BoxRec Forum HW Top 15 ranking - Parker/ Wardley

[Ruthless-RKO]

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[Ruthless-RKO]

The vote is over.

Most votes were for Wardley to move up to 3rd, and not 2nd.. So Parker for 4th place based on votes, so I bumped Kabayel up to 2nd. We ok with that?

Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 24(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

2. Agit Kabayel - 26(18) 0 0 - next fight: 10.01.2025 vs. Damian Knyba - 17(11) 0 0 - (Boxrec's #30)

3. Fabio Wardley - 19(18) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

4 . Joseph Parker - 36(24) 4(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. Daniel Dubois - 22(21) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Filip Hrgovic - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Zhilei Zhang - 25(22) 3(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

8. Efe Ajagba - 20(14) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 21(16) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

10. Frank Sanchez - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Moses Itauma - 13(11) 0 0 - next fight: 24.01.2026 vs. Jermaine Franklin - 24(15) 2(0) 0 - (Boxrec's #39)

12. Derek Chisora - 36(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Richard Torrez Jr. - 14(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Justis Huni - 12(7) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 06.12.2025 vs. Kiki Toa Leutele - 12(8) 2(0) 2 - (inactive, unranked)

15. VACANT
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Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

29.11.2025 - Frazer Clarke - 9(7) 1(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #42) vs. Jeamie Tshikeva - 8(5) 2(2) 1 - (Boxrec's #198)

29.11.2025 - Hughie Fury - 30(17) 3(0) 1 - (Boxrec's #36) vs. Michael Webster - 10(6) 3(2) 0 - (Boxrec's #353)

12.12.2025 - Kubrat Pulev - 32(14) 3(2) 0 - (Boxrec's #16) vs. Murat Gassiev - 32(25) 2(0) 0 - (Boxrec's #7)

19.12.2025 - Anthony Joshua - 28(25) 4(2) 0 - (inactive, unranked) vs. Jake Paul - 12(7) 1(0) 0 - (Boxrec's #75 at CW)

[Ruthless-RKO]

Shall we do Pulev-Gassiev ?

[joshj909]

Shall we do Pulev-Gassiev ?

Given Wallin isn't ranked (and isn't particularly close), it would be a bit weird for Gassiev to be even if it was 2 years ago. You could do Gassiev, Joshua, TKV and Hunter in one group before the end of the year?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Shall we do Pulev-Gassiev ?

Given Wallin isn't ranked (and isn't particularly close), it would be a bit weird for Gassiev to be even if it was 2 years ago. You could do Gassiev, Joshua, TKV and Hunter in one group before the end of the year?

Could we automatically re-enter AJ after Paul fight (as long as he wins), he only dropped out due to inactivity.

[joshj909]

Shall we do Pulev-Gassiev ?

Given Wallin isn't ranked (and isn't particularly close), it would be a bit weird for Gassiev to be even if it was 2 years ago. You could do Gassiev, Joshua, TKV and Hunter in one group before the end of the year?

Could we automatically re-enter AJ after Paul fight (as long as he wins), he only dropped out due to inactivity.

I think given that his inactivity against reputable opponents will still be relevant so it think it would be presumptuous to think he might re-enter at the same ranking he was before. It will be be over 2 years since his win over Wallin which his only relevant win in quite some time now. I think he will likely re-enter but it would need to be in the right place.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Given Wallin isn't ranked (and isn't particularly close), it would be a bit weird for Gassiev to be even if it was 2 years ago. You could do Gassiev, Joshua, TKV and Hunter in one group before the end of the year?

Could we automatically re-enter AJ after Paul fight (as long as he wins), he only dropped out due to inactivity.

I think given that his inactivity against reputable opponents will still be relevant so it think it would be presumptuous to think he might re-enter at the same ranking he was before. It will be be over 2 years since his win over Wallin which his only relevant win in quite some time now. I think he will likely re-enter but it would need to be in the right place.

yh, not top 5 for or anything..

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Current ranking:
Oleksandr Usyk - 24(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

2. Agit Kabayel - 26(18) 0 0 - next fight: 10.01.2025 vs. Damian Knyba - 17(11) 0 0 - (Boxrec's #30)

3. Fabio Wardley - 19(18) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

4 . Joseph Parker - 36(24) 4(2) 0 - next fight: TBA

5. Daniel Dubois - 22(21) 3(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Filip Hrgovic - 19(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Zhilei Zhang - 25(22) 3(1) 1 - next fight: TBA

8. Efe Ajagba - 20(14) 1(0) 1 - next fight: TBA

9. Martin Bakole - 21(16) 2(2) 1 - next fight: TBA

10. Frank Sanchez - 25(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Moses Itauma - 13(11) 0 0 - next fight: 24.01.2026 vs. Jermaine Franklin - 24(15) 2(0) 0 - (Boxrec's #39)

12. Derek Chisora - 36(23) 13(4) 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Richard Torrez Jr. - 14(12) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Justis Huni - 12(7) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. VACANT

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Upcoming Heavyweight Fights

31.01.2026 - Jarrell Miller - 26(22) 1(1) 2 - (inactive, unranked) vs. Kingsley Ibeh - 16(14) 2(1) 1 - (Boxrec's #46)

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[tiny_acres]

We have one vacant spot and 3 fighters that will be a year of no fights.
That will make 4 vacant spots in another 6 weeks.

