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Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 23:08
by Contendeh
Looking at the heavies of the last 40 years who are in:
Tyson
Holy
Bowe
Lewis
Klitschkos
I think Joshua has done enough to join that list.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 28 Nov 2024, 15:01
by margaret thatcher
is that all in the last 40 years? tbf they havent exactly opened the flood gates if those are the only ones. vitali is a bit weak but even he was prob #1 in the division at a time and the rest all well deserving, hardly the stuff of guys like wilder just waltzing in
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 28 Nov 2024, 15:18
by skanksta
How do I revote ?
Shoulda voted "yes, but shouldn't.."
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 03 Dec 2024, 19:53
by Contendeh
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Nov 2024, 15:01
is that all in the last 40 years? tbf they havent exactly opened the flood gates if those are the only ones. vitali is a bit weak but even he was prob #1 in the division at a time and the rest all well deserving, hardly the stuff of guys like wilder just waltzing in
Yeah. To its credit, they have kept things pretty select.
It will be close for AJ
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 03 Dec 2024, 19:54
by Contendeh
The Hall does have that rule that 3 fighters min get in per year…
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 08 Dec 2024, 10:08
by Thomastearns
Yes.
No other boxer has done more to increase the global popularity of the sport since Pacquiao retired.
AJ deserves the token honour because he has almost single handedly put a lot of money into a lot pockets.
He also didn't do it by swindling the fans either - Mayweather, McGregor, Paul etc.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 08 Dec 2024, 11:50
by gp.
Thomastearns wrote: ↑08 Dec 2024, 10:08
Yes.
No other boxer has done more to increase the global popularity of the sport since Pacquiao retired.
AJ deserves the token honour because he has almost single handedly put a lot of money into a lot pockets.
He also didn't do it by swindling the fans either - Mayweather, McGregor, Paul etc.
Has he? What's his name recognition like outside the UK?
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 08 Dec 2024, 20:53
by Finkel
Well, at Joshua's peak he was one of the faces of Under Armor same time as Steph Curry. You would see large cutouts of Joshua in general sports stores in Japan (in Tokyo anyway). So if he was making inroads in an Asian market, I suspect he was too in the African markets, Americas, and European.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 10 Dec 2024, 20:34
by Lackeos
He may have only participated in 13 world title fights, but he unified 3 titles, defeated a hall of famer, and drew a ton of money. Seems to me like he'd get in.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 11 Dec 2024, 12:35
by zorndeslammes
Vinnie Pazienza got in: the barriers to entry are basically eroded to nothing now. In AJ's case he always had a strong argument as a unified heavyweight champion with a lot of big fights in his career. The number of peers he has who aren't in is basically 0.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 11 Dec 2024, 13:26
by SportsRatings
How could he not be?
What a joke of a Hall of Fame if a clear HW champ doesn't get in.
People here seem to be down on him right now, but seriously, not getting in the HOF?
I can see arguing about Wilder and perhaps concluding, close but no cigar. But to suggest Joshua might be left out is pretty much a slam on Joshua, not a good-faith consideration of who should be in.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 09:33
by Syntax Error
SportsRatings wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 13:26
How could he not be?
What a joke of a Hall of Fame if a clear HW champ doesn't get in.
People here seem to be down on him right now, but seriously, not getting in the HOF?
I can see arguing about Wilder and perhaps concluding, close but no cigar. But to suggest Joshua might be left out is pretty much a slam on Joshua, not a good-faith consideration of who should be in.
Exactly; it shouldn't even be up for debate.
To reiterate, Olympic champion, unified champ with numerous defences and two time champion.
How does such a fighter not get in on that basis?
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 09:52
by zorndeslammes
Syntax Error wrote: ↑13 Dec 2024, 09:33
Exactly; it shouldn't even be up for debate.
To reiterate, Olympic champion, unified champ with numerous defences and two time champion.
How does such a fighter not get in on that basis?
He needs something to define his legacy like a 6th round TKO loss against a guy who called you in as a last minute replacement for his retirement fight.
(in fairness, AJ has some of those components in combination...)
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 04:22
by Evander
His career isn't over yet.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 17 Dec 2024, 09:36
by jamesmcdonnell
IBHOF often includes fighters who were big names in their day, but not ATG's, it wouldn't be that unusual.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 19:25
by Cojimar 1946
SportsRatings wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 13:26
How could he not be?
What a joke of a Hall of Fame if a clear HW champ doesn't get in.
