Oddest Genuine fights.

[stujones]

George Forrman defended his lineal world championship against some odd opponents.

Most oddly Crawford Grimsley in Japan of all places.

With HIV positive Tommy Morrison on the undercard!

Tommy Morrison comeback would be another call.

[Jaguar]

Roberto Duran v Dave Radford.

I don't recall any oddities on that one. What was off about it?

Plasterer and part-time journeyman from West Yorkshire pit village, boxes in leisure centres and town halls in Wakefield and Barnsley, fights boxing superstar. In South Africa.

Must be one of the most random fights I can remember.

[bmw hector]

Howard Clarke getting a shot at the IBF light middle title against Fernando Vargas on the Lewis v Holyfield undercard.

[Controversial]

So looking for a proper fight in which both guys are treating it as such.

Journeyman Tim Tomashek (35-10) has to be one of the most bizarre and it was a world title shot too. Tommy Morrison (37-1) was meant to be defending his WBO HW world title against Mike Williams (21-3). Tomashek has been asked to potentially be a last minute replacement as Williams wasn't turning up to the press conferences. They were getting nervous but no one really expected Williams to pull out a world title shot but he refused to leave his dressing room. Tomashek was in the crowd watching the undercard fights so was pulled out the crowd to step in, he had been eating hotdogs and drinking beers thinking he wouldn't be needed. Tomashek retired on the stool at the end of the 4th round. How the WBO sanctioned that fight I do not know.

[JamesPhilips]

So looking for a proper fight in which both guys are treating it as such.

Journeyman Tim Tomashek (35-10) has to be one of the most bizarre and it was a world title shot too. Tommy Morrison (37-1) was meant to be defending his WBO HW world title against Mike Williams (21-3). Tomashek has been asked to potentially be a last minute replacement as Williams wasn't turning up to the press conferences. They were getting nervous but no one really expected Williams to pull out a world title shot but he refused to leave his dressing room. Tomashek was in the crowd watching the undercard fights so was pulled out the crowd to step in, he had been eating hotdogs and drinking beers thinking he wouldn't be needed. Tomashek retired on the stool at the end of the 4th round. How the WBO sanctioned that fight I do not know.

Good choice. Tomashek never beat anyone of note and 5 of his last 6 opponents had never won a fight.

https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/4239

[keithmoonhangover]

Some great shouts there James.

Whilst we can pretty much question his conditioning in any of his post 35 years of age fights - Joe Bugner vs Scott Welch was a strange one also.

My first thought was actually Bugner vs Bonecrusher Smith, as they were both about 50 years old fighting for a version of the world title (ok, a very crap version) and ended bizarrely with Smith dislocating his shoulder in the first round. Don’t think I’ll ever forget the way his corner were quickly trying to push it back in, looked very amateurish and painful

Smith had an injury pre fight, gave it a quick go and then that was that.

[keithmoonhangover]

Jerome Pampellone beat Plaisakda Boonmalert last year.

Boonmalert made his debut in the 1980's, fought John Davison in 1991 and was 53 when he fought Pampellone.

Plus..... he started at Super-Bantam and ended up at light heavyweight.

[keithmoonhangover]

The Fenech-Nelson rematch was a bit odd. Rumours of agreement pre-fight etc.

[jonp]

Jimmy Wilde when 73.0.1 and 76.0.1 respectively going 15 rounds twice in the space of a month with Kid nutter who was 3.1.1 and 4.3.1 I always found a bit odd.
The year before that he ten rounds twice with Dick Jenkins who was 0.2.1 and 0.3.2 hed also gone 6 rounds with Jenkins in his debut and second fight as well. Wilde was around 45.0 at the time.

[Controversial]

Jimmy Wilde when 73.0.1 and 76.0.1 respectively going 15 rounds twice in the space of a month with Kid nutter who was 3.1.1 and 4.3.1 I always found a bit odd.
The year before that he ten rounds twice with Dick Jenkins who was 0.2.1 and 0.3.2 hed also gone 6 rounds with Jenkins in his debut and second fight as well. Wilde was around 45.0 at the time.

Something to bear in mind with old records is they are often incomplete, especially in those years. Some fighters on boxrec only have a few listed when in fact they had many fights, sometimes even hundreds.

