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forcefraser wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 16:21

Alba wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 14:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Nov 2024, 10:03 What if it was an Australian billionaire with endless money? Or an African, or Canadian.

Would be call it Canadian sell out?

Is the issue with people against it, just Cus he’s Arab/Saudi?

It’s been a great 12 months of boxing. Long may it continue for however long it does.

Aye, cause none of the other countries you mention treat women like second class citizens, or murder journalists

Not strictly true. I was playing Golf once at a course in Queensland. In the clubhouse they had a lounge with a sign above the door that read " No dogs or women allowed"

The Saudis just need time. Women have been the rubbing rags of all societies at some point. It's not an exclusively Saudi thing. Check out the history of the states or South Africa, or Belgium.

The Saudi are no worse than any of these

C'mon the Saudis ARE worse.
But overall it's been fantastic - I let the sportwashing work.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 16:52 For me Dubai is an illusion. Go outside the city and you'll find excess poverty and squalor, and double standards of living as opposed to how people in Dubai live. Well, at least the rich ones. People still get arrested by the morality police in Dubai. It's not Disneyland but people pretend it is. Saudi Arabia is still a dangerous country, and I'll never not believe they don't have a stake in terrorist activities.

Some folk reckon they were responsible for 9/11

forcefraser wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 16:21

Alba wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 14:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Nov 2024, 10:03 What if it was an Australian billionaire with endless money? Or an African, or Canadian.

Would be call it Canadian sell out?

Is the issue with people against it, just Cus he’s Arab/Saudi?

It’s been a great 12 months of boxing. Long may it continue for however long it does.

Aye, cause none of the other countries you mention treat women like second class citizens, or murder journalists

Not strictly true. I was playing Golf once at a course in Queensland. In the clubhouse they had a lounge with a sign above the door that read " No dogs or women allowed"

The Saudis just need time. Women have been the rubbing rags of all societies at some point. It's not an exclusively Saudi thing. Check out the history of the states or South Africa, or Belgium.

The Saudi are no worse than any of these

They are at this moment in time ….

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 15:15

Alba wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 14:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Nov 2024, 10:03 What if it was an Australian billionaire with endless money? Or an African, or Canadian.

Would be call it Canadian sell out?

Is the issue with people against it, just Cus he’s Arab/Saudi?

It’s been a great 12 months of boxing. Long may it continue for however long it does.

Aye, cause none of the other countries you mention treat women like second class citizens, or murder journalists

Sure. Journalists only get killed in Saudi.

woman are gaining more rights each year aren’t they?

Keep digging

Alba wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 03:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 15:15

Alba wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 14:32

Aye, cause none of the other countries you mention treat women like second class citizens, or murder journalists

Sure. Journalists only get killed in Saudi.

woman are gaining more rights each year aren’t they?

Keep digging

That’s you pal. Not me.

It’s the boxers and promoters that are taking the oil money.

Boycott it.

The original arguments in favour of pay per view were that it's the only way to provide decent bills.

Now the same argument is dredged up for the saudi shows.

The quality over time will definitely slide

funso banjo baby wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 06:13 The original arguments in favour of pay per view were that it's the only way to provide decent bills.

Now the same argument is dredged up for the saudi shows.

The quality over time will definitely slide

They doing £20 ppv's which is better than the recent £25 increase.

For now, it's enjoyable

I think all of the media attention is highlighting the issues that we see as wrong and that's a good thing.

Coco wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 18:05

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 16:52 For me Dubai is an illusion. Go outside the city and you'll find excess poverty and squalor, and double standards of living as opposed to how people in Dubai live. Well, at least the rich ones. People still get arrested by the morality police in Dubai. It's not Disneyland but people pretend it is. Saudi Arabia is still a dangerous country, and I'll never not believe they don't have a stake in terrorist activities.

Some folk reckon they were responsible for 9/11

15 of the 19 attackers that day were Saudis

Short term it's been great for us fans.

Long term something tells me it will have a negative effect..

I'm ignorant but does anyone know what the impact all of their chucking money at the top end of the sport is having on grass roots boxing and the smaller shows that are the breeding ground of tomorrow's boxing stars?

Are they doing anything to invest in the long term future of the sport? Again just posing the question.

Gran Hermano wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 07:27

Coco wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 18:05

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 16:52 For me Dubai is an illusion. Go outside the city and you'll find excess poverty and squalor, and double standards of living as opposed to how people in Dubai live. Well, at least the rich ones. People still get arrested by the morality police in Dubai. It's not Disneyland but people pretend it is. Saudi Arabia is still a dangerous country, and I'll never not believe they don't have a stake in terrorist activities.

