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Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 08:58
by tigermoth87
Retirement he's gash

Another British over hyped bum

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 09:01
by Boxerbeetle
The Gratest wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 07:11
Boxerbeetle wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 07:08
The Gratest wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 06:35
I'm currently working on a painting of the man himself 🪄
There we are, first episode sorted already then. Make sure you give us a preview of the painting on here first tho :TU:
Still a lot of details to be added...hair, sweat, neck, shoulders...

Bloody awesome work :salut:

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 10:02
by THEBUTCH
That's excellent !

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 12:55
by The Gratest
Cheers BB & Butch :salut:
I'll post it up again once finished.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 14:47
by margaret thatcher
you could title it 'chinese powah'

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 14:51
by gilgamesh
It's honestly stunning that he has a win on his record over Dubois followed by a loss to Chisora. He's probably the only boxer in the World that will have that on his record.

That being said, the fact that he could've even lost to Chisora means that something must've happened. Either a bad injury, or something must've happened that significantly affected Joyce's ability to perform.

But yeah if you can't beat Chisora in 2024. I don't really know what's left for you. You're not even a Regional Champion really if you can't get by your Country's old Warhorse that almost everybody gets by.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 14:57
by margaret thatcher
who is the worst fighter to legitimately beat del?

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 14:58
by si7dog7
Joe is an Olympian now approaching 40 years old.
He’s done well. Very well.
I guess in the rarified world of internet warriors he is a “bum”.
Shame on you for saying that. You know who you are.
Pro 5-6 years too late.
JJJ was a Terminator for a while. Age catches up though.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 15:01
by gilgamesh
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 14:57 who is the worst fighter to legitimately beat del?
Probably Dillian Whyte I guess. I'm sure Whyte would fight Joyce too, I'm not sure what good it would do Joyce though.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 16:27
by joshj909
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 15:01
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 14:57 who is the worst fighter to legitimately beat del?
Probably Dillian Whyte I guess. I'm sure Whyte would fight Joyce too, I'm not sure what good it would do Joyce though.
The Whyte that beat Parker who also beat Chisora?

Other than Helenius, currently it's probably Kabayel but it remains to be seen where his career goes. The next tier of Parker, Pulev and Whyte were all decent opposition in the top 10 or fringes of the top 5. I think Pulev could have a higher skillset but his record is way thinner than Whyte or Parker. I would arguably say the same for Haye if you only consider his heavyweight record.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 18:24
by The Gratest
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 14:47 you could title it 'chinese powah'
Hah, well because he does a bit of painting himself, I thought i'd tag him in it once finished...although he might not appreciate that piece of fine art! :KO:

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 28 Jan 2025, 20:23
by goose 5
I wish he'd retire; and I'm a Joyce fan.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 03:40
by JamesPhilips
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 14:51 It's honestly stunning that he has a win on his record over Dubois followed by a loss to Chisora. He's probably the only boxer in the World that will have that on his record.

That being said, the fact that he could've even lost to Chisora means that something must've happened. Either a bad injury, or something must've happened that significantly affected Joyce's ability to perform.

But yeah if you can't beat Chisora in 2024. I don't really know what's left for you. You're not even a Regional Champion really if you can't get by your Country's old Warhorse that almost everybody gets by.
Something did happen. It’s called getting Zhanged. And twice too :D :D

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 03:40
by JamesPhilips
The Gratest wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 18:24
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 14:47 you could title it 'chinese powah'
Hah, well because he does a bit of painting himself, I thought i'd tag him in it once finished...although he might not appreciate that piece of fine art! :KO:
You’re much better than him. His ‘art’ is pretty basic

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 10:10
by deadpan
Controversial wrote: 27 Jan 2025, 15:05 Can't be easy for him seeing Dubois fighting Parker after he stopped both of them
Indeed. For really good money. That must sting as much as a Zhang left hander. Though he might find a spot on another Saudi bill for good dough against the loser. Particularly if its DDD. Whether that is good for his long term well being is another matter entirely.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 14:18
by stujones
Whilst he should be beating chisora comfortably in 2024… look what Parker did in the remartch…I think people do make it sound like he lost every round vs Chidora…. I edged it to Joyce even with the KD….it was razor tight.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 14:31
by black panther
JamesPhilips wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 03:40
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 14:51 It's honestly stunning that he has a win on his record over Dubois followed by a loss to Chisora. He's probably the only boxer in the World that will have that on his record.

