Female Boxers dies.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 06:34

The comments about the bloke in the wheelchair were from Riddick, I mistakenly thought it was you, but it was tongue in cheek anyhow.

I agree that women's boxing needs regulating, and that there are too many women fighting who have no business being in the ring.

One thing which would tighten this up, would be for the major sanctioning bodies to get involved, and get rid of these fly by night organisations and promoters who are involved in Women's boxing, some of whom obviously don't give a fornicate about the welfare of those involved.

In time, Women's boxing will improve

With regard to the argument about women being more vulnerable, I've done a bit of reading up on it previously, and I've not been able to find much to support that assertion. The original argument was that women's breast tissue was too vulnerable, and that it could cause cancers due to trauma. What was overlooked though is that in female boxers, due to the training, most of the breast tissue dissapears. The other arguments which were raised were pretty crazy. The BBCofC argued that pre-menstrual women wouldn't be able to control their tempers, or something ridiculous along those lines.

Yes, here it is.

"The board contended at the tribunal that women should not be licensed to box because pre-menstrual tension made them unstable. "

That's pretty fornicating hilarious....!

What is needed is for the amateur sport to really take off, because without amateur grounding women's boxing will not really ever elevate itself above the tough man level.

I spoke with people at the ABA last year, and they were only just getting involved with women's boxing, so it's going to be a while before we see many well schooled women boxers in this country. Eastern Europe are already well ahead of us, and those nations have plenty of women in their amateur programmes, the USA is somewhat behind on this compared to Europe, but ahead of us.

I think women's boxing is set to become an olympic sport by 2012, by which time I will be fornicating 41! Jesus!

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 07 Apr 2005, 06:40

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
"The board contended at the tribunal that women should not be licensed to box because pre-menstrual tension made them unstable. "

That's pretty fornicating hilarious....!

just face it james, with PMT women are never gonna be as stable as guys such as Mike Tyson, Tony Ayala, Johnny Tapia.....

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 07 Apr 2005, 06:46

Yeah, I guess I'm just deluding myself. :(

silkov · Post by **silkov** » 07 Apr 2005, 06:54

jamesmcdonnell wrote:The comments about the bloke in the wheelchair were from Riddick, I mistakenly thought it was you, but it was tongue in cheek anyhow.

I agree that women's boxing needs regulating, and that there are too many women fighting who have no business being in the ring.

One thing which would tighten this up, would be for the major sanctioning bodies to get involved, and get rid of these fly by night organisations and promoters who are involved in Women's boxing, some of whom obviously don't give a fornicate about the welfare of those involved.

In time, Women's boxing will improve

With regard to the argument about women being more vulnerable, I've done a bit of reading up on it previously, and I've not been able to find much to support that assertion. The original argument was that women's breast tissue was too vulnerable, and that it could cause cancers due to trauma. What was overlooked though is that in female boxers, due to the training, most of the breast tissue dissapears. The other arguments which were raised were pretty crazy. The BBCofC argued that pre-menstrual women wouldn't be able to control their tempers, or something ridiculous along those lines.

Yes, here it is.

"The board contended at the tribunal that women should not be licensed to box because pre-menstrual tension made them unstable. "

That's pretty fornicating hilarious....!

What is needed is for the amateur sport to really take off, because without amateur grounding women's boxing will not really ever elevate itself above the tough man level.

I spoke with people at the ABA last year, and they were only just getting involved with women's boxing, so it's going to be a while before we see many well schooled women boxers in this country. Eastern Europe are already well ahead of us, and those nations have plenty of women in their amateur programmes, the USA is somewhat behind on this compared to Europe, but ahead of us.

I think women's boxing is set to become an olympic sport by 2012, by which time I will be fornicating 41! Jesus!

Yes the breast tissue thing is something I remember reading about... the thing is even if the breast tissue is depleated due to the exercise etc that still doesnt mean that there couldn't be problems from being hit there... in fact you could say that the breast area will be more vulnerble with the tissue flattened out and taking solid blows etc. One of the differences with women is that they cannot grow so much muscel as men naturally and so this means that their bodies are far less equipped to deal with the trauma of taking punishment.
There is also the possibility of women being tempted into taking 'vitamins' to get round this. Certain women boxers I've seen make Fatima Whitbread look like a ballet dancer (almost!).
Female boxing certainly needs much tougher regulation, I think many of the 'promoters' of women boxing are aiming at the more seedy sort of punter than the true boxing fan. Women should have to reach a certain standered of fitness and skill before being allowed to box pro or even Amutuer. This seems quite an obvious measure for me but I don't think its being implimented at all yet in the womens side of the game.
I think Eastern Europe will largely take over in boxing in years to come especially in the heavier divisions and if any serious women fighters emerge I wouldn't be surprised to see them come from that part of the world as they are very hungry (literally quite often).
2012! yes, I'll be 43!!!... christ! its depressing when more and more of the boxers/athletes you watch are becoming young enough to be your sons or daughters!...

Shirow · Post by **Shirow** » 08 Apr 2005, 04:38

jamesmcdonnell wrote:
http://people.stthomasu.ca/~belyea/2003/Sambian.htm

Thank the lord you're not a Sambian.

I printed that out yesterday and read it on my journey home from work.

I woke up this morning and my eyebrows still hadn’t come back down…

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 08 Apr 2005, 05:40

It's pretty fornicating shocking isn't it.....the word 'tingu' sends a shiver down my spine.

Kilburn · Post by **Kilburn** » 08 Apr 2005, 11:32

Well anyhow, Anne Wolfe v Laila Ali is a very attractive match. I'm still waiting for it to happen.

Eric the Viking · Post by **Eric the Viking** » 10 Apr 2005, 15:00

jamesmcdonnell wrote:You may 'feel' women's bodies are more vulnerable, but they are made of bone, blood, muscle and sinew, just the same as men's.

Don't forget the Sugar and Spice and All Things Nice, lest I bring my Snips-and-Snails-and-Puppy-Dogs-Tails macho violent wrath down upon you, Jimbo...