely shout from the rooftop about cheats who are caught. a lot of silence, which i know could be explained in different ways, but still...
The ones who shout up the most are the ones who were definitely on it. Just my opinion but I'd bet money on it.
true dat

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 16:06
by Coco
TheLeprechaun wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 13:51 We'll get the usual denials and then some excuse. A short ban and back to business.. We know the script.
Benn has been out for a couple of years, getting off isn't straightforward

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 16:13
by TheLeprechaun
That's because he was raised with such a silver spoon that he couldn't even do what is normally done and make an excuse about it and get a ban and be done with it. He was so petulant that he had to try to "clear his name". Correct me if I'm wrong but he's saying it wasn't even in his system and the tests were dodgy?

The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.

I'm trying to imagine Riddick Bowe doing that...

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 16:43
by Controversial
TheLeprechaun wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 16:13 That's because he was raised with such a silver spoon that he couldn't even do what is normally done and make an excuse about it and get a ban and be done with it. He was so petulant that he had to try to "clear his name". Correct me if I'm wrong but he's saying it wasn't even in his system and the tests were dodgy?

The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.

I'm trying to imagine Riddick Bowe doing that...
Do many fighters admit to cheating without making an excuse why they failed a test?

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:17
by handsofstone
Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:21
by TheLeprechaun
Controversial wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 16:43
TheLeprechaun wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 16:13 That's because he was raised with such a silver spoon that he couldn't even do what is normally done and make an excuse about it and get a ban and be done with it. He was so petulant that he had to try to "clear his name". Correct me if I'm wrong but he's saying it wasn't even in his system and the tests were dodgy?

The kid is covered in "hard man" tattoos and got beard transplants. That tells you all you need to know about the mindset.

I'm trying to imagine Riddick Bowe doing that...
Do many fighters admit to cheating without making an excuse why they failed a test?

Thats what I'm saying. He was too petulant and used to the silver spoon life to not have "cleared his name" and now we get some rubbish about how there was no clomifene in any test - I believe thats the party line now although I'm prepared to stand corrected on that. Instead of just blaming it on a supplement or something - like we usually get. Comical and embarrassing stuff.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:22
by Boxerbeetle
handsofstone wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
The fact he got the shit kicked out of him probably helped too, tbf.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:36
by skanksta
I remember DelBoy saying that (I think) Whyte (?) or possibly almost anyone else need to be banned for at least the mandatory 2 (?) years.., "otherwise I might as well start using" !

I wish I could dig up the video, but he defo sounded like he wasn't using, but felt like a mug for not doing so and was seriously consdiering doing so.
The punishments are a joke, so why wouldn't you..?

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:46
by TheLeprechaun
handsofstone wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
Does anyone believe Kell wasn't on gear?

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:46
by a force
handsofstone wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
If there’s one fighter I’m convinced doped during his prime it’s Khan.

Khan before & after Ariza is a completely different fighter to the one who worked with Ariza.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:48
by TheLeprechaun
The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 15 Dec 2024, 17:51
by a force
TheLeprechaun wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 17:46
handsofstone wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 17:17 Amir Khan has proven you should only get caught juicing in your last fight and nobody will care
Does anyone believe Kell wasn't on gear?
I am a Brook fan so I’m a bit biased but he did pass vada testing for several fights & never really showed a sudden change in performance level like others did.

Of course everyone knows about Galahad failing a test out of the same gym so there’s always a guilt by association possibility.

Re: Peter McGrail versus Dennis McCann

Posted: 16 Dec 2024, 06:30
by keithmoonhangover
TheLeprechaun wrote: 15 Dec 2024, 17:48 The fact of the matter is, if you aren't on gear you're a mug. This isn't the 1950s.
PEDs means inflicting more brain damage. You're alright with that?