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Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 12 Dec 2024, 15:15
by Caractacus
Gene Tunney, and he got better !

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 12 Dec 2024, 21:43
by Benny The Kid
Caractacus wrote: 11 Dec 2024, 17:30 Michael Spinks
Yeah this is definitely the winner so far.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 12 Dec 2024, 21:59
by 1768149
Benson Henderson and Urijah Faber

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 00:30
by Expug
Chuck Davey

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 10:00
by orbtastic
Lacy
Sheika
Mayorga
Vargas
Trinidad
Reid

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 10:01
by Flump
Expug wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 00:30Chuck Davey
He took a beating in the Gavilan fight didn't he. I remember having highlights of that fight on VHS when I was a kid.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 10:03
by Flump
Two budding billionaires spring to mind

Adrien Boner & Matthew Ellis

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 10:39
by keithmoonhangover
Flump wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 10:03 Two budding billionaires spring to mind

Adrien Boner & Matthew Ellis
Broner still thinks he's worth billions. He was mad for not signing with Eddie when he had the change.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 12:12
by Flump
keithmoonhangover wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 10:39
Flump wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 10:03 Two budding billionaires spring to mind

Adrien Boner & Matthew Ellis
Broner still thinks he's worth billions. He was mad for not signing with Eddie when he had the change.
Probably does. He's a guy who has made very silly decisions in and out of the ring.

Should have stayed near his natural weight for a start. And he's likely to end up fighting in school halls in tank towns for chump change, getting beaten up by prospects, if he stays out of jail for that long.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 13 Dec 2024, 14:19
by gilgamesh
Kelly Pavlik only had 1 more fight that mattered after losing to Hopkins, and he lost it.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 14 Dec 2024, 01:46
by Nile4000
Hilmer Kenty
John Verderosa

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 16 Dec 2024, 15:54
by nobleart1978
Don Curry

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 16 Dec 2024, 17:32
by Expug
Flump wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 10:01
Expug wrote: 13 Dec 2024, 00:30Chuck Davey
He took a beating in the Gavilan fight didn't he. I remember having highlights of that fight on VHS when I was a kid.
Curious decision by management throwing him in with Keed.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 16 Dec 2024, 23:37
by Beltane
Tim Tszyu is a classic example.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 06:44
by keithmoonhangover
Milt McCrory.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 09:58
by NazNaci1
Orlando Salido (he improved - could have down to some illegal substances, however)
Mickey Ward (a whole lot better)
Juanma Lopez
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Eddie Hopson

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 18 Dec 2024, 16:27
by Bodyshot3
Hamed....that's a dead good shout.
Barrera did something that night.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 23 Dec 2024, 07:43
by Ruthless-RKO
Bernard Hopkins and Juan Manual Marquez

Both of them had the best professional careers they could ask for.

Multiple world titles at different weights.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 23 Dec 2024, 23:12
by Ambling Alp II
Good picks! Some guys got better after a loss.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 24 Dec 2024, 04:29
by Ruthless-RKO
Yeh, so when saying 'never the same', it could mean they completely changed it around.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 25 Dec 2024, 14:34
by Nile4000
keithmoonhangover wrote: 18 Dec 2024, 06:44 Milt McCrory.
I have a feeling some things were happening to Milton before he even won the world title, like his hand problems. :neutral: .

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 26 Dec 2024, 16:36
by margaret thatcher
wlad klit was an offensive juggernaut when younger. double and triple left hooks, big uppercuts, 4-5 punch combos. seek and destroy, explosive fighter.

youd never guess watching him in the last 2/3 of his career - his jack johnson jab and hug stage. i guess it worked for him and prolonged his career.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 27 Dec 2024, 11:31
by BroughtonRulesRefuge
- Henry Armstrong lost his debut inside 3 rounds by KO before recovering for one of the all time great records.

Wlad lost his first fight by TKO when his amateur trainer stopped stopped a fight he was dominating before recovering for the finest heavyweight record recorded that challenged that of Joe Louis. Wlad and Vitali may have been the most significant heavies turning pro with their amateur trainer, https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Fritz_Sdunek.

Fritz has a who's who of notable fighters starting in the late 1990s. Why he ain't in the IBHOF is a stain on boxing.

Dariusz Michalczewski
Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Artur Grigorian
Zsolt Erdei
Juan Carlos Gomez
Ralf Rocchigiani
Michael Loewe
Istvan Kovacs
Akhmed Kotiev
Sebastian Zbik
Thomas Ulrich
Sinan Samil Sam
Alexander Dimitrenko
Muhammad Abdullaev
Alexander Alexeev
Khoren Gevor
Grigory Drozd
Denis Boytsov
Karoly Balzsay
Felix Sturm

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 28 Dec 2024, 01:42
by Expug
Ruby Goldstein. Rolling along until mauled by Ace Hudkins. Stopped four times after that.

Re: Fighters never the same after their first loss

Posted: 18 Jan 2025, 17:58
by Nile4000
Johnny Bumphus
Alex Ramos.