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Posted: **17 Jun 2025, 14:46**

Coco wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:28
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.

Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.

Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.

The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
The trick is to play the sympathy card after pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity, they are likely to take it at face value, without investigating to see whether it is true or not.
Say you know you have done wrong and deserve to go to prison.
As things stand he is looking at 15 where he will do 10.
If he had done things right he would have got more like 12, reduced to 8 on the guilty plea.
Behave yourself and you will be out in 5, any time spent on remand will count as double too.
In a nutshell it's the difference between 5 or 10 behind the door.

Absolutely. The obvious other card he could play after perhaps pleading not guilty instead of guilty and getting done might explain the drawn out period of time between the trial and sentencing?

Posted: **17 Jun 2025, 14:51**

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.

Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.

Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.

The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?

Jimmy, kilos of coke = kilos of crack when washed up, it's the most damaging drug there is. I am local and he has been doing it for years.

Posted: **17 Jun 2025, 15:02**

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:46
Coco wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:28
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36

Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.

Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.

Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.

The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
The trick is to play the sympathy card after pleading guilty at the earliest opportunity, they are likely to take it at face value, without investigating to see whether it is true or not.
Say you know you have done wrong and deserve to go to prison.
As things stand he is looking at 15 where he will do 10.
If he had done things right he would have got more like 12, reduced to 8 on the guilty plea.
Behave yourself and you will be out in 5, any time spent on remand will count as double too.
In a nutshell it's the difference between 5 or 10 behind the door.
Absolutely. The obvious other card he could play after perhaps pleading not guilty instead of guilty and getting done might explain the drawn out period of time between the trial and sentencing?

That's probably just backlog, serving 6 months on remand will save 6 months of his life, the only touch he will get.
After pleading not guilty, wasting the courts time and money with a Mickey Mouse story, being a sportsman, working with kids probably means he will get top whack.
Maybe it was his decision, but a lot of time it's the barristers fault, they earn much more for a jury trial, they are laughing all the way to the bank with a not guilty plea. I've seen a few get bad advice when they have no chance of winning

Posted: **17 Jun 2025, 15:13**

SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:51
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.

Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.

Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.

The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
Jimmy, kilos of coke = kilos of crack when washed up, it's the most damaging drug there is. I am local and he has been doing it for years.

True and fair enough. You always seem to be a straight shooter and reliable source so I'll bow to your local knowledge

Posted: **17 Jun 2025, 15:33**

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 12:32 Stefy has been at it for years, Covid has nowt to do with it. He’s been driving that stupid massive car for years and he didn’t pay for it from his Harper commission.
The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?

That usually happens when there are other linked trials going on and they can't reveal the outcome of one in case it prejudices the others.

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 06:55**

Whats the point of having these drugs illegal when everyone is on them every weekend? Including the politicians!!

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 07:10**

Alcohol has got more to answer for than cocaine and weed. Take away drink and watch crime rate fall instantly

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 07:18**

TheLeprechaun wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 06:55 Whats the point of having these drugs illegal when everyone is on them every weekend? Including the politicians!!

literally.

People in all sorts of high pressure jobs smoke weed.

I remember working in sales and the team leader used to go have one with a few of his staff members.

He said he couldn't function in the job without it

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 12:53**

It doesn't stop behind the wall either

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 12:54**

Oiky wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 12:53 It doesn't stop behind the wall either

Spice!!

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 13:48**

Coco wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 12:54
Oiky wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 12:53 It doesn't stop behind the wall either
Spice!!

Horrible s**t

Why anyone would want to take that I dont know, even the screws would much rather the days when people would just smoke a joint, less aggro

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 14:09**

Oiky wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 13:48
Coco wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 12:54
Oiky wrote: ↑18 Jun 2025, 12:53 It doesn't stop behind the wall either
Spice!!
Horrible s**t

Why anyone would want to take that I dont know, even the screws would much rather the days when people would just smoke a joint, less aggro

Can you believe that shite used to be for sale in newsagents

Posted: **18 Jun 2025, 15:30**

Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 15:13
SeanBrennan wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 14:51
Jimmy2025 wrote: ↑17 Jun 2025, 13:36

Has he got previous or are you just speculating? Lots of people have massive cars that aren't selling cocaine. I have no clue as I'm not from the area, maybe he has been at it for years, who knows? and, like I said earlier, I'm not fit to be anybody's judge.

Pleading not guilty has likely scuppered his mitigation but, if I were him and there's no evidence of previous wrongdoing, I'd use the pressures of Covid to try and explain away a daft decision - he's got to try something.

Even though I don't use drugs personally, I don't like seeing people getting long stretches for selling recreational drugs used by people from across the social spectrum. It's not like it's smack.

The thing I am a bit confused about, though, is the previous reporting restrictions and the period on remand being so long after the trial?
Jimmy, kilos of coke = kilos of crack when washed up, it's the most damaging drug there is. I am local and he has been doing it for years.
True and fair enough. You always seem to be a straight shooter and reliable source so I'll bow to your local knowledge

Hi Jimmy, I am not judging anyone, I just know how destructive it is mate, lost close family members to addiction but not under any impression anyone put it in their arm nose or mouth. It's just a big waste of anyone who is involved in that business. There are no happy drug users or dealers, not in the end. Lets hope he comes out and rebuilds a life.

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 11:55**

https://x.com/BoxingNewsED/status/19639 ... 52727?s=19

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 13:18**

Richard Towers also jailed on coercive control. Puts all the bullshit he told Tris Dixon into perspective.

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 13:19**

10 years is ridiculous. 5 years should be the absolute max for any drug related crime.

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 13:38**

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:19 10 years is ridiculous. 5 years should be the absolute max for any drug related crime.

He got off lightly compared to similar cases.

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 13:41**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:38
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:19 10 years is ridiculous. 5 years should be the absolute max for any drug related crime.
He got off lightly compared to similar cases.

I'm surprised he only got a 10

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 14:03**

He wasn’t very subtle, £100k car and a council house. Solid low-key tactics. Could have joined MI5

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 14:04**

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:19 10 years is ridiculous. 5 years should be the absolute max for any drug related crime.

destroying lives and communities for a pound note is about as low as it gets. that's before you think about the violence and fear that keeps the machine going. no sympathy.

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 14:04**

mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:18 Richard Towers also jailed on coercive control. Puts all the bullshit he told Tris Dixon into perspective.

I saw that, his whole angle was reformed criminal.

Posted: **05 Sep 2025, 20:52**

i remember when lucas browne made towers into his own submissive little b!tch

Posted: **06 Sep 2025, 00:24**

Coco wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:41
mickey1975 wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:38
Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑05 Sep 2025, 13:19 10 years is ridiculous. 5 years should be the absolute max for any drug related crime.
He got off lightly compared to similar cases.
I'm surprised he only got a 10

Shouldn't be surprised with boxing and judges verdicts lol

Posted: **06 Sep 2025, 03:24**

My touchstone for whether prison sentences are fair is Stuart Hall.

He got 30 months for sexually assaulting 9 children. Only served 15.

Posted: **06 Sep 2025, 03:36**

^ not the boxer stuart hall, for those unaware of the case

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