That being said, the fact that he could've even lost to Chisora means that something must've happened. Either a bad injury, or something must've happened that significantly affected Joyce's ability to perform.

But yeah if you can't beat Chisora in 2024. I don't really know what's left for you. You're not even a Regional Champion really if you can't get by your Country's old Warhorse that almost everybody gets by.
Something did happen. It’s called getting Zhanged. And twice too :D :D
I feel like a normal sized human being could well die from a flush shot by Zhang. Joe is a massive lump himself but in a way thats his downfall: he relied on his chin way too much. I noticed when some iron chinned boxers finally get their chin cracked, they are never the same.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 16:28
by SeanBrennan
Ezzard wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 05:56 Joe is still a top fighter. He can build himself up to another big pay day. If he still has the belief and is injury-free I can imagine there are many in the top 10 he can still defeat.

I guess the engine might not be there in the same way. But I would make him favourite against Parker, Dubois, Wardley.

I'd like to see him in with Joshua.
I hope you are right Ezzard, I really like Joe, never rude, strong as an ox, some excellent stoppage wins, and extremely humble.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 16:29
by SeanBrennan
black panther wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 14:31
JamesPhilips wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 03:40
gilgamesh wrote: 28 Jan 2025, 14:51 It's honestly stunning that he has a win on his record over Dubois followed by a loss to Chisora. He's probably the only boxer in the World that will have that on his record.

That being said, the fact that he could've even lost to Chisora means that something must've happened. Either a bad injury, or something must've happened that significantly affected Joyce's ability to perform.

But yeah if you can't beat Chisora in 2024. I don't really know what's left for you. You're not even a Regional Champion really if you can't get by your Country's old Warhorse that almost everybody gets by.
Something did happen. It’s called getting Zhanged. And twice too :D :D
I feel like a normal sized human being could well die from a flush shot by Zhang. Joe is a massive lump himself but in a way thats his downfall: he relied on his chin way too much. I noticed when some iron chinned boxers finally get their chin cracked, they are never the same.
interesting isn't it - do you think it is physical or psychological thing?

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 17:19
by dookus
SeanBrennan wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 16:29
black panther wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 14:31
JamesPhilips wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 03:40

Something did happen. It’s called getting Zhanged. And twice too :D :D
I feel like a normal sized human being could well die from a flush shot by Zhang. Joe is a massive lump himself but in a way thats his downfall: he relied on his chin way too much. I noticed when some iron chinned boxers finally get their chin cracked, they are never the same.
interesting isn't it - do you think it is physical or psychological thing?
I think physical - the force (or cumulation of punishment) required to switch them off is so great that when it happens it has lasting effects

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 19:06
by SeanBrennan
dookus wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 17:19
SeanBrennan wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 16:29
black panther wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 14:31

I feel like a normal sized human being could well die from a flush shot by Zhang. Joe is a massive lump himself but in a way thats his downfall: he relied on his chin way too much. I noticed when some iron chinned boxers finally get their chin cracked, they are never the same.
interesting isn't it - do you think it is physical or psychological thing?
I think physical - the force (or cumulation of punishment) required to switch them off is so great that when it happens it has lasting effects
Thanks Dookus that makes sense.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 19:07
by SeanBrennan
Imagine how great it would be if he came back and really did something it would be such a good thing for the sport.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 19:54
by deadpan
SeanBrennan wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 19:07 Imagine how great it would be if he came back and really did something it would be such a good thing for the sport.
I'd love it. A great bloke and it'd make a fantastic story.

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 20:21
by SeanBrennan
deadpan wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 19:54
SeanBrennan wrote: 29 Jan 2025, 19:07 Imagine how great it would be if he came back and really did something it would be such a good thing for the sport.
I'd love it. A great bloke and it'd make a fantastic story.
Totally agree

Re: Joe Joyce - what next

Posted: 29 Jan 2025, 20:46
by margaret thatcher
kownacki is the same way, had a rock solid chin, but as soon as he got stopped the first time he couldnt take shots nearly as well. now even polish domestic guy ko'd him in 1