People here seem to be down on him right now, but seriously, not getting in the HOF?
I can see arguing about Wilder and perhaps concluding, close but no cigar. But to suggest Joshua might be left out is pretty much a slam on Joshua, not a good-faith consideration of who should be in.
Because of not fighting and beating his contemporaries
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 19 Dec 2024, 04:51
by joshj909
Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 19:25
SportsRatings wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 13:26
How could he not be?
What a joke of a Hall of Fame if a clear HW champ doesn't get in.
People here seem to be down on him right now, but seriously, not getting in the HOF?
I can see arguing about Wilder and perhaps concluding, close but no cigar. But to suggest Joshua might be left out is pretty much a slam on Joshua, not a good-faith consideration of who should be in.
Because of not fighting and beating his contemporaries
The only one he hasn't faced is Fury. Wilder was always trash and worse than many of the guys that Joshua faced.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 11:20
by Syntax Error
Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 19:25
SportsRatings wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 13:26
How could he not be?
What a joke of a Hall of Fame if a clear HW champ doesn't get in.
People here seem to be down on him right now, but seriously, not getting in the HOF?
I can see arguing about Wilder and perhaps concluding, close but no cigar. But to suggest Joshua might be left out is pretty much a slam on Joshua, not a good-faith consideration of who should be in.
Because of not fighting and beating his contemporaries
Joshua has the best resume in the HW division outside of Usyk.
Fury is a glaring omission, but it wasn't Joshua who disappeared for 3 years to get fat, right when they were the top 2 in division.
There's also Wilder, but I don't think Wilder's management wanted to risk putting him in a unification fight without some sort of big build-up.
Wilder is a cherry picker supreme; remember he only fought Fury in 2018 because he thought Tyson wasn't ready and yes, Tyson wasn't ready, but he was still good enough to expose Wilder.
After that, those two got drawn into a trilogy saga which kept both of them busy.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 20 Dec 2024, 12:19
by joshj909
Syntax Error wrote: ↑20 Dec 2024, 11:20
Cojimar 1946 wrote: ↑18 Dec 2024, 19:25
SportsRatings wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 13:26
How could he not be?
What a joke of a Hall of Fame if a clear HW champ doesn't get in.
People here seem to be down on him right now, but seriously, not getting in the HOF?
I can see arguing about Wilder and perhaps concluding, close but no cigar. But to suggest Joshua might be left out is pretty much a slam on Joshua, not a good-faith consideration of who should be in.
Because of not fighting and beating his contemporaries
Joshua has the best resume in the HW division outside of Usyk.
Fury is a glaring omission, but it wasn't Joshua who disappeared for 3 years to get fat, right when they were the top 2 in division.
There's also Wilder, but I don't think Wilder's management wanted to risk putting him in a unification fight without some sort if big build-up.
Wilder is a cherry picker supreme; remember he only fought Fury in 2018 because he thought Tyson wasn't ready and yes, Tyson wasn't ready, but he was still good enough to expose Wilder.
After that, those two got drawn into a trilogy saga which kept both of them busy.
Agreed. Joshua has a number of names on his record which are superior to Wilder. Tyson was serving a drugs ban and pulled out of a fight that they had both signed to fight.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 25 Dec 2024, 13:44
by Cap
He won one or two of the meaningless belts so he'll almost certainly get in. Doesn't take much these days. Looks bad for the sport if no one does. Joshua outside of UK is not a household name. Ask sports fans to name the top five professional boxers and you'll get blank stares.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 25 Dec 2024, 16:45
by gilgamesh
Cap wrote: ↑25 Dec 2024, 13:44
He won one or two of the meaningless belts so he'll almost certainly get in. Doesn't take much these days. Looks bad for the sport if no one does. Joshua outside of UK is not a household name.
Ask sports fans to name the top five professional boxers and you'll get blank stares.
Worse than that. Many would name drop Jake Paul.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 25 Dec 2024, 17:13
by SeanBrennan
Contendeh wrote: ↑27 Nov 2024, 23:08
Looking at the heavies of the last 40 years who are in:
Tyson
Holy
Bowe
Lewis
Klitschkos
I think Joshua has done enough to join that list.
me too.
Re: Will Anthony Joshua be voted into the IBHOF?
Posted: 25 Dec 2024, 18:20
by margaret thatcher
i lol when people are like ' BOUGHT HE DIDNT FIGHT WILD3RRRR'
no, he fought the very best guy, twice. and a guy who 12-0'd wilder