I posted years ago about a fighter named Joe Gollob who boxed in the 1930s-1940s and at that time he only had 3 fights recorded on boxrec whereas a newspaper article listed his record as 138-11. He was said was the most travelled athlete in Canada after boxing in numerous countries around the world. It was even reported that he was a top contender for the Empire Title. Even now after some updates boxrec still only shows 14 fights for him.


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[JamesPhilips]

Also - any Mickey Rourke fight…..

[Syntax Error]

Hopkins V Jones Jr 2.

Took place 17 years after the original.

Jones was washed up by then, although, somewhat oddly, Hopkins was still a world class fighter at about 45 years old and older than Jones.

It was a horrible fight; Hopkins made it that way.

Yes, good shout. Trinidad vs Jones JNR another weird one.

Absolutely, they were both well past their bests and weren't even in the same weight class during their respective heyday.

[Controversial]

Maccarinelli vs RJJ in Moscow another odd one.

[Sweet Dick Willie]

Haye /Valuev

Valuev is an odd man but what was odd in this match particularly? I haven't seen it.

[paultom]

Haye /Valuev

Valuev is an odd man but what was odd in this match particularly? I haven't seen it.

maybe the 7 stone weight difference ?

[Sweet Dick Willie]

Haye /Valuev

Valuev is an odd man but what was odd in this match particularly? I haven't seen it.

maybe the 7 stone weight difference ?

Still the same weight class

[paultom]

Valuev is an odd man but what was odd in this match particularly? I haven't seen it.

maybe the 7 stone weight difference ?

Still the same weight class

other than that then I have no idea

[jonp]

Jimmy Wilde when 73.0.1 and 76.0.1 respectively going 15 rounds twice in the space of a month with Kid nutter who was 3.1.1 and 4.3.1 I always found a bit odd.
The year before that he ten rounds twice with Dick Jenkins who was 0.2.1 and 0.3.2 hed also gone 6 rounds with Jenkins in his debut and second fight as well. Wilde was around 45.0 at the time.

Something to bear in mind with old records is they are often incomplete, especially in those years. Some fighters on boxrec only have a few listed when in fact they had many fights, sometimes even hundreds.

I posted years ago about a fighter named Joe Gollob who boxed in the 1930s-1940s and at that time he only had 3 fights recorded on boxrec whereas a newspaper article listed his record as 138-11. He was said was the most travelled athlete in Canada after boxing in numerous countries around the world. It was even reported that he was a top contender for the Empire Title. Even now after some updates boxrec still only shows 14 fights for him.


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This is true but if you look on Miles Templetons website hes pretty good at completing them and if not hes damn close. I think he had Nutter at a few more fights but even so a virtual novice with a 50 50 record going the championship distance with with what some think is a top ten all time great is a strange one.

[jonp]

Hold on.... Tony Galento against a dead octopus. I win.

[Controversial]

Jimmy Wilde when 73.0.1 and 76.0.1 respectively going 15 rounds twice in the space of a month with Kid nutter who was 3.1.1 and 4.3.1 I always found a bit odd.
The year before that he ten rounds twice with Dick Jenkins who was 0.2.1 and 0.3.2 hed also gone 6 rounds with Jenkins in his debut and second fight as well. Wilde was around 45.0 at the time.

Something to bear in mind with old records is they are often incomplete, especially in those years. Some fighters on boxrec only have a few listed when in fact they had many fights, sometimes even hundreds.

I posted years ago about a fighter named Joe Gollob who boxed in the 1930s-1940s and at that time he only had 3 fights recorded on boxrec whereas a newspaper article listed his record as 138-11. He was said was the most travelled athlete in Canada after boxing in numerous countries around the world. It was even reported that he was a top contender for the Empire Title. Even now after some updates boxrec still only shows 14 fights for him.


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This is true but if you look on Miles Templetons website hes pretty good at completing them and if not hes damn close. I think he had Nutter at a few more fights but even so a virtual novice with a 50 50 record going the championship distance with with what some think is a top ten all time great is a strange one.