The division is a huge waste of time anymore

Chisora Feb 8th
Sanchez Feb 22nd
Zhang Feb 22nd
That will make 12 month inactive

[Ruthless-RKO]

Shocking.

Not even fighting once a year. A guy every 18 months

[joshj909]

We have one vacant spot and 3 fighters that will be a year of no fights.
That will make 4 vacant spots in another 6 weeks.

The division is a huge waste of time anymore

Chisora Feb 8th
Sanchez Feb 22nd
Zhang Feb 22nd
That will make 12 month inactive

That would leave:
1. Usyk
2. kabayel
3. Wardley
4. Parker
5. Dubois
6. Hrgovic
7. Ajagba
8. Bakole
9. Itauma
10. Torrez
11. Huni
12. VACANT
13. VACANT
14. VACANT
15. VACANT

Who else would we vote in for those vacant spots? Wed be scraping the barrell

[tiny_acres]

Shocking.

Not even fighting once a year. A guy every 18 months

Have we had that many vacancies since we started the ratings?

[tiny_acres]

We have one vacant spot and 3 fighters that will be a year of no fights.
That will make 4 vacant spots in another 6 weeks.

The division is a huge waste of time anymore

Chisora Feb 8th
Sanchez Feb 22nd
Zhang Feb 22nd
That will make 12 month inactive

That would leave:
1. Usyk
2. kabayel
3. Wardley
4. Parker
5. Dubois
6. Hrgovic
7. Ajagba
8. Bakole
9. Itauma
10. Torrez
11. Huni
12. VACANT
13. VACANT
14. VACANT
15. VACANT

Who else would we vote in for those vacant spots? Wed be scraping the barrell

No idea who would fill the spots. The next vacancies are in May and at the rate we are going we might add more

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think Dag, who used to do the rankings always ending up filling any spots with anyone.

[joshj909]

I think Dag, who used to do the rankings always ending up filling any spots with anyone.

I'm pretty sure we had a few votes for the vacant spots. Realistically, we'd have to give 10 options of active heavyweights and most votes go in. The difficulty will be finding 10 active heavyweights that are somewhat worthy. Vianello, Gassiev, Makhmudov, Okolie, Riakporhe, Anderson, Jalolov, Joyce, Xhoxhaj, Pero, Wallin, Miller. I think most of those would be the names but it's tough trying to say which of them has done the most over the past few years.

[Ruthless-RKO]

No need to create a new one is there?

[joshj909]

No need to create a new one is there?

I'd be surprised if there's any movement.

The Itauma and Miller fights might be the only scheduled ones that people change their votes on but even then it could be unlikely. The boxers dropped due to inactivity being replaced in a couple of months will be a way more significant vote.

[Perkin Warbeck]

Efe Ajagba is fighting Charles Martin on February 14, and there's a possibility of Sanchez-Torrez on February 21st.

Ajagba is no longer with Top Rank, he's with Zuffa Boxing, as is Charles Martin.

[Finkel]

I think Dag, who used to do the rankings always ending up filling any spots with anyone.

I'm pretty sure we had a few votes for the vacant spots. Realistically, we'd have to give 10 options of active heavyweights and most votes go in. The difficulty will be finding 10 active heavyweights that are somewhat worthy. Vianello, Gassiev, Makhmudov, Okolie, Riakporhe, Anderson, Jalolov, Joyce, Xhoxhaj, Pero, Wallin, Miller. I think most of those would be the names but it's tough trying to say which of them has done the most over the past few years.

Maybe we could just vote to fill the vacant #15 spot for now.

I think Gassiev, Okolie, Vianello, and Makhmudov have all been active last year and picked up some wins on the fringe.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Efe Ajagba is fighting Charles Martin on February 14, and there's a possibility of Sanchez-Torrez on February 21st.

Ajagba is no longer with Top Rank, he's with Zuffa Boxing, as is Charles Martin.

IBF have rescheduled purse bids for Sanchez-Torrez. They’re getting tireless. Just let it go to bids I say

[Perkin Warbeck]

IBF have rescheduled purse bids for Sanchez-Torrez. They’re getting tireless. Just let it go to bids I say

Yes, this has gone on for too long. Top Rank having no TV contract may have something to do with the delays.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Gotten lazy with this. Needs an update.

Shall we do Efe-Martin?

[tiny_acres]

Gotten lazy with this. Needs an update.

Shall we do Efe-Martin?

Yes! There is very little activity in the division and numerous fighters are ready to be moved out of the ratings.

[joshj909]

Gotten lazy with this. Needs an update.

Shall we do Efe-Martin?

Yes! There is very little activity in the division and numerous fighters are ready to be moved out of the ratings.

I think that's more of the problem. We will need to fill the vacant spots (two including Zhang) more than needing to move Efe much. Can't see Efe moving more than one place up once all the inactive guys are removed but we could vote on that as well. I suppose Fury can come back in or do we wait until after he's fought Makhmudov but even then, he hasn't had a win over a boxer in over 3 years?