Some folk reckon they were responsible for 9/11

15 of the 19 attackers that day were Saudis

So why did we attack Iraq?

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 08:55

Gran Hermano wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 07:27

Coco wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 18:05

Some folk reckon they were responsible for 9/11

15 of the 19 attackers that day were Saudis

So why did we attack Iraq?

Money.

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 09:19

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 08:55

Gran Hermano wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 07:27

15 of the 19 attackers that day were Saudis

So why did we attack Iraq?

Money.

They also went into Afghanistan all guns blazing after 9/11.

Maybe it was all a diversion tactic to enable them to take certain freedoms away from the citizens, a bit like they did during covid and don't forget who profits from war.

Some of the most powerful people in the U.S are the owners behind weapons companies . It's a 2.5 trillion dollar industry.
Wars are good for business and they pay well to be looked after.

Same with big pharma. Massively influential. How else do you explain the government sponsored opiod crisis in tye states, where doctors will prescribe Oxytocin like sweets in the name of profit. They sell whole communities down the river and decimate generations through addiction

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 08:55

Gran Hermano wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 07:27

Coco wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 18:05

Some folk reckon they were responsible for 9/11

15 of the 19 attackers that day were Saudis

So why did we attack Iraq?

Iraq had nothing to do with this. It was a bunch of Saudi Arabians, Lebanese, and Egyptians, financed by a Saudi Arabian guy living in Afghanistan and sheltered by Pakistanis

forcefraser wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 10:41

keithmoonhangover wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 09:19

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 08:55

So why did we attack Iraq?

Money.

They also went into Afghanistan all guns blazing after 9/11.

Maybe it was all a diversion tactic to enable them to take certain freedoms away from the citizens, a bit like they did during covid and don't forget who profits from war.

Some of the most powerful people in the U.S are the owners behind weapons companies . It's a 2.5 trillion dollar industry.
Wars are good for business and they pay well to be looked after.

Same with big pharma. Massively influential. How else do you explain the government sponsored opiod crisis in tye states, where doctors will prescribe Oxytocin like sweets in the name of profit. They sell whole communities down the river and decimate generations through addiction

Iraq was plundered for oil and national treasures.

It's almost like Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 15:36 It's almost like Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11

Didn’t they get naming rights at least?

KiwiRider wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 18:03

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 15:36 It's almost like Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11

Didn’t they get naming rights at least?

But at least we liberated them

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 03:37

Alba wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 03:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 15:15

Sure. Journalists only get killed in Saudi.

woman are gaining more rights each year aren’t they?

Keep digging

That’s you pal. Not me.

It’s the boxers and promoters that are taking the oil money.

Boycott it.

I'm no your pal.

You call it oil, i call it Blood Money

Fu ck Saudi and there oppressive regime

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 15:15

Alba wrote: ↑10 Nov 2024, 14:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑09 Nov 2024, 10:03 What if it was an Australian billionaire with endless money? Or an African, or Canadian.

Would be call it Canadian sell out?

Is the issue with people against it, just Cus he’s Arab/Saudi?

It’s been a great 12 months of boxing. Long may it continue for however long it does.

Aye, cause none of the other countries you mention treat women like second class citizens, or murder journalists

Sure. Journalists only get killed in Saudi.

woman are gaining more rights each year aren’t they?

Pick out the countries that have had state sponsored assassinations of journalists and you might see a trend in those countries...

If you look through the rights that women are getting each year you will realise how archaic it still is. The rights they've been given now allowed to play football or they are allowed to go on pilgrimage without permission if they register in advance. They're finally allowed to live alone without their guardian's permission. Though, they still are not able to do many things without a guardian's permission, that's a male guardian that they don't even get to choose. They're considered to rank 126/146 for women's rights across the globe. Suggesting that they're doing a good job is terrible as they could change it over ight if they wanted to as it's a dictatorship, not a bureaucratic system. At the current rate they'd get to the top 50 in 100 years or more. It's still gender apartheid.

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 18:12

KiwiRider wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 18:03

Coco wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 15:36 It's almost like Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11

Didn’t they get naming rights at least?

But at least we liberated them

Not yet, they are still voting on reducing the marriage age for girls to 9.
Let's hope they carry on in this liberating way, old men need child brides too.

Alba wrote: ↑12 Nov 2024, 13:21

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 03:37

Alba wrote: ↑11 Nov 2024, 03:29

Keep digging

That’s you pal. Not me.

It’s the boxers and promoters that are taking the oil money.

Boycott it.

I'm no your pal.

You call it oil, i call it Blood Money

Fu ck Saudi and there oppressive regime

No worries pal.

Sounds like these Saudis need liberating too