I couldn't even see Kid Nutter on Miles site, is he under another name? On boxrec his name is also shown as Albert Victor Nutter (from Lancashire) boxed 1913-16. Interestingly I did find a post on Facebook where someone said their relative was a boxer called Harry "The Kid" Nutter (from Lancashire) who died in the Battle of the Somme (1916) so sounds like it's the same fighter albeit with a different name than boxrec has it.

Arthur Nutter from Bradford boxed between 1935 and 1947 40 professional contests
Bill Nutter from DunLaoghaire boxed during 1923 1 professional contest
Billy Nutter from Darwen boxed between 1921 and 1932 27 professional contests
Billy Nutter from Newcastle boxed between 1920 and 1922 10 professional contests
Ginger Nutter from Blackburn boxed between 1911 and 1921 38 professional contests
Tom Nutter from Silksworth boxed between 1939 and 1949 10 professional contests

Miles any ideas or other info on Jimmy Wilde opponent Kid Nutter?

[jonp]

Something to bear in mind with old records is they are often incomplete, especially in those years. Some fighters on boxrec only have a few listed when in fact they had many fights, sometimes even hundreds.

I posted years ago about a fighter named Joe Gollob who boxed in the 1930s-1940s and at that time he only had 3 fights recorded on boxrec whereas a newspaper article listed his record as 138-11. He was said was the most travelled athlete in Canada after boxing in numerous countries around the world. It was even reported that he was a top contender for the Empire Title. Even now after some updates boxrec still only shows 14 fights for him.


.

This is true but if you look on Miles Templetons website hes pretty good at completing them and if not hes damn close. I think he had Nutter at a few more fights but even so a virtual novice with a 50 50 record going the championship distance with with what some think is a top ten all time great is a strange one.

I couldn't even see Kid Nutter on Miles site, is he under another name? On boxrec his name is also shown as Albert Victor Nutter (from Lancashire) boxed 1913-16. Interestingly I did find a post on Facebook where someone said their relative was a boxer called Harry "The Kid" Nutter (from Lancashire) who died in the Battle of the Somme (1916) so sounds like it's the same fighter albeit with a different name than boxrec has it.

Arthur Nutter from Bradford boxed between 1935 and 1947 40 professional contests
Bill Nutter from DunLaoghaire boxed during 1923 1 professional contest
Billy Nutter from Darwen boxed between 1921 and 1932 27 professional contests
Billy Nutter from Newcastle boxed between 1920 and 1922 10 professional contests
Ginger Nutter from Blackburn boxed between 1911 and 1921 38 professional contests
Tom Nutter from Silksworth boxed between 1939 and 1949 10 professional contests

Miles any ideas or other info on Jimmy Wilde opponent Kid Nutter?

Interesting I checked out so many guys who fought Wilde on Miles site I went down a rabbit hole lol. If not Miles can you find some stuff out on this guy as his name generates interest plus his two distance fights with an all time great.

[MPW]

Acelino Freitas v Barry Jones in Doncaster.
Fernando Vargas v Howard Clark at Madison Square Gardens.

Didn’t Freitas comeback also against a fellow Brazilian at Middkeweight and won.

Yeah, he did way back in 2012. Freitas, who was about 35 at the time, fought Michael Oliveira, who was 16-0 and talking a lot of disrespectful smack about the former world champ. Freitas dropped him twice and stopped him in the ninth round.

[joshj909]

Paul Gallen Vs Sonny Bill Williams?

It's probably the only "freakshow" fight that might not actually be a complete freakshow fight. Both former rugby league players that took the boxing game somewhat seriously in their career and in retirement. Although they both had the money grab fights against opponents like Mark Hunt or other sports stars, they both also beat veterans such as Lucas Browne, Frans Botha, Chauncey Welliver. Gallen also fought legit pros in Terzievski and Huni in their prime, despite losing both.

[keithmoonhangover]

Joe Louis against Johnny Davis. Davis' record was 3-3 going into the fight.

[joshj909]

45 year old George Foreman beating 26 year old Michael Moorer for the belt which is a 19 year age difference and 20 years after his last reign as champ.

Although he was a 3-1 underdog in that fight, Foreman was a 6/1 favourite over Schultz who was 20 years younger than his 46 years. I'm not sure if the 47 year older was favourite over Crawford Grimsley or the 48 year old was favourite over Lou Savarese who were both over 15 years younger than him.