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Frostieballs wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 17:07 Well I got that wrong!!

He can pull out a win when he is up for it. Feel so gutted for him, he really, really wanted that.

Dave did hundreds of rounds for free with AJ and Fury in the name of learning when he was young. Abused really. Aj still says he has the best chin he's ever seen. A proper hard man.

mickey1975 wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 17:31 Dave did hundreds of rounds for free with AJ and Fury in the name of learning when he was young. Abused really. Aj still says he has the best chin he's ever seen. A proper hard man.

Allen and Wach have the best chins I've ever seen in boxing in my opinion.

Allen won the fight in my book

I don't think he was in that good of shape or he would have stopped Fisher when he had the chance or maybe fit but too heavy making him slow..... still won though.

Switch hitter wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 18:29 I don't think he was in that good of shape or he would have stopped Fisher when he had the chance or maybe fit but too heavy making him slow..... still won though.

Depends how you define good shape. Sure a 130lber would of comboed the shit out of someone in that state…. but at 257lb (and he used that weight very effectively so I wouldn’t if given too much up) goin 10 rounds against fisher requires being in pretty good shape.

Refreshing honesty from Fisher Senior.

trash decision, johnny won the first 4 and maybe the 10th if very very generous. everything else allen won clearly, it shoulda been 95-94 allen at minimum, i had it 96-93 giving him the 10th too.

it was an easy fight to score

This is the thing with Allen, the powers-that-be invested something in him, getting him an easily winnable Commonwealth title but he spunked it against the wall and fucked up his time has gone however much he turns the clock back he can't be trusted to be able to do it on a constant basis.

Obviously, he will never see Fisher inside a ring again close shave etc, Fisher will move onto bigger and better things as far as domestic level goes - he'll get his shots at the British and the Commonwealth - that wouldn't be a bad achievement from him.

Fisher is shit. Only scrapes past a shot and average at his peak Dave Allen because of crap judges.

The quicker he loses his 0 the better so he and his annoying dad fornicate off.

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 21:26 This is the thing with Allen, the powers-that-be invested something in him, getting him an easily winnable Commonwealth title but he spunked it against the wall and fucked up his time has gone however much he turns the clock back he can't be trusted to be able to do it on a constant basis.

Obviously, he will never see Fisher inside a ring again close shave etc, Fisher will move onto bigger and better things as far as domestic level goes - he'll get his shots at the British and the Commonwealth - that wouldn't be a bad achievement from him.

Fisher vs Wardley - can't imagine they will want that. Wardley holds Brit/Commonwealth.

Not sure where you can really go with Fisher. They'll milk the "comeback" and sell some tickets but the wheels will come off if he steps up. My gameplan would be a couple of fights to sell tickets, then back in with Allen and hopefully get through it. He will get the bad decision in the worst case scenario. Then it simply has to be a step up and hopefully the Brit/Commonwealth are held by someone other than Wardley, or vacant. Frazer is chinny so he would have to hope he could land something. Theres not much upside with a prospect who needs a robbery to beat Dave Allen

Fray Bentos wrote: ↑21 Dec 2024, 21:26 This is the thing with Allen, the powers-that-be invested something in him, getting him an easily winnable Commonwealth title but he spunked it against the wall and fucked up his time has gone however much he turns the clock back he can't be trusted to be able to do it on a constant basis.

Obviously, he will never see Fisher inside a ring again close shave etc, Fisher will move onto bigger and better things as far as domestic level goes - he'll get his shots at the British and the Commonwealth - that wouldn't be a bad achievement from him.

After that embarrassing performance you might find a few guys lining up for him. Dave Allen doesn't even hit hard, we'll see Fisher get stopped next year.

I’ll hold my hands up, I was wrong. Fair play to Dave Allen.

I didn’t think he’d took it seriously, I think he played everyone with his social media acting like he was at home with the family all the time when he’s clearly put the work in.

I’m just gutted he didn’t get the decision he deserved.

the two robbers

john latham



oliver brien




but to leszek jankowiak

There can be only one ....



Honest judge.

I wanted Allen to win but I genuinely gave him no chance, I knew he was in decent shape, he's been a lot worse but I thought he'd just missed the boat and Fisher would just be too big and strong early and I thought he'd stop Allen before the halfway but Allen was as good as I've seen him on the big stage,, deserved the win , tbh as gutted as he should be, at least his reputation is restored, arguably more important than a win, he won't be short of options

id like to see the scorecards of the muppets that had Allen losing, id like to see where they had Fisher winning anything apart from 1, 2, 3, 4, 10.

it was as easy as anything to score that fight. there was not any close rounds, every round was clear cut.

how how how could the judges get it wrong

There needs to be an investigation into they 2 bent scorecards.

Even Fishers dad was telling Allen he won coming out the ring.

So how can it be that 2 judges are more invested in the A-side fighter than his own father is?

Is it really just down to the culture of staying sweet on the promoters payroll?

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 19:06 There needs to be an investigation into they 2 bent scorecards.

Even Fishers dad was telling Allen he won coming out the ring.

So how can it be that 2 judges are more invested in the A-side fighter than his own father is?

Is it really just down to the culture of staying sweet on the promoters payroll?

They don't even need to be paid off, they just want to get invited back for the next one

have the score cards been released?

very curious what round they gave fisher between 5-9

this was such an easy fight to score, either 95-94 allen or 96-93 allen depending on how you score the 10th. every other round was clear as day to score.

Must have one of them bodies(like Tyson Fury) were his body never looks aesthetically pleasing, bad genetics or something

He was definitely fit enough and prepared enough for the fight

It was one of those fights that was legitimately very close on the cards, but that there was no way Fisher could have won. He lost 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9 very clearly and with the kd it's a one point loss.

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 19:06 There needs to be an investigation into they 2 bent scorecards.

Even Fishers dad was telling Allen he won coming out the ring.

So how can it be that 2 judges are more invested in the A-side fighter than his own father is?

Is it really just down to the culture of staying sweet on the promoters payroll?

Investigation into boxing judging by an impartial regulator would be amazing, the blatant corruption is off the scale. Never going to happen though.

Coco wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 19:08

Ricky wrote: ↑22 Dec 2024, 19:06 There needs to be an investigation into they 2 bent scorecards.

Even Fishers dad was telling Allen he won coming out the ring.

So how can it be that 2 judges are more invested in the A-side fighter than his own father is?

Is it really just down to the culture of staying sweet on the promoters payroll?

They don't even need to be paid off, they just want to get invited back for the next one

this could be the downside of saudi - too many yes men trying to give turki what he wants .

stinks